Dedicated Thread for Patch 2.55 Story Discussion/Spoilers

i really loved the final cinematic but minfillia i want her back and i knew that lala was gonna get killed her voice was grating on the nerves lol but really havent seen something that grabbed me like that since 9 so maybe you are returning to your former glory SE

Going back to people saying Ilberd is Gaius, Gaius is dead. He died at the Praetorium looking up and saying, "So, Cid, my conquest ends here in flames and ashes."

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Originally Posted by Hestern_Nestern

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Speaking of that scene, I've started to wonder if Roaille was actually bad, I know we caught her red handed, but maybe she was doing something that Ilbred didn't wanted us to know, or maybe she actually persuaded Ilberd while he intorregates her to join the dark side? :P

http://i.imgur.com/kDDPmES.jpg

Sultana is alive, just very ill.

I wouldn't use that as the truth when we know that people are keeping the whole thing under wraps.

That image has already surfaced, among other residents of Ul'dah saying the same thing. It's led to believe that Lolorito and the Monetarists are spreading that "rumor/lie" to prevent complete and utter rebellion in the city-state. I'd take it with little more than a grain of salt to its truthfulness.

Trying to find some nice wallpaper and accidently open this, straight go to my feeling.

Just hide it, I'm not sure is this consider spoiler or not.

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p...jpg?1413531344

http://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/p...jpg?1413531343

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Originally Posted by nuyu11

Trying to find some nice wallpaper and accidently open this, straight go to my feeling.

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At least there's art of them? I can think of one guy who wasn't in any of the art for his own over-hyped storyline, and got left out of expanded cast shots that even included most of the Hildibrand characters. I have nothing to remember him by except this hole in my heart.

So sorry to all the people with their Nanamo/Scions feels, (I'm feeling it too, a little) but at least you only have to wait until June to see their lives (and various exits) given meaning.

And to all the ppl who say thancred and minfilia can't be a couple, I'll just give you this

http://i.imgur.com/GEGZZ2w.jpg

YOU CANNOT DENY THE LOVE

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Originally Posted by AlexionSkylark

And to all the ppl who say thancred and minfilia can't be a couple, I'll just give you this

http://i.imgur.com/GEGZZ2w.jpg

YOU CANNOT DENY THE LOVE

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Where did you take that screenshot of and how is Y'shtola there? o_0
Is that a REALLY good PC dressed up as her? I know most of the Scion's clothing can be equipped on the player, but Y'shtola looks like the real deal!

And Minfilla and Thancred can have each other... Y'shtola is mine! Mine you hear! Muwahahahaha!

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Originally Posted by Kyne_Lyons

http://i.imgur.com/kDDPmES.jpg

Sultana is alive, just very ill.

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It's called a cover-up.

Stopped reading on page 33 and I want to address something, if it was already mentioned, not sorry, but I want to say it. :D

People are saying that why did the other city states pull out of the banquet during the commotion but you have to remember that foreign involvement in a domestic problem might spun out a bigger war. Let's say Limsa and Gridania intervened in Ul'dahs coup and they do not succed on topling the monetarists (which they wouldn't having only a personal guard) you're going to spin a bigger war against the other nations and more reason to control the whole Nation of Eorzea.

Something else, people complaining about plot holes in jobs, gatherers and crafters storylines. Remember that the stories where implemented before 2.1 even rolled out, so timeline wise those stories are even before the Scions are even formed.

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Originally Posted by SecretCrowds

It's called a cover-up.

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Exactly. There is also another NPC, I don't remember which one says that the populace as well as officials are being fed lies to control the masses.

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

4) Lot of people said that their WoL was super neutral on his emotions of the events that happened on 2.55. Well that "problem" has been fixed on the Heavensward trailer. We cleary see that the default WoL showing his emotions and anger, and he is us. Just imagine that all he experienced but on us which tenicly is what happened lol.

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That did annoy me a lot and I hated my own character for her lack of emotion shown at almost any time during the whole sequence of events...the severe lack of emotional animations combined with the stupid nodding of head when told to do things that would pain the character to do or be opposed to doing yet did what was told with nod of the head and no emotion shown. I liked the story behind the events but I hated my character during them due to the lack of emotions shown and incompetence of the character during the scripted scenes.

It made me character look amazingly stupid, incompetent and soulless. Just straight faced nodding to leave every time someone supposed to befriended or cared about potentially gave their life to keep me alive and minfilia and even when parting with minfilia herself plus the gormless blank stares at so many of the surprises and betrayals. Out of the entire sequence of events, that annoyed me the most and as for the trailer...that is not my character plus people shouldn't have to go watch a trailer outside of the game to get the experience meant to be in game. They should just fix the lack of emotional animations issue in the game itself during that sequence of events.

On a side note I wonder what is going to happen with Urianger in so much as the effect will have on the primal unlocks at the waking sands during the next stages of the main plot. If he at some stage either becomes bad or due to main plot moves from there then would players still be able to chat to him about primals and unlock them or would SE auto-unlock all primal modes without the need to speak to him given at a certain stage the remaining primal unlocks became detached from the main plot and so did his character for that process.

