Dark Knight: 5.0x Feedback Thread

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Living Shadow will sometimes use deleted fan favourite animations like Scourge, just to mess with people.

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Just make it spam the Scourge animation full time, since it's a glorified DoT already.

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Originally Posted by RadicalPesto

Yes, in fact, "balance" doesn't matter at all in content below extreme difficulty.

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Bull. . .

You can't ignore 95% of the game. That would be extremely stupid.

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Originally Posted by Satarn

Currently all tank jobs are extremely simple in their DPS rotations and very similar in mitigation. We could afford to make just one of them more demanding for people who enjoy something different.

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If you want complex DPS rotations, play a DPS. At least, that's what everyone seemed to be screaming at the healers when we provided push back on our 2 button dps rotations.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

If you want complex DPS rotations, play a DPS. At least, that's what everyone seemed to be screaming at the healers when we provided push back on our 2 button dps rotations.

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Yeah, I'm sure taking your salt with a couple of forum princesses out on tanks is gonna make SE fix your healers. You go fight that good fight. /s
Also if the plural "you" provided push back, then clearly it wasn't "everyone" screaming against it. In fact I keep seeing plenty of people both here and on reddit being(understandably) displeased with the state of the healer role.

Actually it's not just tanks and healers - the one DPS I liked to play in SB(MNK) got dumbed down just as much as tanks and sounds like NIN's gonna follow suit, so that's not even an option lul. That's disregarding the fact that I enjoy tanking for what the role itself is: planning mitigation, positioning and making fights as comfy for everyone else as possible. I just also happen to like having something more on top of that.

Perhaps instead of getting snarky with each other, we could all show SE that there's still audience for more complex jobs in this game and thus leaving a couple of them more complicated would be a more widely appealing design, regardless of role.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

You can't ignore 95% of the game. That would be extremely stupid.

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That's not ignoring. Balance is only relevant so that no job is excluded in party setup. For 95% of the game, people don't care about party setup.

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Originally Posted by Reynhart

That's not ignoring. Balance is only relevant so that no job is excluded in party setup. For 95% of the game, people don't care about party setup.

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Tell that to all the ninjas getting kicked out of roulettes now just for existing. :P

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Originally Posted by Absimiliard

Tell that to all the ninjas getting kicked out of roulettes now just for existing. :P

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I'm sure they're getting kicked for reasons other than being ninjas.

I want living shadow to actually look like my character.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Bull. . .

You can't ignore 95% of the game. That would be extremely stupid.

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When jobs are all balanced around the hardest content the game has to offer, they will be capable of running any other content. 95% of the game can be ignored for balancing because of this, when a job is viable for savage and ultimate it will have no problems going through much easier content. You will never have a job that does well in the most challenging stuff but struggles to make it through dungeons, if the DPS, healing and tanking requirements are met in savage it's going to be more than sufficient for everything else.

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Originally Posted by Jandor

Hmm, some other minor adjustments I'd make:

Abyssal Drain holds 2 charges, Quietus reduces the cooldown by 5s for every target hit.

Delirium reduces MP costs by 100%, instead of removing Blood costs. For a brief window filled with that vintage DA spam feel, but with Edge/Flood instead of DA.

Living Shadow will sometimes use deleted fan favourite animations like Scourge, just to mess with people.

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I like a lot of these idea's. Though I have to ask. Would Delirium removing mp cost not be an dps lost? Maybe if it did crit, direct hit bonus it would be an upgrade or if they made it like a 20 seconds buff.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

Bull. . .

You can't ignore 95% of the game. That would be extremely stupid.

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Yes they honestly show not forget the majority of the playable. If they keep this up. Alot of of people are going jump ship to go back to classic WoW. Which will greatly hurt the game.

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Originally Posted by Deceptus

If you want complex DPS rotations, play a DPS. At least, that's what everyone seemed to be screaming at the healers when we provided push back on our 2 button dps rotations.

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That is one of the dumbest arguments people can make. If a large part of players switch from tanks and healers because they are no fun. Then we will have this massive imbalance in the game. If dps are bitching now that their que times are super long. Just wait tell they find that their wait times are in a couple of hours.