I just want beta to hurry up and start. Gettin bored, and want to see more than just gridania what limited selection of classes/races they have for alpha.
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12-06-2012, 12:59 AMReika
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12-06-2012, 01:02 AMChardrizardWeird, my friends in malaysia has no issue playing and they are registered under UK too.Quote:
Originally Posted by deathstix
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12-06-2012, 01:13 AMHoly_Dragoon
BTW. Last Story is pretty awesome. :). /waiting still.
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12-06-2012, 01:24 AMKeisuna
Actually, I almost hope I don't get an alpha invite now, because then I might not get an early beta invite or something, and I'd definitely be more excited to get into the beta.
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12-06-2012, 01:32 AMReinheart
I'll copy/paste this from other thread just FYI since twitter for FF_XIV_EN didn't update anything since the Producer Letter.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post913553
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Me and few others mentioned this to YoshiP on the JP thread but current problem with ARR FFXIV is that the new information regarding ARR is spread out all over on the internet and it's not updated throughout all sites at the same time.
Video 3 and 4 didn't even get posted on the official ARR FFXIV PR site until YoshiP posted the dev blog post. No information was released on The Lodestone topics, only way people would of known about it was through the forums, facebook, twitter, or from other friends who have seen the video's. (Or for those subscribed to the youtube channel and watching it closely for update.)
Same with the 2nd wave of alpha tester invitation NA side had NO information regarding this one, only way people found out that it was distributed was through friends who got in, or from the JP Twitter post.
We notified YoshiP that these should be better managed and to spread out the information to all available sites at same time to bring in as much interest from those waiting for ARR or know Final Fantasy series.
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I can keep waiting for getting the invitation to the alpha/beta test but devs needs to make sure all the people waiting outside of forums gets updated the same time. -
12-06-2012, 01:40 AMHiirNoivl
My logic sensors dictated that I "follow" the JP twitter account and subscribe to the youtube channel. But maybe people don't have those options for some reason?
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12-06-2012, 01:43 AMstanleyyoungI feel the same way, I rather get into beta then alpha. So if I don't get into alpha and SE decides I should have first crack at beta then not getting into alpha isn't all that bad. Also I don't know how the beta selection process will go, if its open or closed etc. heck SE might decide players who didn't get into alpha along with being legacy are first for beta, then followed by ppl who didn't get in and aren't legacy, followed by ppl who got in alpha and are legacy, finally by ppl who got into alpha and weren't legacy. Then I guess random ppl after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keisuna
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12-06-2012, 01:49 AMVelhartAgreed. This has been one of my biggest complaints with SE since day one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinheart
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12-06-2012, 01:50 AMElexia
There's going to be closed Betas mainly and much like alpha: "We're going to try our best to get active players in first."
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12-06-2012, 01:59 AMAzurushowd it go? i wouldnt know, i was too busy playing dota...Quote:
Originally Posted by Elexia
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12-06-2012, 02:15 AMAyamiaCount the amount of active players from your friends that got in. Then count the inactive ones...Quote:
Originally Posted by Azurus
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12-06-2012, 02:27 AMAzuruslol i was being facetious by making a point i wasnt playing alpha. but ya my firends gave up on xiv a long time ago and didnt bother to sign up for alpha. Thank god i guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ayamia
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12-06-2012, 03:04 AMBiggLethal
If anyone is into JRPGs and looking to kill time, the demo for Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch came out on PSN yesterday. Looking forward to its release on January 22nd!
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12-06-2012, 03:12 AMIronSoup
Well, I do understand SE in a way about inviting those inactive players... it's marketing really. "Here's how we changed it. Now, will you come to play again on our game?"... Don't forget that those inactive players have signed up for the Alpha so they should be considered as "highly-to-start-giving-us-money-again" players for Square Enix. The "very active" players will continue to play FFXIV even if they aren't invited in the Alpha.
It's no big deal really... unless you really want to get in the Alpha to test it and not just play it. I wanted to get in Alpha to test the engine, graphic and enviromental bugs and the new systems... playing it to say that all my 6 jobs were 20 and I completed the dungeon a dozern times wasn't on my list.... I'm not frustrated, I'm just sad that I can't help. -
12-06-2012, 03:16 AMHestern_NesternD: why did you have to introduce me to this...and why did I have to look it up? I love Studio Ghibli - and this game looks amazing amazing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BiggLethal
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12-06-2012, 03:21 AMmikoto_qc
one of my friends on xbox live havent played FFXIV since january. But he applied for Alpha when i told him about it. Guess what. He got invited to test Alpha when im not and im active players. I do agree with Iron Soup its have a marketing purpose. And worst scenario here is theres chances i dont get selected for either Alpha or Beta.............After that SE told us they will select Active players first........yeah right!
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12-06-2012, 03:28 AMGramul
Don't get paranoid now.
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12-06-2012, 03:34 AMAbriaelUnfortunately it's very limited. Also, it's exactly the same demo they shown at several events over and over... so I played it like.. 15 times?Quote:
Originally Posted by BiggLethal
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12-06-2012, 03:37 AMAbriaelIf it's a marketing move, it's not a very good one (which isn't surprising, Square Enix is the company that just had to withdraw a marketing stunt from facebook because they managed to get it associated to cyber bullying. I can't for the life of me fathom how the hell that has been greenlighted, I saw it coming from a mile away, and I wasn't the only one). Very limited alphas as this one aren't good marketing vehicles. Inviting that kind of players to a reasonably advanced beta that can really show the goods is much more effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by IronSoup
This, of course, without mentioning the fact that making a rule and then not honoring it in the face of your paying customers is a *very* bad marketing move.
