Ishgard Housing No Lottery For Wards

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Originally Posted by Puksi

It's an underhanded method to keep people subbed, they said it themselves when they wanted to claim "we aren't like those other MMOs". "Take a break for burnout" but only so long as the $$$ keeps rolling in, I feel so valued as a player, lmao.

Whichever player owns a plot, they invested time farming the gil, camping the site, and furnishing it, sometimes with mogstation items involved. I'm not going to hover around it like a vulture thinking "that should be mine". I'm going to wonder why this company and this successful game can't solve a problem that smaller "indie companies" have solved, no "please understand" required.

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I agree with you that the issues could/should be solved with such a large company.

I would ask why they don't instance housing like they do zones. Have instances 1,2 & 3 for each housing area. This would triple the number of houses available while still keeping the "neighborhood" feel a lot of people like to argue about.

My only assumption is that SE as a company does not give the FFXIV team enough funding to upgrade the equipment necessary to do so, but it is only an assumption on my part.

iirc, isn't Yoshida on the board of directors of Square-Enix? It just really feels like there is no effort to improve the situation because it keeps the subs going. Since Square has set a limit on the number of houses a player can have per account, they must have a pretty good guesstimate of how many houses would be required at maximum for the current playerbase--I mean, even before that limit, they were aware of what they were getting into. Maybe if they worried about servers instead of the possibilities of NFTs. :rolleyes:

In any case, it's frustrating to see the result is players thinking they are entitled to things that other players worked hard to get, especially considering lapses in subs often are often due to some kind of hardship. Hurricane Florence was my personal experience (our neighborhood was on TV with boat rescues, and my husband and I were in a shelter for a while because there were no vacancies anywhere in a reasonable distance), and I recall the time a hospital emergency cost someone their XIV house. But apparently that's just an opportunity to some, since asking for improvements is "beating a dead horse".

Just bring out phased housing for those who don't care about neighbours..

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Originally Posted by Puksi

It's an underhanded method to keep people subbed, they said it themselves when they wanted to claim "we aren't like those other MMOs". "Take a break for burnout" but only so long as the $$$ keeps rolling in, I feel so valued as a player, lmao.

Whichever player owns a plot, they invested time farming the gil, camping the site, and furnishing it, sometimes with mogstation items involved. I'm not going to hover around it like a vulture thinking "that should be mine". I'm going to wonder why this company and this successful game can't solve a problem that smaller "indie companies" have solved, no "please understand" required.

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This is true only under conditions:
- private house
- medium or large house
the items arent' lost, there is a npc in the ward where you can find the items of your former house.

- FC timer resets if any of the FC members enter the house.
- Small houses aren't a big problem. You can lose one, and in a few days you'll find another. For example yesterday, even with the demolition timer not going, I found a small plot in shiro.

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Originally Posted by Eraden

It is becoming increasingly apparent to me that some of the posters here in this thread are merely concerned about their own chances of getting a plot and have little or no concern about others. I will repeat, under the current availability of plots, the ONLY system that is fair for ALL is the lottery system. The only way forward to fairly increase the chances for everyone to get a plot is to introduce more housing.

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I mean yeah I'm worried about my own chances cause I've been holding onto gil for and looking forward to a shot at a large in Ishgard for literal years and it sounds like my own odds are much lower now than they would have been with first come first serve wards. And that sucks.

I have also been in the crowd wanting more or different housing for years too. There's no way for everyone to get a house at all, let alone the size and location they'd prefer, with the current system. I don't care about neighborhoods because they're not what I want a house for, and I almost never see any of my neighbors anyway. I've seen the small next to me swap to a new owner like six times since I've lived where I do as well. If I could have a large apartment in Ishgard and they added a way to do proper gardening inside, I'd drop my house for that right away.

I feel like it's unlikely they'll actually do anything other than keep adding more wards and calling it a day, which fair enough I guess, every game is gonna have their own approach to housing. Doesn't mean it doesn't suck when it's the kind of content I'd otherwise love to have free access to.

Rather than a FCFS free-for-all, they should have a FCFS for relocation-only then Lottery for relocation-only on one or two wards. If I recall correctly, when Shirogane opened, it was available for relocation only at the start then got opened up for general purchase later. This seems a fair compromise to me.

Other than those few relocation-only wards, make the rest lottery.

WHAT IF...


NFT housing?

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Originally Posted by Lecru

Now, why bring this up you ask? If you voice that you want a portion of housing to be First Come/First Server. Then you'll have an immediate chance of grabbing a house when the new wards drop. Instead of throwing your number in a gigantic pile.

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FFXIV housing has always been 'throwing your number into a giant pile.' First several times I tried for the house in the first come / first serve system, I crashed in the lobby, and that was it. It may have well just been a lottery.

Placard savage is a miserable experience and is an abominable game system. This is coming from someone who got their house eventually this way. No one should have to spend three days, eight hours a day as you've stated for a virtual house in game. Especially when the result is basically random, as no one can tell when the house actually goes up for sale, so it is not a measure of skill. It is a measure of who can no-life it harder.

Lottery may not be perfect, but its wild to suggest the existing system is somehow great.

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Originally Posted by Nyxn607

I would ask why they don't instance housing like they do zones. Have instances 1,2 & 3 for each housing area. This would triple the number of houses available while still keeping the "neighborhood" feel a lot of people like to argue about.

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The current ward system is just instanced housing areas without having instance in the name.

I hope they'll have some wards open for direct buying in 6.1. Like three for individuals and three for FCs and then look how it shakes out and adjust as needed.

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Originally Posted by Puksi

It's an underhanded method to keep people subbed, they said it themselves when they wanted to claim "we aren't like those other MMOs". "Take a break for burnout" but only so long as the $$$ keeps rolling in, I feel so valued as a player, lmao.

Whichever player owns a plot, they invested time farming the gil, camping the site, and furnishing it, sometimes with mogstation items involved. I'm not going to hover around it like a vulture thinking "that should be mine". I'm going to wonder why this company and this successful game can't solve a problem that smaller "indie companies" have solved, no "please understand" required.

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There needs to be a demolishing timer. If it doesnt exist house plots will keep building up and up and up. There are people who would buy a house and quit and you have a permanent house taking up server space permanently. Due to this desired plots will never be free either, imagine if you had free picking everyone picks the big house near the beach so you'll end up with 10k wards where everyone owns the same house, maybe several times because they want one on their alts too.