Hidden Artifacts is an Insult!

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Originally Posted by Zottan

Gaius Van Baelsar and Nael van Darnus are Ultima and Omega!!

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__...us_Concept.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ima_Weapon.png



http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__...van_Darnus.pnghttp://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__...ega_weapon.jpg

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That is trippy. It would make sense, I think, if I remember correctly, Ultima is weaker than Omega, and Gaius is said to be weaker than Nael.

Just don't put any of these bosses in an instance and I will be the happiest galka around. If they do to these whats been done to the primals I think maybe that will be all she wrote for me on playing this game. You can add all the cool mobs to a game you want (which we need! no arguing that) but if they do so in the manner of 8 person instanced combat with some crappy totum style drop mechanic, its still crap. Can't polish turd people.

The full Hidden Artifacts EN artwork has been revealed! Like I mentioned previously, stay tuned to Topics in the coming days for more Hidden Arts goodies! :)

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

The full Hidden Artifacts EN artwork has been revealed! Like I mentioned previously, stay tuned to Topics in the coming days for more Hidden Arts goodies! :)

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Bay... that's what I've been waiting for... Leave the Drakes to the kiddies... Time for the big boys to step up to a real Dragon

Looks amazing!
HNMs for 2.0 maybe :D

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

The full Hidden Artifacts EN artwork has been revealed! Like I mentioned previously, stay tuned to Topics in the coming days for more Hidden Arts goodies! :)

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Thanks for the reveal guys. Looks pretty freaking amazing, can't wait to get trampled by it.

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

Terrible Idea, it even contradicts itself.
-Open World = Dead in 10m as soon as its found. In the current game state its literally impossible to make any open world NM extremely strong because outside parties can now damage claimed mobs.

Think of how fast 1 WAR, 1 WHM, and 62 BLM (8 parties of 8) could destroy it; just think of how fast 5 BLM destroy garuda.

Even without my very very skewed example, people would still be able to zerg it with whatever they have.

This means guilds that have the most people (and probably are not the most skilled) will be the ones with the server first kills.

Unless how open world works changes; please leave all difficult bosses instanced.

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I dont know, really I like going with my LS to annihiliate SH bosses with multiple parties, even if parties have to alternate claim to get credit for it. So I'm game for open world situations.

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

Terrible Idea, it even contradicts itself.
-Open World = Dead in 10m as soon as its found. In the current game state its literally impossible to make any open world NM extremely strong because outside parties can now damage claimed mobs.

Think of how fast 1 WAR, 1 WHM, and 62 BLM (8 parties of 8) could destroy it; just think of how fast 5 BLM destroy garuda.

Even without my very very skewed example, people would still be able to zerg it with whatever they have.

This means guilds that have the most people (and probably are not the most skilled) will be the ones with the server first kills.

Unless how open world works changes; please leave all difficult bosses instanced.

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There was mention of a way, that is the only way I can see roaming nms working at this point. They basically have a spawn window and you would go up and take an action on it and it would take you into an instance where you fight it with your party. Kind of like an mmo take on a traditional RPG boss fight.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

The full Hidden Artifacts EN artwork has been revealed! Like I mentioned previously, stay tuned to Topics in the coming days for more Hidden Arts goodies! :)

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Yes, we were the first!!

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Originally Posted by Biggs

Just don't put any of these bosses in an instance and I will be the happiest galka around. If they do to these whats been done to the primals I think maybe that will be all she wrote for me on playing this game. You can add all the cool mobs to a game you want (which we need! no arguing that) but if they do so in the manner of 8 person instanced combat with some crappy totum style drop mechanic, its still crap. Can't polish turd people.

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I really wouldn't say putting them in instances is a bad thing. They just need to do something about drops where they don't suck.

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/423...ture101420.jpg

Is this the dragon on this? :O

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

The full Hidden Artifacts EN artwork has been revealed! Like I mentioned previously, stay tuned to Topics in the coming days for more Hidden Arts goodies! :)

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Whoa, since when do you guys post on weekends?

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

I really wouldn't say putting them in instances is a bad thing. They just need to do something about drops where they don't suck.

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MMO worlds are boring as is when everything exciting is either phased to you or in an instance. The only reason drops 'suck' is because everything is in an spammable instance, which is why the world spawn old "HNMs" still had for the lack of a better word, the 'best' drop system.

