Having Not joined the 60 dungeon roulette for a few days, recently I picked it up, for more tomes per day.
Nothing special happened, I'm just a little curious about the dungeon I was matched in: why always Sirius HM? Four times I joined 60 roulette, three of which were Sirius. This dungeon was unusual in the past. What made it so popular?
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11-19-2016, 06:46 AMDragon_Sanders
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11-19-2016, 06:55 AMTexa
*in a level 50 dungeon*
Me: Okay MNK you're gonna have to LB target after certain dialogue
Monk: What's LB? -
11-19-2016, 08:10 AMbounddreamerJust be happy it wasn't Aetherochemical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon_Sanders
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11-19-2016, 09:12 AMLunaxiaI've had Aethero 8 times in a row. I don't even do 60 roulette for lore, I do it for dungeon drops for seals, which means it's as pointless as it is boring. It doesn't help that it's my most worst dungeon in the game either - I didn't like it when I first played it and 2034983 runs later, I hate it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bounddreamer
It's got to the point now that if I get it and there's no bonus, I just leave. Sorry, but I'm not putting myself through another 30 minutes (on a good day) of tedium for your anima. I'd rather go do something else and wait out the penalty. -
11-19-2016, 09:25 AMHeliantheaeI hope it becomes the norm. But with DF being DF, I wouldn't blame tanks for not wanting to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaurie
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Originally Posted by Ninster
I would totally never ever give the healer Shadewalker. Totally not a thing I would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi
But yea, I meant Smokescreen. I get the effects right in game, but when talking about it, I get them mixed up. Same with Armor Crush and Dancing Edge. But at least with those two, Armor Crush sounds like an attack that would lower slashing and Dancing Edge sounds like an attack that would keep your attack speed up. -
11-19-2016, 09:34 AMTaranTatsuuchiUgh, the ninja skills...Quote:
Originally Posted by Heliantheae
They're all kinds of mixed up.
Armor crush has the animation and name for a skill that should reduce the opponent's defenses...
Aoelian Edge has a name and animation that looks like it should be the one that refreshes Huton...
Dancing Edge's name and animation would fit just fine as the basic damage one... -
11-19-2016, 09:35 AMPaladinleedsShould I be glad I stick to healers and tanks?Quote:
Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi
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11-19-2016, 09:45 AMValkyrie_Lenneth
Had a tank in a11 earlier who started in sword oath, so I switched to shield oath. He then popped shield oath immediately and went to the adds so i went back into sword oath (this drives me nuts). He only hit 1, both times. This was the convo...
[4:01 p.m.](Me) if you are going to tank, at least grab all of them...
[4:01 p.m.](SMN) you're supposed to tank all of the things, not just one :o
[4:02 p.m.](Other Tank) Who cares there adds
[4:02 p.m.](SMN) well... 2 dps almost died
[4:02 p.m.](SMN) one did -
11-19-2016, 10:33 AMAmetrineThe Plague gear is suddenly extra popular for vanity purposes, and Sirius HM is easier to farm than St Moci.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon_Sanders
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11-19-2016, 10:39 AMDragon_SandersWhaaaaaaaaat I have passed every gear in that dungeon because the attribute was out of date.....OMGQuote:
Originally Posted by Ametrine
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11-19-2016, 10:51 AMTexa
The gear in Pharos is good for building up desynth too. More people are leveling that now because Battle Demi III's are good money again and you can get glass fibers and astral silk and such on things that are over ilvl 180.
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11-19-2016, 10:53 AMFrownyARF roulette.... worse dungeon ever. Rather quit and level FSH than do it. The scripture isn't worth it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bounddreamer
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11-19-2016, 11:13 AMDragon_SandersIf Sirius takes the place of Aetherochemical another day, it's hard to tell which is more horrible...To tell the truth, at least the music in Aethero sounds not so lethargic.Quote:
Originally Posted by bounddreamer
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11-19-2016, 11:52 AMYudzster
Doing daily DR EX Roullete, got Gubal HM. Me as BLM, a MNK, WHM and DRK
Tank pulls all the adds after the fiery hallway till the books, then said: "Lb"
The MNK lb'd -
11-19-2016, 12:23 PMrevonineIt's so heavily weighted to pop in 60 roulette that it's just annoying, even most of my full premades with mates dropped us into ARF. I'm literally to afraid to do 60 roulette now because I'm so sick of that dungeon >.<Quote:
Originally Posted by Lunaxia
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11-19-2016, 12:23 PMNinster
DF didn't like me today.