Not really. There's a large number of people that just signs for every alpha/beta they see (there even are sites that list them all for their convenience) in order to have something new to play for a couple hours.Quote:
Don't forget that those inactive players have signed up for the Alpha so they should be considered as "highly-to-start-giving-us-money-again" players for Square Enix.
They log in, provide a warm body, log out, and never come back again, without providing any feedback at all.
By opening the alpha to everyone, SE opened the doors to a large number of those, excluding many that simply were much more deserving of the spot. Not a good idea. -
12-06-2012, 03:38 AMReinheartPlayed the JP version, it is amazing, I really liked this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hestern_Nestern
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12-06-2012, 03:40 AMmikoto_qcit is not paranoid. SE will make new selection for beta the same way as Alpha. That mean someone can be choosen for Alpha and beta, Or only one of those two or on the worst scenario none of the two. Its not being paranoid. It's simply a possiblity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gramul
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12-06-2012, 03:47 AMBiggLethalSorry, couldn't resist sharing this gem XD. If your really desperate, maybe you can try borrowing a PS3 from a friend? I remember borrowing my friend's Dreamcast when Ikaruga came out :) (fantastic game btw)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hestern_Nestern
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12-06-2012, 04:00 AMStarlord
Gotta love people that think there marketing experts! :P
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12-06-2012, 04:07 AMMug
Aaaanyway, I've finally given White Knight Chronicles a try after buying it years ago.
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12-06-2012, 04:15 AMAbriaelSome people are. You know, university (where one can also learn how to write "they are"), extensive work experience and all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlord
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12-06-2012, 04:22 AMStarlordPics or it didn't happen ^.^Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriael
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12-06-2012, 04:25 AMMrKupoIIRC, there's a 3DS version coming eventuallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Hestern_Nestern
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12-06-2012, 04:29 AMAbriael
Interesting that someone is so burned by having his arguments demolished here that he came to the site I work on to post a completely unrelated and petty personal attack.
I wonder who that might be... sooooo mysterious... almost impossible to find out!
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12-06-2012, 04:45 AMReinheartDid you finish the first one? or does the NA version include 1 and 2 together..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mug
I really enjoyed the story on the first one and was so into it until I got to the ending on 1st one and was about to throw the PS3 out the window... really pissed me off how some recent games can't finish everything on one disk so they find excuses to release part 2, which should of been included in the first game.
I'm still trying to get my hands on Xenoblade JP version... I have English version inside my drawer at work but don't have the courage to try it out.... I don't think I can handle English voice overs on JRPG's... 'yet' -
12-06-2012, 04:50 AMAbriaelMay want to pull it out of the drawer Rein :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Reinheart
Unless the NA version is different from the Euro one, it includes the full Japanese voice track on top of the English one :D
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12-06-2012, 04:59 AMReinheartOMG... if that's the case.... I can handle English dialog, UI... I must try it out LOL Thank you for letting me know.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriael
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12-06-2012, 05:01 AMZantetsukenQuote:
Originally Posted by Reinheart
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12-06-2012, 05:04 AMGramulAnd now I picture him wearing it like a subligar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zantetsuken
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12-06-2012, 05:06 AMAbriaelUnfortunately the Japanese VOs make you fully appreciate how absolutely crappy the English translations are, but it's much, much better than nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinheart
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12-06-2012, 05:21 AMGodsleftsockWhere in Hawaii? My hometown :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinheart
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12-06-2012, 05:22 AMMugI live in Norway, so I have the EU version with both games included. I'm still on the first game (around level 25 at the moment).Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinheart
So both games are pretty much one game, just in two parts? I had a feeling when I started the game and it gave me two options; to either start the first game or the second one at lvl 35. Thought that was a bit weird :P
Like someone already pointed out, on the EU version you can choose both languages. I changed this quickly, as the English voice-overs were sped up, and the result was horrific. It's another game I still need to finish. I recently completed "Last Story", though, which I loved (and the English voice-overs were surprisingly good).Quote:
I'm still trying to get my hands on Xenoblade JP version... I have English version inside my drawer at work but don't have the courage to try it out.... I don't think I can handle English voice overs on JRPG's... 'yet'
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12-06-2012, 05:28 AMMrKupoI'm usually totally tolerant of English dubs, but Xenoblade for some reason is just absolutely horrible. If you can get the JP dub, then don't even bother listening to the english version IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reinheart
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12-06-2012, 05:28 AMJacien
What the heck the bed are you guys are talking about? The English VA in Xenoblade was great.
Although that probably stems that as an American, I find British accents more enjoyable than my own.
But then again, the Japanese voice of Dunban is Captain Falcon's. So that's a definite plus.
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12-06-2012, 05:30 AMIronSoupI do have a bachelor degree in marketing but I don't think you need a degree to figure out that what I wrote is indeed true. Even if inviting inactive players rather than inviting only active playersin the Alpha isn't a marketing decision, you have to admit that it doesn't hurt to try to regain the community you have lost as early as possible with no monbey costs whatsover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Starlord
I'm impressed someone actually thought about it but then again, people seem to forget that players do have a life out of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriael
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12-06-2012, 05:33 AMStarlordI do believe that you do bro, it just most of the time people love to fake what they have to boost their own Morale. I just have a hard time trusting the internet unless I really know themQuote:
Originally Posted by IronSoup