Revelations from Patch 5.3

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

I'm suspecting that

that's going to be the final stage of the Ishgard Restoration, fixing up The Brume.

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I was pleasantly surprised by this, as well. I didn't think we'd ever see any change there, but now it's looking like a possiblity...

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

I was pleasantly surprised by this, as well. I didn't think we'd ever see any change there, but now it's looking like a possiblity...

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I would like to know, did the actual Foundation map for players change upon completing the quest? I honestly didn't notice myself.

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Originally Posted by MrThinker

I would like to know, did the actual Foundation map for players change upon completing the quest? I honestly didn't notice myself.

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They added scaffolding to the wall near the main aetheryte. And the guy who will train the airship pilots is standing by the location they picked out in the quest.

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Originally Posted by Kesey

They added scaffolding to the wall near the main aetheryte. And the guy who will train the airship pilots is standing by the location they picked out in the quest.

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But are the scaffolds scalable? if they are, it means that they are committing to actual changes that may expanded upon.

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Originally Posted by MrThinker

But are the scaffolds scalable? if they are, it means that they are committing to actual changes that may expanded upon.

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No. You can only look at it atm.

The walkable terrain hasn't changed, and even if they do go all-out, I'm guessing it never will - simply because folks pre-Stormblood would still need to see the damage and it would be wierd to see other adventurers walking in areas that appear to be destroyed. If the area is actually repaired, the impassable areas will likely have walls or shrubberies or something to keep them impassable.

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Originally Posted by LineageRazor

The walkable terrain hasn't changed, and even if they do go all-out, I'm guessing it never will - simply because folks pre-Stormblood would still need to see the damage and it would be wierd to see other adventurers walking in areas that appear to be destroyed. If the area is actually repaired, the impassable areas will likely have walls or shrubberies or something to keep them impassable.

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Yeah, that's the way they always do it when things in the world visibly change - it won't alter where you can access, or new arrivals will see people walking on air and through walls.

They might switch out objects but they won't add new ground unless they add it to the ruined version as well.

Did Alisaie ever mention anything about the aether-repairing treatment they were using on Halric and the other sin eater victims possibly offering hope to the tempered?

The thought suddenly crossed my mind after seeing the new MSQ picture on the 5.4 teaser website, which has her looking a little shaken up about something in Limsa Lominsa...which I assume to be related to her kobold friend.

Patch 5.4 artwork is out https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/shado...ers/patch_5_4/ and there's a sneaky pic there

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...00/unknown.png

I'm not confident enough to start 5.4 speculation thread...

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Originally Posted by Erendis

Tbh, at this point I'd rather have Lahabrea yet again, than continue with Zenos...

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Hope the other part comes true too...

Just noticed another one. Edit: Just got a better look on PC and looks like it's just Gaia's neck...

Here's my theory on Lahabrea in the art: he's still trapped in Thordan's sword but he's not dead. He breaks out, which causes an explosion or spooky darkness stuff or something to happen at Azys Lla where the sword was left, which the Vanu Vanu notice, which is why one is in Ishgard - he came to warn us weird stuff is happening at Azys Lla.

I can see Lahabrea being involved in Eden. Maybe he created it?

In Academia Anyder, we find out that Lahabrea and his crew were experimenting with Guardian Forces. While we don't know the origin of Eden in FFXIV yet, we at least know that it was inspired by FF8s Eden which was a Guardian Force.

Perhaps one of the ideas he had in a worst case result was to having people leave the planet aboard Eden to find a new home? Would explain Eden's Terraforming abilities, and would be a unique kind of irony for Eden to be a force planned to be used for good originally, only to end up being used for evil.

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

Perhaps one of the ideas he had in a worst case result was to having people leave the planet aboard Eden to find a new home? Would explain Eden's Terraforming abilities, and would be a unique kind of irony for Eden to be a force planned to be used for good originally, only to end up being used for evil.

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Ah, you know what? Perhaps that's how Lahabrea, Emet-Selch, and Elidibus escaped the Sundering. They were on a spaceship in orbit over Hydaelyn, so they weren't divided into 14 pieces like everyone else on the planet was.

That, or they were on the moon.

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Originally Posted by Erendis

Patch 5.4 artwork is out https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/shado...ers/patch_5_4/ and there's a sneaky pic there

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...00/unknown.png

I'm not confident enough to start 5.4 speculation thread...



