The Monk Temple

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Originally Posted by Rochetm

Unlikely to see any videos of people not dropping GL. "I never lose GL" translates roughly into "Sometimes I get lucky and don't lose it during some transitions."

As Easymode said there are far to much random crap going on for it to be anywhere near 100%. Those people are liars or don't know they are losing it.

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I agree, it all depends on where your rotation is on Jump. However over the past week, i have been experimenting, and barring the herat phase (i seriously think its impossible at this point to maintain GL3 there) with some luck the rest of the fight (excluding superbomb phase where everyone stacks to edge and then runs for cover from landslide) GL3 is maintainable. Again, it purely depends on where your ratation ended for this to work successfully but it can be done :) Though i totally agree, I cant see it possible to guarantee 100% GL3. Too many random factors involved. Just need the rub of the green :P

well on the heart phase if you kill him while the bombs drop just attack the center bomb to keep you're GL going I do it all the time works out well.

Could anyone notify what the current BiS is for Monks, including Extremes gear, pretty please ? thanks in advance :)

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Originally Posted by bokchoykn

Oblit is correct. He's not nitpicking the term RNG. It stands for "Random Number Generator". Phase transitions and Titan jumping is 100% completely predetermined. There is absolutely nothing "Random" about it.

The term "RNG" is often used in place of the word "Variance". It is a misnomer. Variance and RNG are completely different things and it's important not to confuse the two.

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This isn't a statistics class.

The time at which Titan jumps between fights varies depending on your group's DPS with addition breakpoints depending on animations. Unless you're going to simulate the normal transition spots and predict based on your group's DPS, it is, in fact, a bit random.

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Originally Posted by Rochetm

As Easymode said there are far to much random crap going on for it to be anywhere near 100%. Those people are liars or don't know they are losing it.

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With good luck on gaols and generally normal luck on transitions, a MNK can achieve close to 100%. Most regular mechanics Monks can deal with and still maintain GL. There is no landslide or bomb mechanic that should cause a drop in GL. With very high group DPS, a MNK can also maintain through a gaol, although it is iffy.

My comment was specific to phase transitions (and I had one yesterday where Titan transitioned, then paused, then re-did his last animation -- the total phase transitions was ~15 seconds -- try to maintain GL through that).

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Originally Posted by Sygmaelle

Could anyone notify what the current BiS is for Monks, including Extremes gear, pretty please ? thanks in advance :)

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Some threads on that point :

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...se-help!/page3
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-Best-Monk-Set

Some calculator for comparing stuff
http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/

I've seen some monks choose the Fuma Koromo over the Melee Cyclas. Is the +21 DET from the Fuma worth the -4 STR decrease?

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Originally Posted by mercenarri

I've seen some monks choose the Fuma Koromo over the Melee Cyclas. Is the +21 DET from the Fuma worth the -4 STR decrease?

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If you can use the accuracy from the cyclas (by dropping it somewhere else), then no.
If you can't and you will be overcapped, then yes.

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Originally Posted by Sygmaelle

Could anyone notify what the current BiS is for Monks, including Extremes gear, pretty please ? thanks in advance :)

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I have a couple of gear sets that I use for different contents. Here are the gear sets I currently have and proposed BiS in parethesis.

For contents outside of Coil:
Allagan Baghnakhs
Allagan Visor of Striking
Allagan Cuirass of Striking
Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
Hero's Belt of Striking (Allagan Tassets of Striking)
Allagan Trousers of Striking
Allagan Sollerets of Striking
Allagan Choker of Striking
Tremor Earring of Striking
Hero's Bracelet of Slaying (Allagan Bracelets of Maiming)
Allagan Ring of Maiming
Vortex Ring of Striking (Hero's Ring of Slaying)


For Coil:
Allagan Baghnakhs
Allagan Visor of Striking
Allagan Cuirass of Striking
Allagan Gauntlets of Striking
Hero's Belt of Striking (Allagan Tassets of Striking)
Melee Gaskins
Allagan Sollerets of Striking
Allagan Choker of Maiming
Allagan Earring of Maiming
Hero's Bracelet of Slaying
Allagan Ring of Maiming
Vortex Ring of Striking (Allagan Ring of Striking)



My proposed BiS for Coil only has 469 accuracy but I parsed T5 for over 50 hours and have never missed with 464 accuracy. If I want to add more accuracy I have Inferno Bangles of Striking for +5 extra accuracy or I can get a Melee Circlet. I want to believe 464 accuracy is not capped for T1-T5 but I just haven't seen a single miss. I've only seen misses when I forgot to switch from my town gear (410ish accuracy).

I've seen recent posts saying that Melee Cyclas and Melee Gloves are better than their Allagan counterparts becuase Cyclas has more accuracy and Gloves has 4 more Determination but I am not a fan of too much Skill Speed at a cost of other (more useful) secondary stats.

I missed an attack on Twintania with 471 acc. RNG is RNG.

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Originally Posted by EasymodeX

I missed an attack on Twintania with 471 acc. RNG is RNG.

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I agree but I haven't seen a miss at 464, what if hit rate really caps at 99.999%? That even if you have 485+ accuracy you can still miss? RNG is RNG.

I was thinking about getting Melee Circlet for +15 accuracy but it is hard to give up +15 Determination on 50+ hours worth of damage done without missing a single time. That +15 Determination could outweigh a single miss that I may encounter in the near future. Until I experience that single miss, I will stick to my gear set.