Letter to MR Yoshi: Why parses system is destroying the ffxiv world.

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Originally Posted by Hakuro89

It's funny you seem surprised that a thread demonizing parsers attracted Kisai to it. If anything I'm surprised it took this long for him to show up with a gallon of gasoline for this obnoxious grease fire of a thread.

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I'm just glad that the genuine article showed up. The diet Kisai shtick that OP was trying to pull had gotten a bit stale.

That's how you do genuine willful ignorance and raider demonizing, everybody.

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Originally Posted by Tiaque

Hate can be held easily even with a i310 while everyone else is using a i360. Their are factors involved that determines this, but I done it for the lulz against high parsing dpsers and still was able to go into tank dps stance to dps while holding threat.

Skill is more of a factor than ya think, dont knock it.

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Something tells me that dps was not something like a drg. You are not going to keep agro with a i310 wep if a drg has i360 unless they are super nice and use diversion, elusive jump, or have a ninja tossing band aids on the situation. I can very easily pull hate off tanks in dps stance. Do it all the damn time. And I can do it with tanks that can and do savage content so it is not about skill.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Everyone who doesn't like the site should explicitly optout of the site, and if people won't party with you for hiding parses, report them.
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Regarding FFLogs I believe it should be opt-in. Not opt-out. You actually have to register with the site to hide yourself from it. And i generally think it should work the opposite way. You should be hidden by default unless you register and opt-in.

There's been a few conversations going around about it breaching the new data protection and privacy laws that have been all over the news because it displays player information without there consent. How accurate that is i dunno I'm not a lawyer. But I do believe it should be an opt-in thing not an opt-out.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Nobody asked anyone in the thread to come to this thread. You can walk away without adding your 2 cents.

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Practice what you preach.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

There's been a few conversations going around about it breaching the new data protection and privacy laws that have been all over the news because it displays player information without there consent. How accurate that is i dunno.

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The data FFLogs has is the same data you can find publicly on the Lodestone—character name, server, jobs leveled to 70, and FC/Guild name, if applicable. I don’t think any of that would fall under data or privacy protection, since they’re available publicly elsewhere to start. And they aren’t exactly personal or sensitive in nature the way email address, real names, mailing/business addresses, and other personally identifying information are.

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Originally Posted by Tiaque

Hate can be held easily even with a i310 while everyone else is using a i360. Their are factors involved that determines this, but I done it for the lulz against high parsing dpsers and still was able to go into tank dps stance to dps while holding threat.

Skill is more of a factor than ya think, dont knock it.

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Hello. I’m an i368 BiS BRD that has ripped off of good tanks in current tank BiS (with and without a DRG in the party) while actively rotating my enmity dumps. I have also ripped off of lesser geared tanks sitting in their tank stance while doing the same thing...and then later on again when I have nothing to use. I may not be an orange-tier BRD, but I think I know my job well enough to say I’m fairly decent at it. At the least, I know well enough that I have netted 10k, 11k, and almost 12k openers if RNG is kind enough.

I don’t think you could hold aggro off of a decently geared and decently parsing DPS in i310 even if you were sitting in your tank stance, much less if you switched to DPS stance. Something tells me that those “high parsing dpsers” you had probably weren’t parsing that high.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

I'm objectively right about how the parsers work and the kind of damage it does to the game. If you don't see it as cheating, then you clearly don't enjoy playing games, and would be just as entertained by watching someone else play it on twitch.

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Nope.

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Originally Posted by Dzian

There's been a few conversations going around about it breaching the new data protection and privacy laws that have been all over the news because it displays player information without there consent. How accurate that is i dunno. But I do believe it should be an opt-in thing not an opt-out.

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Individual player consent in this case doesn't exist nor is it required. All of FFXIV belongs to SE and they are the only ones who do the consenting. Players have no say because none of FFXIV belongs to them not even the data on how much damage they do when they play.

As for opt-in instead of out thing, me personally I don't mind if they changed it, because they could simply make everyone Anonymous and still use the data to pool accurate statistics you just won't know who the player is if they haven't opted in, but you'd have to convince fflogs creator to do this.

But, in the end I also don't feel it is very hard to simply sign up for the site and hide the logs, it doesn't take much effort or time really.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

I'm objectively...

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Wrong, arrogant, misinformed, ignorant, stubborn. There are plenty of adjectives fitting this sentence, "right" is certainly not among them.

An absence of parsers isn't going to make Sigma Normal suddenly challenging. You conveniently keep ignoring the aforementioned the Phantom Train example. If both healers primarily heal, one of them will be objectively useless. The fight simply doesn't do enough damage to warrant two healers. A parser, or lack thereof, wouldn't change that. In fact, nobody even cares to run parsers for stuff like this because they're entirely brain dead. But please, example how I can have six vulnerability stacks against the first boss of Hell's Lid and still not even take 50% damage from his "tank buster." Or how about Chadarnook Normal, where I elect not to go into the plane yet survive with half my health. How would deleting parsers from the game change how laughably insignificant those mechanics are? They aren't going to magically become more threatening.

How about Alte Roite Savage? The boss hardcore raiders downed in two pulls or less. He was so pathetically easy for a Savage fight even casual groups took a single lockout to kill him. This is before triggers, Cactbot or any of the actual tools you keep incorrectly referring to were even available. People can't make timelines or triggers for a fight they don't even know. He was just that damn easy.

Threads like these are why I always come to the OF to popcorn while waiting for my code to run.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

Nobody asked anyone in the thread to come to this thread. You can walk away without adding your 2 cents.

I'm objectively right about how the parsers work and the kind of damage it does to the game. If you don't see it as cheating, then you clearly don't enjoy playing games, and would be just as entertained by watching someone else play it on twitch.

Yoshi-P is not going to make "harder" content because the content was not designed to be played with cheat tools. You want to cheat, later claim the game is too easy. Maybe quit using the tools and you'll see where the difficulty is supposed to be. If anything the content is getting watered down because the parser users are falling outside the bell curve.

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Hey hey, Kisai. If the game was so much better before parsers then how come ARR is widely panned as inferior to HW in terms of mechanical depth and gameplay? ARR 2.0 where the pinnacle of game design was "knocks you off a cliff XDDDDDDDDD"

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Originally Posted by AriaFairchild

Threads like these are why I always come to the OF to popcorn while waiting for my code to run.

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Isn't it wonderful? You see certain threads and you just know...

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