As for Nanamo I am certain she is dead because even if she survived the poison the monetarists would not let her live and would finish the job so she would not become a thorn in their side later, the rumor she is alive being told to the common folk is just to prevent more anarchy while they consolidate their power but once have complete control they may have no need to placate the commoners. I hope she lives...but I don't think story wise the monetarists would have let her live even if survived the poisoning unless SE adds another element to the story in which she has information about something that they need to get from her before they kill her. In which case the monetarists would lead you and your allies to believe she died so would not have reason to try and rescue her and to the common folk told was incapacitated so they would have no reason to create more anarchy while they get that information from her but once got it they would certainly kill her and blame it on you claiming she succumbed to the illness from the poison.

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Originally Posted by VirusChris

Where did you take that screenshot of and how is Y'shtola there? o_0
Is that a REALLY good PC dressed up as her? I know most of the Scion's clothing can be equipped on the player, but Y'shtola looks like the real deal!

And Minfilla and Thancred can have each other... Y'shtola is mine! Mine you hear! Muwahahahaha!

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Cosplay. I believe she is 1 skin tone darker and her shoes are wrong, pants are darker
and don't forget! She has the eye-glass...thingy mabob.
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...C_Render_2.jpg
Good, cute and funny pic nontheless! ^^

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Originally Posted by Mugiawara

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Then I have to say that was a very good look-a-like there! And the Aetheryte Goggles Y'shtola has... yeah that would've been a dead giveaway that she's not Y'shtola, too bad the players can't get their own.

And how is the picture you've shown considered "funny"? Good and cute, most likely. But, funny? I don't see it.

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Originally Posted by Shyluv

Wow. Has Pokemon got more gorey since the original series?

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In the manga, it shows an Arbok getting sliced in half.

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Originally Posted by Naraku_Diabolos

In the manga, it shows an Arbok getting sliced in half.

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Not enough people have read Special. Shame more people don't know what they're missing.

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Originally Posted by Fenral

Not enough people have read Special. Shame more people don't know what they're missing.

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I need to get back to reading it some day, so far behind.

Well that is your own opinion, seeing that the WoL deafult showed some emotions it gave me relief. Since what happened to him, the same happened to us lol.

Btw guys I'm not sure if anyone asked this before. Did anyone notice that there is a traitor on the Temple Knights? Thats the reason why Iceheart was able to trespass the bridge and break the shield.

I was half expecting an ambush when I got there after seeing that cutscene with the traitor/spy Temple Knight

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Originally Posted by Hestern_Nestern

There are 56 pages of this thread and while I've read...a great deal of Anonymoose's thread (Revelations from Patch 2.55), I do not have the energy to read through 56 pages right now, just to see if anyone has posted the images I am about to post. That disclaimer aside, if you haven't seen them in a while, prepare to be salty with anger.

http://i.imgur.com/ZM3re2K.png

http://i.imgur.com/8xHaTR9.png

Emphasis on "My own arm". :mad:

This is after the instance battle with Roaille in the quest The Reason Roaille (Patch 2.4). I couldn't actually find the cutscene in the journal at the inn, but I found it on youtube.

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In fact, she were able to escape later. Guess who helped her. That speech were just to save appearance.

this is my tribute to 2.5.5 story ending, i made a small video/slideshow with my char in it, enjoy ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5V-PWc5Lzs

I just found a NPC in Ul'dah that saids

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...Speaking of the sultana, I am informed that she has taken ill. Let us pray for her swift recovery!

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Mimishu at the Gate of the Sutana in Ul'dah

So I don't think she is dead.

Which, again, can also be fabricated, given who the source of the info is coming from.

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Originally Posted by Bizzy

I just found a NPC in Ul'dah that saids

Mimishu at the Gate of the Sutana in Ul'dah

So I don't think she is dead.

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This doesn't mean anything. Nobody in their right mind would tell the general public that the Sultana was dead - there would be panic and maybe riots. If you were trying to take over a city, you wouldn't say "HA! I killed your queen! I rule now! Suck it!" you'd be smart about it and go "Oh no...the queen is deathly ill...Oh no...the queen passed away...what a horrible situation. I will step up to lead in this grievous time."
It could be that she's still alive and fighting it, but I feel it's more likely that it's a fabrication to keep the public calm.

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Originally Posted by Keydah

This doesn't mean anything. Nobody in their right mind would tell the general public that the Sultana was dead - there would be panic and maybe riots. If you were trying to take over a city, you wouldn't say "HA! I killed your queen! I rule now! Suck it!" you'd be smart about it and go "Oh no...the queen is deathly ill...Oh no...the queen passed away...what a horrible situation. I will step up to lead in this grievous time."
It could be that she's still alive and fighting it, but I feel it's more likely that it's a fabrication to keep the public calm.