Ran into a curious summoner in 60 roulette (Lost City yay) that would attempt to build stacks with Tri-disaster + Fester + Bane + Painflare. Except the Bane never hit anything. He even did this on the bosses. What followed was, naturally, clueless Ruin III spam until OOM.
Then got a new tank in lvl 50 roulette (Keeper of the Lake yuck) that didn't seem to know how to play Paladin. Or worse, couldn't follow directions. So here I am, on Bard, tanking 90% of the things he pulled, trying to help him. We get to Midgardsormr and of course it's a wreck. The tank spins the dragons around so everyone gets cleaved, which isn't entirely helped by him BARELY having hate over me and the ninja. Worse, he'd been told several times to get in the shield after we popped it, and would naturally die to Animadversion. The healer eventually had to leave and we got saddled with another poor victim thinking that the bonus was a blessing. Somehow though, we finally cleared it. It's still baffling how, even after popping Quelling regularly AND playing Ballad for both healers, I still managed to end up tanking the dragons. -
11-19-2016, 02:18 PMGalaktica
You ever have one of those days playing BLM where it feels like the universe hates you for trying to use Enochain and Ley Lines? You get a duty full of bosses with annoying mechanics (like leaving the arena...) that mess up your rotations, the other dps is too good at their job so your casts keep getting interrupted because enemies keep dying, and you get targeted by literally every AOE possible? It's nobody's fault, your party is doing fine, but it feels like the game just hates your guts.
I had one of those days yesterday when I got Sohm Al. After the duty, I just quietly turned off my PS4, curled up in a ball, and went to sleep. -
11-19-2016, 02:31 PMSaitoHikari
So, uh... I ended up in an ARF run with a really really good Monk as a Bard. We were apparently so good the tank didn't notice our healer died VS the Ascians first phase (he rezzed himself to run back) and started second phase without him present.
We won anyway. Between the both of us, our DPS was so high that we kept pushing the Ascian Prime into mechanics, giving the tank enough time to recover enough HP to survive the fight. The hell?
I wish I could have recorded that because it was HILARIOUS. -
11-19-2016, 02:32 PMNalyna
I entered DF and am greeted by three Lalafells. I'm a Miqo'te. This immediately amuses me because irl, I'm 4'11. I'm never the tallest person in the room, unless I'm the only adult, and even then there's a good chance I'm still not the tallest.
<Lalafell A>: Let's kick the healer (me) until we find another Lalafell.
<Lalafell B>: We need adult supervision.
Yes! -
11-19-2016, 02:53 PMZhaneX
Had an...odd experience, using the Trial Roulette earlier.
First it landed me in Sephirot, and somebody quit. And then another. And another. And so forth. So the rest of us left too because it seemed unlikely we'd be able to fill up a party again. There was one person 100% new to it, and I'm wondering if that was the trigger for the first couple people quitting. I just cannot get people who jump off at the first sign of even the slightest difficulty.
So after having to queue up again after all of 10 seconds, where'd I land next? Sophia Normal. Luckily even though again there was someone new to the duty there, no one ditched. It was a rough go, with lots of people falling off and not paying attention, but ultimately still an easy clear. As Sephirot previously likely would have been. -
11-19-2016, 04:27 PMMysteryswordDid you make sure to give them ice cream if they were good?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nalyna
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11-19-2016, 05:41 PMOrbiausI get that a lot with doton with ninja BUT the problem is that lots of people turn effects off and I'm not sure if they can even see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysterysword
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11-19-2016, 05:57 PMTaranTatsuuchiIf they're set to limited then they can see other people's ground placed aoes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Orbiaus
If they're set to off, they don't see anything I believe. -
11-19-2016, 08:45 PMOdd2oul
Did trial roulette today as a tank and landed in Ravana normal mode. I main tanked it and found myself desperate for healing most of the time. When Ravana was almost dead I found myself not even getting healed anymore and eventually died while Ravana started wreaking havoc on the party at the last 3% since the OT got pushed off.
