SE Please add jump and swiming

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Originally Posted by Preypacer

Oh the sweet, sweet irony.

I'm going to remember this post, Shipp.

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Please do, since I know exactly which post of mine you're referring to and if you'd actually think about it, you'd realize there's nothing ironic about it at all.

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Originally Posted by Shipp

You're stubborn and obstinate

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I think the same shoe will fit another groups foot as well.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Whats the point of the jump feature if it has no use? many people who want jump want it for some strange tactical purposes.

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the point of it is options. people want options in the game they play. if you do not like one option then you can chose another. but not having option is just asinine. and to be honest its selfish to limit options just because you do not like it.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

I think the same shoe will fit another groups foot as well.

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All you're doing is trolling at this point. It's been explained how jump can be beneficial and why people want it. You respond with being too lazy to use jump in a boss battle. Adding jump takes nothing away from you, whatsoever. It does add to the enjoyment of a lot of other people though.

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Originally Posted by Onidemon

You think BMW will come up with a new car, with no AC, no leather interior, no cruise control, no abs, no cup holders, no electric windows and doors but be like well our car looks prettier and realistically think people will come to them? No, you offer standard feature first and then more.

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Originally Posted by irongripz

not having those makes that car a unique piece of crap that i wouldn't buy lol

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Exactly why we need jumping in the foundation of FFXIV v2.0. It is not what will makes FFXIV a success, but it will expand the basics of FFXIV to build unique features on to make it a success.

Success is rarely built from scratch, you truly something new to do that. Unfortunately, MMORPGs have been out for far too long to be called "new". That is why FFXIV needs the base foundation of every other MMO out there, so it can compete with the standards and built it's unique contents that will bring it above the ground. How can you stand above the crowd (other MMOs) without a good foundation? The only thing that could achieve is fall down, which is what happened with FFXIV 1.0 at launch. Square Enix would be really stupid to make the same mistake twice and I know they won't, they have spent 1 year on building the new base already and plan to do so for another year. Then, and only then, will FFXIV 2.0 come with out a good base which will allow to fully experience the creativity of the devs and their unique contents.

That is why, once again, FFXIV 2.0 needs jumping and swimming.

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Originally Posted by Zaireeka2025

"Immersion is subjective" - Your answer for everything... that tireless response is subjective.

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So what one person personally find immersion is also what another find? I guess all humans like and dislike the same things? We're all the same people, right?

I find programming fun, do you? I also find spending 3 days with a lack of sleep for the final push on a project the most exhilarating, do you?

I personally find eastern fantasies a lot more in depth than I do western, with the exception of Lord of the Rings, I feel more immersed in Chinese, Norse and Japanese fantasy and mythology than I do in western, you feel the same, yes? Or do you happen to find fantasies like Lord of the Rings more immersive than the events of Ragnarok or Sun Wukong (Journey to the West)?

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Originally Posted by Shipp

All you're doing is trolling at this point. It's been explained how jump can be beneficial and why people want it.

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I explained why I dislike it and why I feel it's a bad idea. I'm not trolling I'm just stating my opinion it's not about being lazy it's about how I feel the game would work best.

I don't really care what the "Majority" thinks what they actually think is actually rather up in the air despite what your small following of jumpers think. Neither of us have any real idea of what the majority of players actually want.

I don't pretend to know what everyone wants or what is best for everyone, I just state what I think is fun and some people agree with me, some don't. I'm not saying your idea is stupid I just saying I'd prefer it not to be a mechanic. I'd rather have strategic positioning rather than strategic jumps. How about both? whatever I'd still prefer no jumping I think it looks silly to avoid a uber boss move by hopping over it.

All I can do is tell people what my opinion is and tell them why.

You tell me jumping can be added
-I say I'd rather not
You ask why
-I say because it has no real purpose
You tell me how it could have purpose
-I say why I dislike that purpose
You say it doesn't have to have a prupose
-I say if it's going to be added it should at least have a purpose, but I'd still prefer it not be added for asthetic values.

You accuse me of trolling~

Yay.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

So because I don't want to jump I should be exempt from a majority of the game? From exploration? Boss fights?

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you are not exempt, you chose not to be involved. i could use same analogy because i don't want to pay for airship ride i should be exempt from exploring? boss fights that could be on air ships? see my point? just because i got a fear of heights does not mean the whole world should stay on the ground with me.

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Originally Posted by irongripz

you are not exempt, you chose not to be involved. i could use same analogy because i don't want to pay for airship ride i should be exempt from exploring? boss fights that could be on air ships? see my point? just because i got a fear of heights does not mean the whole world should stay on the ground with me.

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Using the lame excuse to justify a idea as "Well you don't have to use it" is the most lazy defense I've ever seen.

Why would someone just lay down and accept that half the game is cut off to them because of a silly mechanic? Most rational people would use it wether they wanted too or not, but somehow it's taboo to ask that it not be implemented becuase you don't like it.

People are allowed to ask for anything they want, but not allowed to ask to not have something...awesome.

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Originally Posted by Jynx

Using the lame excuse to justify a idea as "Well you don't have to use it" is the most lazy defense I've ever seen.

Why would someone just lay down and accept that half the game is cut off to them because of a silly mechanic? Most rational people would use it wether they wanted too or not, but somehow it's taboo to ask that it not be implemented becuase you don't like it.

People are allowed to ask for anything they want, but not allowed to ask to not have something...awesome.

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Except like they stated, you aren't cut off from it. You're choosing to segregate yourself because you think the game should be tailor-made to your taste.