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The monatarists should have taken lessons from this guy.

http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb2...6/6f/HANS2.png

I actually got bored last night and ran around all the cities talking to people and seeing their reactions to the events of the story, really most of the real info comes from the guild leaders, FC sergeants, adventurer's guild heads, a hand full of Ishgardians, and the few Crystal Braves that you can talk to, but the gist seems to be, that the Sultana's death has in fact been kept a close guarded secret from the general public, and those who know are either the people working for the Syndicate, or those few trusted people close to you (the above mentioned people) who have been informed by The Admiral, Seedseer, and, uh, the new little Flame Marshal(?) guy. Also interesting to Note that all Crystal Brave presence has been removed from Gridania and Limsa, while they still maintain a presence in Ul'Dah and, of course, Rev Toll.

And, on a totally random, unrelated note, is anyone else expecting the epic facepalm moment of Raubahn getting set up with a Magitek Arm?

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Originally Posted by Hestern_Nestern

http://i.imgur.com/ZM3re2K.png

http://i.imgur.com/8xHaTR9.png

Emphasis on "My own arm". :mad:

This is after the instance battle with Roaille in the quest The Reason Roaille (Patch 2.4). I couldn't actually find the cutscene in the journal at the inn, but I found it on youtube.

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Originally Posted by LalaRu

In fact, she were able to escape later. Guess who helped her. That speech were just to save appearance.

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That speech is also why I want to put a Fire through his head when all's said and done. Since I thought of myself as little more than a glorified sellsword his words really spoke to me. So to say that I'm...disappointed would be an understatement to say the least.

I just had an image of Raubahn getting his new arm, picking up a metal cup, crushing it and saying 'grovy'. (Evil Dead Reference) :P

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Originally Posted by Zophar

And, on a totally random, unrelated note, is anyone else expecting the epic facepalm moment of Raubahn getting set up with a Magitek Arm?

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I hope not.

The most I'm expecting from Raubahn is a special guest appearance in the next Deus Ex.

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Originally Posted by Leowilde

Was I the only one getting really strong Red Wedding wibes before that banquet? :p I'd cought on that some shit was gonna happen thanks to the forums, but not exactly what. Now I know. :I

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hahaha yeah, when the guard called Alphinaud, I was like "I have read enough Game of Thrones to see where this is going" xD

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Originally Posted by Bizzy

I just found a NPC in Ul'dah that saids

Mimishu at the Gate of the Sutana in Ul'dah

So I don't think she is dead.

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Finishing the CUL lvl 50 quest after completing 2.55 makes me think she's really alive ;). That was a bit of a story breaking shock! (slight joking here, but for real doing that CUL lvl 50 quest after finishing 2.55 made me raise a few eyebrows)

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Originally Posted by Shinji2787

Finishing the CUL lvl 50 quest after completing 2.55 makes me think she's really alive ;). That was a bit of a story breaking shock! (slight joking here, but for real doing that CUL lvl 50 quest after finishing 2.55 made me raise a few eyebrows)

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I only just started the DRG story (after finishing 2.55) and Estinien had no idea who the hell I was (even though we acknowledged each other in the 2.55 scene). I'm willing to simply call patch chronology and move on.

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Originally Posted by Shinji2787

Finishing the CUL lvl 50 quest after completing 2.55 makes me think she's really alive ;). That was a bit of a story breaking shock! (slight joking here, but for real doing that CUL lvl 50 quest after finishing 2.55 made me raise a few eyebrows)

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As there is a coverup going on in Uldah perhaps they have placed a look-alike on the throne for now and our characters play along with it so as not to rock the boat before it's time for action? Only way I can rationalize it lol.

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Originally Posted by AmalahRose

As there is a coverup going on in Uldah perhaps they have placed a look-alike on the throne for now and our characters play along with it so as not to rock the boat before it's time for action? Only way I can rationalize it lol.

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Except even Lolorito treats her like the real deal. In his internal monologue. Oops. Unless he's lying to himself?

I'm kind of surprised they didn't just slap all of the old quests in an Echo.

Seeing Nanamo during the Culinarian questline would have been no different than running around Ul'dah in 1.0 with Minfilia as a little girl.

Granted, we can just pretend that is what's going on, but polish like that is the kind of thing I'd expect from SE, or any major developer (who isn't Bethesda and instead content to lump that on the modding community).

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Originally Posted by Nalien

I'm kind of surprised they didn't just slap all of the old quests in an Echo.

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Considering the 1.0 MSQs happen as Echo flashbacks without us knowing... I'd say one line from Middy once we start the expansion can clear that up.

On the theory that Ilberd is Gaius, I just dont believe it. Maybe Ilberd thought that the strategy that Gaius used in his city-state was really good and did to Uldah.

I dont know I just really think Gaius is dead :p

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Originally Posted by Zordiak

On the theory that Ilberd is Gaius, I just dont believe it. Maybe Ilberd thought that the strategy that Gaius used in his city-state was really good and did to Uldah.

I dont know I just really think Gaius is dead :p

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Well Ilberd - pure garlean = not Gaius. Its pretty much obious xD
Besides he knew Cid and his father, long before Cid came to Eorzea, so he cant be, a 100% no lol