One of the astrologians asked me "where's the living dead bro?"
I responded with "where's the heals?"
"It's a dps loss to keep healing when the boss is at 5%" -
11-19-2016, 09:03 PMMysteryswordWow, that actually made me kind of sick. TWO ASTs, and not one regen buff or even Essential Dignity, which isn't even on the GCD? Lemme guess, these were the kind of ASTs who used Lightspeed for DPS too, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Odd2oul
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11-20-2016, 03:35 AMMoonfishWhat's wrong with using light speed for dps?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mysterysword
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11-20-2016, 03:52 AMKaurieThe damage reductionQuote:
Originally Posted by Moonfish
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11-20-2016, 03:54 AMCeneraeGiving yourself 25% less potency on your DPS spells hardly seems like an optimal way to increase one's DPS. Even if it does let you jump around like a looney for the duration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonfish
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11-20-2016, 04:42 AMMysteryswordIt says right in the tooltip for Lightspeed: reducing damage dealt by attack magic by 25%. Not even the potency, just the damage dealt gets a straight-up 25% cut.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moonfish
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11-20-2016, 05:40 AMLissandra
Did a Sohr Kai run as a smn and was paired with a blm. They never use enochian, so I say "enochian increases your damage, so you should probably use it". I get no response. Neither the tank or healer say anything. We carried on through the entire dungeon with him doing just the old rotation of fire III, fire spam, etc.
When I exited I saw I got two commendations. Thanks, tank and healer. :) -
11-20-2016, 06:54 AMDragon_Sanders
Well, good. Yesterday got Aethero again. No problem at the beginning, got a little worried when tank said "nice and quick" when we killed first group of mobs, for we were not quick at all. Was he satirizing?
Then I found I hadn't been here so long that I couldn't get rid of the capped item lv, the slowed spell speed and the delayed server. Sometimes I failed in flare or ice IV, sometimes failed in MP estimating and restoring.
In a word, most of my rotations went wrong. The DPS was slower than normal. And tank kept on saying "good""well" such kind of words, which sounded strange.
Nothing could be worse than the last boss fighting. My rotations got wrong and wrong, Enochain almost betrayed me.
Until we finished the dungeon, I noticed at least two of us were new and tank was trying to encourage them. But had it anything to do with me? I just wanted to leave there as soon as possible. -
11-20-2016, 10:44 AMVanilleFangThis reminds me of a run a dud a little bit ago in the same dungeon. I got into it with my BRD brother. I was healing. The tank said, after the second boss, that "this is the best run I've had here". He had very good equipment, so he wasn't exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragon_Sanders
The thing is? My brother and I had literally just complained, irl, about it being one of the worst runs we've had on a while. The tank couldn't hold hate, and the other DPS, who was a DRG, was lackluster. Not to mention my brother's accessories broke after we wiped on the first boss (let's just say I died because the adds were ignored and the tank turned the boss toward me, and he killed me when I was trying to heal everyone).
DPS was slow, and tank was lazy. I hope he was being sarcastic. -
11-20-2016, 11:35 AMErdrickLoto
Got a "Ward Up" group where someone refused to hold off on killing guys at the same time... On the one hand, I think it only happened once each enemy. On the other hand, it happened once per enemy. Not good... Did you know that they can summon another enemy? Because I didn't before now!
On the bright side, I'm 95% certain I met the famous Selli (Noblesse, right?) and had her as my healer! She was great. -
11-20-2016, 11:40 AMRansom
Had the oddest experience in potd a couple of days ago. Remember that the 61-70 block has a total dinosaur motif going on with it's trash mobs. So I sign up for those floors, get in, there's a blm with us. He takes one look at the mobs in the next room: 2 tyrannosaurs and a raptor.
blm: "Oh no!"
me: "?"
blm: "I'm afraid of dinosaurs!"
blm: "I have a dinosaur phobia!"
tank: "lol"
blm: "I can't do this!"
blm: *abandons duty*
everyone: "wtf?" -
11-20-2016, 07:52 PMYeol
Joined Sophia (Extreme) through raid finder as SCH for bird farm. I've cleared this fight many times as MCH, AST and SCH.
I've noticed that my co-healer was not toping tanks or the party other than giving regen. Not that I mind, as long as no one dies it is fine.