Yeah, tough luck posting on a weekend Bayohne. No one is bored at work and making snap judgements and poor assumptions, let alone feel like apologizing for making them.

Thanks for the great art and making me excited about a future battle.

Bayohne, if its the weekend, you must be alone in the office. Upload some pics of what Ishguard looks like on the inside ^^;

We won't tell anyone ;-x

Promise

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what is he ranting about?

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Originally Posted by Altanas

Bayohne, if its the weekend, you must be alone in the office. Upload some pics of what Ishguard looks like on the inside ^^;

We won't tell anyone ;-x

Promise

xxx

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^ This ... totally do it, Bay :D

Actually, I have been playing since the beginning, kthanks. The bot may have been popular with certain crowds, but that does not correlate with it being the path of the majority. Without actual evidence to back up your claim, you are merely engaging in hyperbole. Nothing more.

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Originally Posted by Answa

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/423...ture101420.jpg

Is this the dragon on this? :O

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Looks too serpentine to be the same.

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Originally Posted by Charismatic

Whoa, since when do you guys post on weekends?

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Bayohne is a ninja, he sneaked into the office, in the wee hours of the morning and waited for the most opportune time to post, then sneaked out again...

true story :D

On the open world HNM thing, they could put in place some of the old claim rules like claimers only being able to attack it - just for HNM (keep normal mobs as they are).

The current claim system would make HNMs too easy to steal, if you can attack them you just get hate and run them to the edge of their leashed area and they go yellow again when the AI makes them return to their territory.

If HNMs do get put in they should have no leash and wander entire zones!

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Originally Posted by MeeYow

On the open world HNM thing, they could put in place some of the old claim rules like claimers only being able to attack it - just for HNM (keep normal mobs as they are).

The current claim system would make HNMs too easy to steal, if you can attack them you just get hate and run them to the edge of their leashed area and they go yellow again when the AI makes them return to their territory.

If HNMs do get put in they should have no leash and wander entire zones!

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The best way to implement an open world HNM is having no such thing as claiming! Rewards are evenly split based on how much people contributed.
Of course, after a certain number of idiots- i mean- campers- I mean- people who want to help is reached the diluted rewards are totally not worth it any longer, this way people stop trying to camp :D

(i'm being full of hate here because I hate spawn campers)

This ain't the thread to be discussing HNM pops and claims but, I'll give my opinion on it: Think about Absolute Virtue from sea, Bahamut, or Pandemonium Warden, and Kirin. I think they should make it so we have to kill lesser NM's and get their key-items, and then pop the boss HNM when you gather all the key-items. When you pop the HNM the key-items will disappear so you'll have to farm the key-items again.

This method is a legit way that doesn't involve hours of idle camping. trigger pop ftw

look its Nidhogg everyone lol

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Originally Posted by Corrderio

I really wouldn't say putting them in instances is a bad thing. They just need to do something about drops where they don't suck.

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For fear this is totally off topic, I will keep this short. I Play MMO's to be part of a community, and an organic social experience in a virtual world. Constantly seperating that community in a way that allows for only small interactions with low numbers of people in a contained enviroment is (in my opinion) completely counter intuitive to the genre. I can't get the camping or safari experience I am looking for by going to the zoo, no matter how pretty and awesome they make the zoo look.

If I want instanced combat and questing I will go play Star Wars or Diablo 3.

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Originally Posted by MoonKeeperr

look its Nidhogg everyone lol

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Hrm! I do not bed on that being Nidhogg at all. Reason being is that it's yellow!
Might seem senseless but, yellow really brings about a feeling that it's elemental, same with blue and red enemies WILL make it look like it's ice or fire elemental! And given what i've seen of the Dragoon storyline (all of it) i'm a man that blieves that Nidhogg will be non-elemental. Or at the very, very minimum fire affinity.

http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...rtifact_09.jpg

equals...

MH Plesioth
http://images.wikia.com/monsterhunte...enPlesioth.jpg

[ Theorycraft ]

Each concept art is revealing one of several major NM's which represent one of four very different categories of Boss battles known in previous titles.