Hope the other part comes true too...

Just noticed another one. Edit: Just got a better look on PC and looks like it's just Gaia's neck...

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That is Lahabrea's mask but not his typical robe(he has always had black) so either we are looking at a past Lahabrea or an ascended Lahabrea taking on the role of emissary now that Elidibus is sealed.

This artwork is about Eden just like 4.2's artwork was about Omega so likely to be that Lahabrea is involved with the purpose of Eden thus we would be dealing with a past version of him.

This is just a theory but perhaps we fight this past version of Lahabrea at the height of his power before he went coocoo for Zodiark but anything more than that would be very wild speculation at this point.

Don't know, looks to me as if the general style of the Artwork makes it hard to see, but the robes seem more black than white (don't make me start a dress discussion).

The only information I want to get out of this...

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Originally Posted by Anonymoose

10. Could we please learn the true name of Lahabrea? Finding out Emet-Selch's true name was absolutely awesome and a great reveal, so it'd be fantastic if we could figure out who Lahabrea was.

Yoshida: (Holding his arms up in an X and shaking his head) NEXT!

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Did Alisaie ever mention anything about the aether-repairing treatment they were using on Halric and the other sin eater victims possibly offering hope to the tempered?

The thought suddenly crossed my mind after seeing the new MSQ picture on the 5.4 teaser website, which has her looking a little shaken up about something in Limsa Lominsa...which I assume to be related to her kobold friend.

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Yes she mentions it if you speak with her manually during the MSQ as one of her side conversations, so it is easy to miss.

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Originally Posted by RicaRuin

Don't know, looks to me as if the general style of the Artwork makes it hard to see, but the robes seem more black than white (don't make me start a dress discussion).

The only information I want to get out of this...

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My speculation is that Lahabrea's true name is Mateus.
The obvious indication is the counterpart scion from XII, but more than that, Lahabrea is known for his arrogance and overreaching, he apparently invented Ifrit as an Amaurotine, so there's an allusion to his role as the lord of hell and his ability to wield hellfire.

In addition, he was closely linked to Igeyorhm the Martyr, who I expect may be... Ultimecia, of whom Gaia may be a 'shard' of as she was a sundered Ascian. So who knows, we may be getting two 'true names' out of Eden.

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Originally Posted by RicaRuin

Don't know, looks to me as if the general style of the Artwork makes it hard to see, but the robes seem more black than white (don't make me start a dress discussion).

The only information I want to get out of this...

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Looking at the entire artwork, Lahabrea's robe is deliberately more lighter in colour, it is lighter than Ryne's hair, Gaia who wears black is far darker than Lahabrea, also his mask is darker than his hood whereas Ascian Lahabrea had the opposite his mask was lighter.

This isn't the same Lahabrea we have dealt with previously, perhaps it is Lahabrea in his Amaurotine robes before Zodiark became a thing but that artwork really does highlight him, even if he isn't center stage.

So, this is more for 5.4, but...holy crap, the new Trial for the Weapon trials is Castrum Marinum. Aka CAPE WESTWIND. You know who that means is coming as the 2nd phase!

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

So, this is more for 5.4, but...holy crap, the new Trial for the Weapon trials is Castrum Marinum. Aka CAPE WESTWIND. You know who that means is coming as the 2nd phase!

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I can't believe we meme'd hard enough to make it happen.

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Originally Posted by RicaRuin

I can't believe we meme'd hard enough to make it happen.

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Now all shall know the true terror of the hardest boss!

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

Looking at the entire artwork, Lahabrea's robe is deliberately more lighter in colour, it is lighter than Ryne's hair, Gaia who wears black is far darker than Lahabrea, also his mask is darker than his hood whereas Ascian Lahabrea had the opposite his mask was lighter.

This isn't the same Lahabrea we have dealt with previously, perhaps it is Lahabrea in his Amaurotine robes before Zodiark became a thing but that artwork really does highlight him, even if he isn't center stage.

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I wouldn't take the artwork as proof of colour. It could be deliberately faded out so it doesn't stand out at a glance or break Gaia's silhouette.

I also wouldn't judge the colour off the light part of the hood, any more than Gaia has white splotches on her sleeve. It's just catching the light to make it stand out more.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

I wouldn't take the artwork as proof of colour. It could be deliberately faded out so it doesn't stand out at a glance or break Gaia's silhouette.

