Stop forcing female clothes on me

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

Do people genuinely care about what others wear in a video game?

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Yes.Way too much to be exact.

Will they you tell directly? No. Will they silently judge you? Most likely.

What can they do about it? Absolutely nothing.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

Besides, I am not a gear designer, it is not my job to come up with my own ideas and if you've worked in design (or any kind of product development), you'd be aware that customers do not need to be this specific. It is the job of the company to listen to feedback and find out themselves via research and testing what's needed to improve the service.

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I'm not trying to be combative, but I don't understand this line of reasoning. If you hadn't specified that form fitting clothing is what you want I would never have known. It has taken just over 150 posts for this insightful suggestion to appear. While critiquing the game is not your job, how else are the developers supposed to know what you want them to do?

The worst case with feedback is when the devs listen but still fail to deliver because the request wasn't clear in the first place. The developers waste time creating something new, use up limited resources, and the players are left disappointed because they gained nothing in return. Providing detailed feedback makes this less likely. With good feedback the devs can respond to your requests without missteps and they can respond to the requests of other players without using as many resources that could then go towards your personal wishlist. There is no downside to being detailed and it's completely reasonable to expect players to put at least some effort into providing feedback.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

You make it sound like OP said they don't want you to wear dresses. It's not about other people's choices, it's about OPs desire for masculine glam. Why do so many shit on this simple request and make it about their own style?

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1. I wasn't fully referring to OP it was more in general for some people i've seen on this thread. In general on these forums I've seen a lot of sentiment that because some people don't want to see it, men should only wear masculine stuff.
2. Theirs already tons of masculine stuff in game we've gotten lots recently so even then i disagree with the idea we need more, but if people want more that's valid

I have no issue if you just want masc stuff in the game even if I disagree that we need more.

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Originally Posted by Grimforth

Yes.Way too much to be exact.

Will they you tell directly? No. Will they silently judge you? Most likely.

What can they do about it? Absolutely nothing.

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I agree way too much. I've seen threads pop up often lately about this very topic, I just wish we didn't care what people wear in a video game frankly it's tiring enough to see people be like this IRL people moving the goal post from "oh we don't care" to now suddenly caring and trying to force weird gender stereotypes and roles onto people who don't fit into their box.

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Originally Posted by PyurBlue

It has taken just over 150 posts for this insightful suggestion to appear. While critiquing the game is not your job, how else are the developers supposed to know what you want them to do?

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By talking directly to the players instead of making the forum appear like a large void that you can yell into or not. If they have any further questions, they need to ask them.

Also, I said this before, so idk why I need to repeat myself time and again.

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Originally Posted by Rithy255

1. I wasn't fully referring to OP it was more in general for some people i've seen on this thread. In general on these forums I've seen a lot of sentiment that because some people don't want to see it, men should only wear masculine stuff.

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Okay, maybe quoting these people directly would help avoiding misunderstandings.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

I want masculine glam that shows the shape of my male character, not those huge jackets that turn him into the shape of a tall toddler, if that helps.

Besides, I am not a gear designer, it is not my job to come up with my own ideas and if you've worked in design (or any kind of product development), you'd be aware that customers do not need to be this specific. It is the job of the company to listen to feedback and find out themselves via research and testing what's needed to improve the service.

Are you a gear designer working for the company or why exactly are you so invested in this discussion as you don't seem to care? Because if so, you are doing a poor job at research. I genuinely don't understand why you are here.

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I know I'd like more Dark Souls inspired plated armor sets. That's reasonably specific enough. But I don't care enough either so it's just serving as an example for my point.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

Okay, maybe quoting these people directly would help avoiding misunderstandings.

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These people know who they are, frankly the title shouldn't be rage bait also.

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Originally Posted by yesnt

By talking directly to the players instead of making the forum appear like a large void that you can yell into or not. If they have any further questions, they need to ask them.

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We can agree on this at least. Two way communication would make things so much better.

Female vs male clothing is purely subjective. Clothing articles, don't have genders. Clothing can be more feminine or masculine, but once again... even that is subjective

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Originally Posted by CCheshire

It exists, and it's called Blacklisting.

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sadly not enough room for all the weird male chars with female clothes


btw i know a few people here in the thread which are heavly against "all day cloths in final because it destroys the fantasy" while a male in a dress doesnt destroy the fantasy at all ye? which paradox

bro men can and will wear dresses irl too. what kind of dystopian understanding of gender are you stuck in???