English - Yellow Dragon - Elemental Dragonkin [All]
Japanese - Behemoth - Overpowered Open World Bosses [All]
French - Ultima Weapon - Weapons [FFVII-FFXIII]
German - Axbeak? - Unknown

[ /Theorycraft ]

What about an Open World Boss that REQUIRES several parties to take down? All participating parties get a chance at a drop. If the mob survives, no one gets any chance at a drop. So rather than people trying to "claim" the HNM, it would be several parties organizing to defeat a boss that would be undefeatable by a single greedy party. This will also promote the idea of the more the merrier. So if you want a chance at a drop, join a participating party.

I've seen this implemented in f2p MMOs before to much success and they are fun as hell.

Those were world bosses that were scheduled to appear at certain times once a week. Everyone would get a message on screen (this could be done via npc linkshell amirite?) an hour and half an hour before the boss spawns. People can head to the spawn location and party up/prepare. All who participated had a chance to a drop. What made it even better was how fast the boss mowed down everyone. It literally required 50+ people to take down one of them.

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Originally Posted by Altanas

Bayohne, if its the weekend, you must be alone in the office. Upload some pics of what Ishguard looks like on the inside ^^;

We won't tell anyone ;-x

Promise

xxx

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The last time I asked for secrets I got led down the snurble hole :(

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Originally Posted by Rydin

http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/...rtifact_09.jpg

equals...

MH Plesioth
http://images.wikia.com/monsterhunte...enPlesioth.jpg

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Plesioth is just a giant walking hip with a broken hit box.

Can't wait to chase him in the water in Monster Hunter Tri G for the 3DS. How I have been patiently waiting for that day... Tonight... you... plesioth

Oh gods I hated plesioth so much... Soooooo much.


Broken hitbox doesn't even begin to describe it.

I wouldnt mind seeing these put in as open world trigger HNMs

http://zam.zamimg.com/ffxi/i/images/mobs/NM/Suzaku.jpg
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...352627&thumb=1

suzaku
im guessing that the en one would be faf or tiamat.
and then ultimate weapon, and last lolKingbehemoth

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Originally Posted by Zackaria

suzaku

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Yo, Suzaku!

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http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/a...5&d=1337367207

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https://fischfail.files.wordpress.co...ultima_ff7.jpg

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Ultima Weapon? I think so!

why is it taking so long for then to reveal the ultima looking one dammit

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

why is it taking so long for then to reveal the ultima looking one dammit

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Event runs till the 21st.

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

why is it taking so long for then to reveal the ultima looking one dammit

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It's the weekend. they're not exactly around during the weekend.

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Originally Posted by KoujiGeki

why is it taking so long for then to reveal the ultima looking one dammit

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Actually it seems their community is very small, the German and French one. I checked it, and it only has 2 pages worth of answers. In contrast the JP and EN go to 9-14 pages in a matter of days. It's possible that nobody has guessed it yet. You guys can help, just use Google Translator to translate question and post the answer lol.

German question:
What is Yoshi-P's favorite food?

French question:
What is the favorite monster of the FINAL FANTASY series by Naoki Yoshida?

Japanese question:
Yoshida of elementary school age person P had been longing or who will? (lol.)

I think this one is similar to our question "When Yoshi-P was in high school, what kind of job did he originally want to do?".

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Originally Posted by MrKupo

What about an Open World Boss that REQUIRES several parties to take down? All participating parties get a chance at a drop. If the mob survives, no one gets any chance at a drop. So rather than people trying to "claim" the HNM, it would be several parties organizing to defeat a boss that would be undefeatable by a single greedy party. This will also promote the idea of the more the merrier. So if you want a chance at a drop, join a participating party.

I've seen this implemented in f2p MMOs before to much success and they are fun as hell.

Those were world bosses that were scheduled to appear at certain times once a week. Everyone would get a message on screen (this could be done via npc linkshell amirite?) an hour and half an hour before the boss spawns. People can head to the spawn location and party up/prepare. All who participated had a chance to a drop. What made it even better was how fast the boss mowed down everyone. It literally required 50+ people to take down one of them.

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I suggested something similar here:

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Originally Posted by Rydin

13. Will there be any new content that unites the entire server?
Recently, many servers have gotten enough people together to defeat one of the epic "Guardian's of the Grove." It would be cool if there was an area that was off limits until a certain super NM was killed. An NM bigger and stronger than the turning leaf trees (Requiring 100+ players to defeat it). So the entire server could get together and kill it, then everyone could reap the benefits of the unlocked area. The Super NM could respawn (And relock the area) every 10 days and need to be killed again!!!!

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