Thank you for the Astro changes coming in dawntrail!

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

Why would it be 3-5% if you have it less each minute now?

I think it would make more sense if it was around 10% or lasted longer, Unless they want to up the numbers for astro... which I don't really want astro to be more selfish.

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Cause I don't trust them to do right by the class with them needing a re work every expansion

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curative card might as well not even exist since it will be a low potency 300-400 heal

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The cards had no healing effect on the healer. I think it will be a mana reg (45 reg.) or healing boost of 5-10%.

The SCH will probably say Yammi for Critlo.

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Originally Posted by RulerOfPotaoes

OP posted some valid personal opinions and beliefs about the new astro and as always I see that the official FF14 forum is still full of elitist who believe their opinions are better than anyones..

Its sadly a trend i keep seeing regardless of which sub forum. Anyone who says anything remotely positive about the game is shot down immediately by a bunch of "well actually" sayers.

It doesnt matter what changes SE does to Astro or any healer. People are never happy.

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Well, I think the problem is that, what Yoshi-P has been emphasizing was: players’ feedback is sooooooooo important that may change(or “destroy”, from some angles) a job completely, and it happened so many times. And even though there might nearly be a 50-50 situation, it seems that they are following some kind of “majority rule” that the minority could only lay back and say goodbye to their main job — I couldn’t see the balance of the 2 perspectives and there’ll be only 1 (or none) of the both would win.

Then I’m curious about this: How was the decision made? What are the rationales behind this decision?

So it comes to here: Players can only try and try, to voice their feedback again and again, praying for the team’s listening. Yes, you may think that they’ll still look unhappy and keep complaining no matter how the things are changed. Sadly, it’s not an end but a means. It has been the only way for them to express their thoughts. See what has been happening on AST and you may get what I mean.

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Originally Posted by LynxDubh

As I stated in my first post responding to you, I'm not passing judgement or forming opinions until I see the full kit. I think that should have been enough of a cue for you to pick up that I'm not interested in debating the quality of DT AST as we know of it now. I think it's pointless wheel spinning atm. If the kit is subpar, which would not surprise me, I will make my opinion known at that point.

What I take issue with is your conduct throughout the thread. You've done nothing but insult, berate, and talk down to those who don't mimic your stance. Forgive me for wanting to have a bit of fun taking some jabs at someone such as yourself.

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You can surely form your opinions after you see the full kit, but here comes my concern: why can’t we get the details way after the Live Letter? What’s the meaning of these 2 weeks waiting for the details from the media tour? AST has been totally changed and we can’t even get the job details immediately.

If players could only leave their feedback after the implementation of Dawntrail update, we might have to wait for at least 4 months till the next patch update, and then, learn how to play this lucky job one more time.

Just a quick brainstorm if possible. Next time, if there will be a rework for any jobs, it might be better to release ALL details ASAP after the Live Letter for job changes.

Afterall, my real concern now is not “how a job will be adjusted (or “destroyed”, again)” anymore, but “what is the team’s vision regarding the job”. We are players but not testers for a released patch. Tho I truly appreciate their respect towards players’ feedback, I feel weird if a job’s construction would be largely affected by these.

At last, one more declaration. I’ll be very happy if there’s any trial for job adjustment before the Patch is released, maybe a beta test program like practicing in the Stone, Sky, Sea instant would be a good attempt?

tbh at this rate all i wanted is a proper promise for 8.0

7.x is already hopeless for me.

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Originally Posted by Olivia_G

You can surely form your opinions after you see the full kit, but here comes my concern: why can’t we get the details way after the Live Letter? What’s the meaning of these 2 weeks waiting for the details from the media tour? AST has been totally changed and we can’t even get the job details immediately.

If players could only leave their feedback after the implementation of Dawntrail update, we might have to wait for at least 4 months till the next patch update, and then, learn how to play this lucky job one more time.

Just a quick brainstorm if possible. Next time, if there will be a rework for any jobs, it might be better to release ALL details ASAP after the Live Letter for job changes.

Afterall, my real concern now is not “how a job will be adjusted (or “destroyed”, again)” anymore, but “what is the team’s vision regarding the job”. We are players but not testers for a released patch. Tho I truly appreciate their respect towards players’ feedback, I feel weird if a job’s construction would be largely affected by these.

At last, one more declaration. I’ll be very happy if there’s any trial for job adjustment before the Patch is released, maybe a beta test program like practicing in the Stone, Sky, Sea instant would be a good attempt?

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I would very much love if we got the preliminary details right after the live letter. Maybe a public test would work well. Maybe something akin to the Proto Ultima Weapon fight as a public released test with the new class changes to gain early feedback.

I breathed a sigh of relief when DNC did not get any major changes in the live letter for now. Which is not a good sign of the expectations of an expansion launch.

But, I fully expect for AST to be butchered like every expansion past SB has done. I'm giving the media tour the chance to prove me wrong. At least SGE got the stuff I wanted for it to a degree.

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Originally Posted by KanataNanaya

tbh at this rate all i wanted is a proper promise for 8.0

7.x is already hopeless for me.

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Despite the fact that 7.X will exist for 2.5 years, but we aren’t allowed to make big job changes mid patch because reasons.

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Originally Posted by ty_taurus

Despite the fact that 7.X will exist for 2.5 years, but we aren’t allowed to make big job changes mid patch because reasons.

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Well that's not true, they completely gutted PLD right after they made it the best playing tank in 6.0. I'm sure there will be another job that doesn't work perfectly with the 2 minute meta they'll panic convert into a bundle of noninteractive 30s/60s/120s cooldowns.

Are we expecting to see the additional info at the end of this month?

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Originally Posted by Aelin_Ashryver

Are we expecting to see the additional info at the end of this month?

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Other then the patch notes before launch, no.