I also wouldn't judge the colour off the light part of the hood, any more than Gaia has white splotches on her sleeve. It's just catching the light to make it stand out more.

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I posit this question then, why is Lahabrea's mask the only bit with colour besides the two center stage Ryne and Gaia?

His mask alone would've been enough to convey it was Lahabrea so it is a stylistic choice to colour him in.

The artist deliberately added colour to him, black could very easily have been there, All other bits surrounding the girls are faded and are much more monotone in colour, the artist added colour to the parts they want you to focus on and Lahabrea is one such bit, colour was intentionally used and not using black for signature Ascian robing is something the artist wanted to convey.

Don't know about you but Lahabrea has taken more of my attention than Ryne and Gaia XD

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Originally Posted by RyuDragnier

So, this is more for 5.4, but...holy crap, the new Trial for the Weapon trials is Castrum Marinum. Aka CAPE WESTWIND. You know who that means is coming as the 2nd phase!

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Now I find it extra silly that the Eozean Alliance just let the Garleans sit pretty in that castrum instead of, y'know, securing or destroying it to make sure they don't use it as a potential staging point for future attacks/invasions.

They already mentioned what happened with Ruby Weapon was a design defect so even if it does activate Oversoul (Gaius did specifically mention he wanted to disable it somehow to prevent more needless deaths), nothing drastic is going to happen. I'm expecting it's just going to use Eir Tarne Storm as its phase transition move then we'll be dealing with its powered-up mode with the shoulder cores and laser spam in phase 2.

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

Now I find it extra silly that the Eozean Alliance just let the Garleans sit pretty in that castrum instead of, y'know, securing or destroying it to make sure they don't use it as a potential staging point for future attacks/invasions.

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I have a feeling the Alliance already secured it but are leaving it up so the Garland Ironworks would have access to the tech inside.

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Originally Posted by Crushnight

I posit this question then, why is Lahabrea's mask the only bit with colour besides the two center stage Ryne and Gaia?

His mask alone would've been enough to convey it was Lahabrea so it is a stylistic choice to colour him in.

The artist deliberately added colour to him, black could very easily have been there, All other bits surrounding the girls are faded and are much more monotone in colour, the artist added colour to the parts they want you to focus on and Lahabrea is one such bit, colour was intentionally used and not using black for signature Ascian robing is something the artist wanted to convey.

Don't know about you but Lahabrea has taken more of my attention than Ryne and Gaia XD

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I don't see how showing colour in the mask directly ties into whether or not the "white" parts of the hood are really white or just black lit up for contrast.

Again, Gaia - very confirmably dressed in black, and with black hair, as shown in colour on the main image - is illustrated with large "white" patches on her hair and clothes. Nobody is reading those white patches as actually there - it is clear from the context that they are just intense lighting highlighting the folds and creases.

So if the white bits on Gaia are not really white, why should the white on Lahabrea's hood be proof that he's wearing white?

I think both look to have a very similar approach of stark white highlighting on a dark object.

https://img.finalfantasyxiv.com/lds/...r1QIn_uxL8.jpg

The 5.4 MSQ bits from the trailer are...interesting to say in the least.

The thing I'm most curious about are those strange floating structures that appear to be Mhachi architecture and are likely related to the primal/beast tribe shenanigans going on.

I'm half-expecting them to be some kind of aether condenser that's making it much easier for primal summonings to take place by ramping up the levels of ambient aether in the areas the beast tribes dwell in.

If that's the sort of stuff Fandaniel has knowledge of/access to for his "preparations", there's no telling how ugly things are going to get as we move to and through 6.x.

From what all I've seen...

It looks like there's going to be tempered in Ala Mhigo, meaning whatever is happening is possibly happening near the Ghimlyt Dark. We will be seeing what looks like an almost Bahamut creature (maybe one of the missing dragons?) we possibly have to fight, Ravana/Gilgamesh in Eden's Promise, along with a Cloud of Darkness fight, the possibility of an Ultimecia fight (take away your memories she says), the sister from Weapon trials being taken away, Zenos breaking what looks like his own sword he used, Zodiark, and much more. Things are about to get heavy, and we have no clue where we're going at this point. It's definitely leading up to the "series finale" for the Zodiark/Hydaelyn plot.