People Need to Start Respecting Healers More

I believe what happens a lot is the relationships that exist between the roles of the dungeon. I'm a tank. The healer that keeps me alive has more of my thanks than anyone else, because I know that when I'm pulling huge packs of trash, popping cooldowns on rotation, dodging AOEs, and keeping agro off everyone else, I am still taking a beating, and the healer is kind enough to take care of me. I'm also a healer. A dps that gets hit by AOEs that can be dodged makes my job harder. A tank at least has my appreciation if they don't lose agro, because it keeps me from getting punched in the face. As a tank and as a healer, I generally see at the very least 1 commendation from every 4 man I run, sometimes 2 or 3, but almost 99.9% of the time, at least one, from the tank if I'm a healer, or the healer if I am a tank. That simply comes with the relationship between the healer and tank. It doesn't matter how amazing the dps is, how skilled they are, the dynamic still remains that it's the tank who keeps things off the healer, and it's the healer who keeps the tank alive. So it's no surprise that they commend each other, even if the dps were super amazing.

Even in the case of speed running where you push one another to stressful points, there is still a huge appreciation between a healer and a tank for getting through those huge pulls. Call it unfair, sure, but at least when you understand the relationship between them, you'll at least be able to understand why you didn't get all three commends as a dps. Also, I'm sure many people have heard this, but maybe you shouldn't main the one role that almost 90% of the game community mains. Complaints like "DPS queues take so long" are because of this problem. I think people who just want to carry the big guns are just compensating for something.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

I usually commend the healer if I see him DPS while keeping the party alive - which is to say, almost never because 9/10 healers like to stand around and do nothing.

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I actually get really annoyed when I see this and call them out on it as nicely as possible, asking them if they don't feel comfortable with healing and DPSing or something because when I do see this, it usually just looks like the person is being lazy as a lot of times it's during periods where healing isn't very intensive, and all that is really needed to keep the party alive is an AEO heal here and there.

On that note, it was beyond frustrating yesterday when I was kicked out of EX Leviathan, and I was healing properly, and DPSing Leviathan's head and guess what the other healer was doing? Basically nothing as I'd constantly have 3-6 bubbles and she'd always have 1 or none and provided zero DPS to boot. I called her out on it several times, as nicely as possible asking her to actually contribute to healing and then the party voted to kick me! Really, really irritating!

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Originally Posted by Bluevann

Yes, but this works only for when you're leveling (1000 gil really isn't worth the hassle of 15 clicks for most of people). I still think the reward should be commendations points instead of gil, much like how the reward for chocobo companion challenges is chocobo exp, and pvp challenges, wolf marks.

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Also... This is just beyond lazy, and kinda rude to your party (if they did a good job). If you're too lazy to click a button... Why are you playing MMORPGs?

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Originally Posted by DevilsDontFly

...personally I think that compared to the WHM, the SCH doesn't bring the "I did all that" feeling because of Eos/Selene. A healer that can save a whole team in the blink of an eye smashing buttons like crazy when everyone's about to die and survive is THE guy. But when you do that as a WHM it seems more com worthy than doing the same thing with a pet to cover you up. I tend to always give coms to the healer, but if I see that anyone on the team surpassed my expectations, sorry healer, no coms for you. Latelly I've been giving lots and lots of coms to tanks and DPS also.

You get faster queues than anyone else, you're the "we need you" of every team... Isn't that a good reward already?

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You realize that (at least in my humble opinion) to be the best healer you possibly can as a SCH that you need to put your pet on obey and use their skills on the hotbar like you'd use your own? It's no easier. It's just visually different.

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Originally Posted by Naliee

This made me twitch a little. I'm sorry, but you have to define what is a "good healer".

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To put it simply, I keep people alive, free of debilitating status affects (sorry, but some status affects are honestly not even worth bothering with), have swiftcast at the ready if needed, make sure my pet is on obey to be able to use its' skills as efficiently as possible (still need help actually figuring out hotbars in FFXIV because even though I can do it successfully it's annoying and it'd be nice just to have a third hotbar I can drag the pet's skills to), and I DPS as much as I possibly can without limiting my ability to keep the party alive.

I have a story.
Today I did WoD originally as a Drg, our alliance basically all died out and both healers waited a bit...I left, returned as SCH, I main SCH and chatted a bit with PT and alliance, got 1 com...
Point is, you aren't always going to get comm's. Doesn't matter if you're solo healing. Tanking as DPS because lame tank, or whatever.
Just not going to get comm's if you were the the last DPS alive or Healer to kill a boss. Just happens.
Is it a little disheartening? Yup but oh well. Just keep doing your best and people will see that...
It helps to be chatty and friendly in dungeons too. Those people make a run fun are better than anything else.

If I play healer I decide what person to give the commendation to otherwise if I'm playing dps I will give the other dps the commendation unless they being a complete idiot, which I usually play dps 90% of the time so the other dps usually gets the commendation.

People love healers, if they don't love us they simply die.... "Did I forget to use Physick? Oh no!"

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Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark

I'll challenge that statement with my experience on duty finder, along with some logical speculation:
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They are the scum, and they are NUMEROUS. VERY. NUMEROUS.

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In Duty finder perhaps, but not in general. I main PLD, and my primary alts are WHM and SCH in that order. I see plenty of annoying behavior, but perhaps because I seldom grind out the dungeons and primals for the various relic quests, I do not encounter the specific minority of players who's sole focus is on obtaining what *they* want as fast as possible regardless of the consequence.

I did just pick the number 10 out of the air, I should have added a qualification that I was picking a number to represent that the minority of tanks, healers and DPS are actually jerks, no matter how over represented they are in people's experience thanks to them being louder and shoutier than the more silent majority.

From a damage dealer's perspective, my guess would be that the tank & healer are already going to have the "Commend Each Other Circle Jerk". And, often, it's true. Because of this, I tend to give my commendation to a damage dealer. Unless they have really made a mess of things, then I look to the tank/healer (favoring the healer due to them having longer wait times than tanks).

Sometimes I will give a commendation to a new tank/healer as a means to encourage them to continue playing that role.

But if everyone did great, then I get conflicted and wish that I could give more commendations.

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Originally Posted by Evangela

true. most lala players have attitude problem.

I like roe players more. most of them are good persons and roe are cute.

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I seriously hope you're joking and not actually going so low as to stereotype a fictional race. Seeing "race" comments in games makes me realize just why the world is so messed up in reality when it comes to stereotyping and racism.

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Originally Posted by Noshpan

From a damage dealer's perspective, my guess would be that the tank & healer are already going to have the "Commend Each Other Circle Jerk". And, often, it's true. Because of this, I tend to give my commendation to a damage dealer. Unless they have really made a mess of things, then I look to the tank/healer (favoring the healer due to them having longer wait times than tanks).

Sometimes I will give a commendation to a new tank/healer as a means to encourage them to continue playing that role.

But if everyone did great, then I get conflicted and wish that I could give more commendations.

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I wish there was a way to fairly make sure everyone in a party get's a commendation from each other if everyone did a good job, as I view that as more fair than just one person getting all the commendations.