But.. tanks died during tank busters a couple of times. I understand that if a tank dies from a tank buster with 1 hit, then it is their fault for not using CDs.
What happened is that the other tank was not swapping in time. So MT ate the tank buster and the auto attack.
MT pointed this out to OT, but OT said you can eat both tank buster and auto attack if healers focused on healing you.
My co-healer seemed to be annoyed by this and asked not to put pressure on healers. (Was he doing anything other than regen?)
I did see him in CS a couple of times but he was barely making 150 dps.
We wipe because it seems tanks are not toped or shielded after the tank busters to receive the auto attack.
I did my part by saving at least 1 aetherflow stack to heal that tank buster and adloquium before it hits.
We wiped a couple of times due to this.
The MT then says he will solo tank since the OT kept dying.
OT get upset and they start to argue. The co-healer was against healing this as solo tank.
I on the other hand got exited to try and heal it.
We give it a try and somehow it goes smooth until the MT makes a mistake and dies (Very silly mechanic mistake).
He then gets bad words from the OT and the co-healer. Next pull, the OT goes and kills himself by jumping off.
The co-healer sees this and doesn't bother healing at all (I did not notice this until we reached the ads phase).
I started dpsing the white Mage, looked away and then saw that the healer and half of the party did not look away.
They did not bother after knowing there was no OT.
This is when I realized that my co-healer doesn't want to bother with this anymore. But I was too late to heal the MT therefore he died. My heals alone were not enough.
So I over heal to get aggro on ads and position them for the other 3 dps alive to kill them.
They managed to kill 1 but the 3rd ad stayed alive. And we wipe..
We vote abandon after this and got the hell out of there.
I don't blame my co-healer. I blame the OT who refused to tank swap on time and was always late. -
11-20-2016, 11:08 PMAnnah
^^ For the most part (most part), when we fail as a group in Sophia EX it's because the tanks argue back and forth about the tank buster.
Almost every single time we get through a Sophia fight it's because the tanks help each other. While it is true there are a time here and there where Sophia enrages due to poor dps (or folks having no idea what they're doing), I would say 9 times out of 10 when we cannot get Sophia down it's because the tanks aren't helping each other. -
11-20-2016, 11:10 PMAnnahHe's going to have a bad time in the next expansionQuote:
Originally Posted by Ransom
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11-20-2016, 11:16 PMFluestergrasPoor guy :( Reminds me of the story of the cetaphobic summoner in Bismarck some (read: a lot of) pages ago...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ransom
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11-21-2016, 02:10 AMMysterysword
Queued for level 50 roulette as BLM, drop into an in-prog Amdapor Keep normal with a WAR, AST, and MCH, just after the first boss.
Well, for the remainder of that run, I never once saw the AST use Royal Road, and the MCH did nothing but run around, never once used Hot Shot, completely ignoring any and all procs they got, and I don't even know what else.
The AST killed themself at the Demon Wall by straight-up running off the edge, and gave all the Balances and Arrows they got to the MCH, who, I will repeat, never once had the Hot Shot buff up. Then gave me, a BLM, Ewer.
I haven't had to hardcore carry such incompetents in a while. -
11-21-2016, 09:56 AMSeryne
Just got out of floors 71-80 of POTD with a white mage that refused to heal me. I've been going in as DRG to level it some for shiggles. I ran off on my own to get a coffer from a room they ran in but promptly ran out of for some reason. Anyway, the healer says to me "You ran off on your own so if you die it's your fault.". I respond "Please relax. If I do die I'm not going to blame you." Because really I wasn't! In the event that I did die it was my own damn fault so why would I blame them?
Somehow while I was off on my own killing bears to get the coffer everyone else died. I hit the carin of return for them so they can res and we can go along on our merry way. The next floor we end up on is one with no auto heal. Eh no worries we got a healer. Except she didn't heal me. At all. I was near death and not a single cure, cure ii, or regen came my way. I pretty much heavily depended on my pots and second wind.
We get to the behemoth boss and all I can think is "Well I'm probably going to die since I'm gonna be tanking it and she still doesn't want to heal me". Surprisingly I didn't die even though I got zero heals! The WHM did though which made me laugh. Serves her right for trying to let me die.