Hurray! Finally saved up 6mil for my personal house!

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Originally Posted by Quesse

Why do people keep saying this? Don't people realize that this is an MMO? People might actually have, you know, FRIENDS on the server they are on? That it costs real dollars to transfer your account(s) to another server? That none (essentially) of your gil transfers so you can't buy a house if you transfer? That 1.0 characters didn't have a choice where they were put and were even prevented from transferring for a long while? Its such a glib response to tell someone its their fault that they just haven't up and moved to another server as if its a click of the button with no repercussions.

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Because it is. ''it's your fault'' Were not the words I used. People don't have to move.
However it is a disadvantage of being on a more populated server.

In response to your question:

Why do people keep saying that this is not simply the (logical) result of being on a higher population server with the current system?

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

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How I look whenever anyone posts images/gifs without actually contributing anything to a discussion:
http://i.imgur.com/O5bos8i.jpg

Is there a reason you using the word ''fault'' tho? Because it is not anyones fault.
It is however your choice.

It is a disadvantage of being on a larger server.
You mention having a huge FC and many friends? Well good luck getting that on a smaller server..
Have you considered that you can boast about those numbers precisely because you are on a larger server with a higher population? And that precisely because there are so many FC members and friends, that there are less plots available?

I've been saving for a mansion in la noscea, but every FC has bought all the mansions and medium houses!! It says there are 3 wards with mansions for sell but I can't find them.
They really need to have a separate housing wards for FC and player housing Dx

Regardless of how you might feel about people on populated servers get what they deserved/signed up for. There is a limited amount of personal housing and it is shared with the Group content housing. This is bad design for an MMO. With only 1440 houses available for sale per server its not conductive to a game that intends to grow. How many Characters can be on a server? Cause If i have three characters on one server, I can own 6 houses or more (i don't think there is a restriction to how many plots you can own) and thats just if I have one FC house and one personal house per character. I get the feeling there is more than 1440 individual players (not including characters) even on the smallest and least populated server. I guess its a good thing not everyone is interested in housing or can afford one. Cost, though, is one thing that doesnt matter to me, not compared to availability.

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Originally Posted by Aeyis

Is there a reason you using the word ''fault'' tho? Because it is not anyones fault.
It is however your choice.

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Wait I'm confused.
You just said in the other post it's 'Your fault' (choice)
Also see top page of 15 in my thoughts.
I chose Balmung because it has friendly people.
Not my fault that SE has horrible http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/image...sight_Icon.png.
And we suggested instances, also why is FC/personal housing shared?
No one elses "fault" but SE's.

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

Wait I'm confused.
You just said in the other post it's 'Your fault' (choice)
Also see top page of 15 in my thoughts.
I chose Balmung because it has friendly people.
Not my fault that SE has horrible http://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/w/image...sight_Icon.png.
And we suggested instances, also why is FC/personal housing shared?
No one elses "fault" but SE's.

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I think the point that other person was trying to make was that it is your choice to have gone with that, ignoring any potential consequences for doing so, regardless of how legit of a reason it may be (such as friends being there). Consumers ignoring the consequences of their actions really is a facepalm moment, regardless of any reason for doing it. It's like someone buying a fuel guzzling car, knowing full well it does that, then complaining to the manufacturer/dealership that the car is costing them too much money on gas. It's true that it does, but whose fault is it that you decided on it to begin with? lol That sort of thing.

I for one have no intention of giving SE the benefit of blaming paying consumers (whose money continues to be siphoned into projects that improve and build upon housing features) for the massive design flaw it is 100% responsible for creating.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

I think the point that other person was trying to make was that it is your choice to have gone with that, ignoring any potential consequences for doing so, regardless of how legit of a reason it may be (such as friends being there). Consumers ignoring the consequences of their actions really is a facepalm moment, regardless of any reason for doing it. It's like someone buying a fuel guzzling car, knowing full well it does that, then complaining to the manufacturer/dealership that the car is costing them too much money on gas. It's true that it does, but whose fault is it that you decided on it to begin with? lol That sort of thing.

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Amen to this.

Ps. All servers have friendly people on it...not just Balmung though they are the most outspoken bunch on these forums due to their quantity.

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Originally Posted by Welsper59

I think the point that other person was trying to make was that it is your choice to have gone with that, ignoring any potential consequences for doing so, regardless of how legit of a reason it may be (such as friends being there). Consumers ignoring the consequences of their actions really is a facepalm moment, regardless of any reason for doing it. It's like someone buying a fuel guzzling car, knowing full well it does that, then complaining to the manufacturer/dealership that the car is costing them too much money on gas. It's true that it does, but whose fault is it that you decided on it to begin with? lol That sort of thing.

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I get what he is saying. But not all of us chose to go there or when we did choose, it wasnt the overpopulated place it has become. So, I was there when it was relatively uncrowded then it became over populated. Would that then make it my fault and the onus is on me to move somewhere less crowded?

The argument makes sense assuming it was busy and crowded when you chose to make a character there.

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Originally Posted by MageBlack

The argument makes sense assuming it was busy and crowded when you chose to make a character there.

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In your case, it doesn't make sense, however there are so many cases where that is the case. People move to Balmung or constantly complain to open it and then they come back and complain about something like housing.
With that being said, sorry that your server became a crowded monster.

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Originally Posted by Ophie-Mio

Amen to this.

Ps. All servers have friendly people on it...not just Balmung though they are the most outspoken bunch on these forums due to their quantity.

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I've been on 3 dif servers and Balmung felt more home to me, that's why I'm here. I'm not going to up a leave a server that I love and the people in it.
I still can't wrap my mind as to "Well, you chose it knowing this and that..."
Actually, no, I didn't. I didn't know that housing was shared with FC housing too. Nor did I know it was going to be "Get there in 10 mins or you're screwed!"
Didn't know it'll be so much gil either to the VERY last minute. Then they assumed everyone on x server had millions of gil.
Very unfair to the soloist that tried to save up cash only for FC people
or a group to take it. They had many...many months to do this well and they screwed up. Simple as that.
Seems to me they forgot about it and went "Oh! Let's just open FC house to the masse!"
That's it.

Next time, take a looksee on how other MMO's do housing. We won't have this problem or at least listen to the feedback given.
They just did everything completely wrong here.