Adding Legacy Tattoo to Mog Station

No. I'm not a legacy player (only tried the 1.0 beta, was enough of a dumpster fire for me) and I still think we shouldn't get it. It's part of both the devs' thanks and apology to those who stuck with a genuinely bad product and supported them enough to be able to make ARR. You weren't there, you did not participate. It's only coveted because everyone can't have it. Don't be greedy, man.

Maybe they'll release another tattoo for everyone but that? It's LITERALLY not for us.

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

No.........

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A 7 year necro? Seriously?

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Originally Posted by Dererk

NO NO NO NO A THOUSAND TIMES NO.

No way will this happen you can have the moon earing you can even have the friking goobie.

Leave our tattoos along.

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You say no... but the cash says... "perhaps. :^)"

Legacy gang

Oh, the drama!

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Originally Posted by Atreides

I'd welcome it, my account is older than most but I wasn't able to actively play the game during the time period of the legacy campaign so here's a 2011 player that has no legacy tattoo because of rl circumstances lmao....

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im the same. i played some but i couldnt commit to the (terrible) game due to being in the military. i still dont think it should be in the mog station.

however, i do think other tattoos should be added to the game (and not mog station) as that would satisfy most people. and.. not to faces either.

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Originally Posted by Lihtleita

maybe instead ask the devs to make other tattoos attached to big ingame achievements
like world firsts, ranked pvp or ocean fishing

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I think I it would be neat to have more tattoos you can get in the game, but I think more limited ones is a bad idea. Ones you earn for ocean fishing, or leveling every combat job to 100 next expansion, or whatever? Those are fine; people can still earn them 3 years later if they want them. Stuff like world-first clears, or anything with a permanent cap on how many can ever get it? That’s a recipe for disappointment and resentment.

But FFXIV’s phoenix-like rebirth from the ashes of the flaming wreckage that was 1.x is an event that is unique in the world of MMOs, and it is in large part due to the loyalty of the 1.x players who supported the game even when it was a disaster—who believed it could be something more and stuck with it—that made it possible for SQEX to actually make that rebirth a reality and bring this game into existence.

The reason I think this is the exception to my “I hate when companies do things you can only get at a certain time and then never again” rule is because it’s basically an exception to everything. The circumstances are so unique, I really think that for once a company is fully justified in giving a special, unique, once-only thank you to the players involved.

Even if, sure, I wish I had the perks on this account.

I actually think there is some middle ground here that can make the legacy tatoo more relevant for those who have thier original accounts, still and a way to make the WoL more representative to being a member of the scions for those who don't have a legacy account.

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

No.........

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Why did you dig up and respond to a thread from 2105 with this?

i wanna be able to use my tattoo on my alts and not just my main :(

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Originally Posted by Teppie

I already have mine, I was there too playing a struggling game because I wanted this game to succeed as you put it. I'm not sure that new players who want it only because it's exclusive. It IS a very plot relevant marking, also if new players did get it... it wouldn't by nature of that fact be exclusive anymore and I'm sure people who wanted it before would still be just as eager.

http://i.imgur.com/VNkzkbU.png

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It is only plot relevant to those that were there in 1.0. It signifies that our character was one of the ones Louisoix saved at the cost of his own life. Anyone that didn't play in 1.0 is a new Adventurer that becomes the WoL. Those that were in 1.0 reappear and take that role. The tattoo should remain exclusive to 1.0 people.

As a self-proclaimed 1.0 Historian ("Historian", because I didn't actually experience it. lol) I would love to have that tattoo made available so that I could use it on one of my alts... but also that same "Historian" in me also says that, given what it represents, having actually legit experienced the 7th Umbral Calamity and all, I think they should be allowed to keep their exclusives. If they do make it available in some way, they should call it a "replica" and make it a different color or something, but not actually the same one. Or, like others have suggested, make several different designs of tattoos available that can be put in the same place for those who want them.

And also maybe consider having alternate, 'non-tattoo' versions of clothing items that come with tattoos by default (looking at you, Skyworker's Singlet. lol).

A very hard no from me (and I don't have the tattoo myself)

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Originally Posted by Darkstride

Why did you dig up and respond to a thread from 2105 with this?

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I know that was a typo and you meant 2015, but I had to laugh at the mental image of someone managing to dig up a thread and necro it 83 years *before* it got written.

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Originally Posted by DreameR7g

It's exclusive because we are the players who stuck by SE when XIV was a struggling game. We paid money for XIV back when the game wasn't even good enough to be paying money for. We earned our stripes because we didn't want XIV to fail and thus SE to go down with it.

Too bad, so sad for the new players who are just now coming onto the XIV bandwagon. If you wanted it so bad, you should have played 1.0. The new players that want it, only want it because it IS exclusive and special. Too late.

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Wait wait wait, you think Square Enix itself was gonna tank with 1.0?! A little far, methinks. They've never been that imperiled as a company.

How about we get new tattoos. Heck, if we want more exclusivity, make it for those that participated in the height of certain eras of the game. If you were registered in A Realm Reborn, you could get a reborn like tattoo. Maybe a phoenix. Heavensward would give a dragon. Stormblood would give a.. uh.. storm?! XD, Shadowbringers would be an Ascian like tattoo, and Endwalker would be something related to the cosmos.

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Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai

Wait wait wait, you think Square Enix itself was gonna tank with 1.0?! A little far, methinks. They've never been that imperiled as a company.

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It was actually quite heavily implied at the time that it was a major issue.

https://www.gameskinny.com/ouu6f/final-fantasy-xiv-and-square-enix-a-company-reborn

Here's an actual report on the matter.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

It was actually quite heavily implied at the time that it was a major issue.

https://www.gameskinny.com/ouu6f/fin...company-reborn

Here's an actual report on the matter.

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Hmm. Maybe they should have.

https://i.imgur.com/KqqWu0h.gif

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

It was actually quite heavily implied at the time that it was a major issue.

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I remember when their financial losses seemed to be just endlessly mounting, some gaming sites had people speculating about who might buy the Final Fantasy franchise IP from Square-Enix... and while many folks were dismissive of the idea, there was definitely that little nagging background thought that it wasn't entirely far-fetched they might have to do exactly that. (In some alternate timeline, imagine Electronic Arts buying the IP, and what that version of Final Fantasy XV would've looked like...)

I mean, being fair, it was not solely FFXIV 1.x tanking in spectacular fashion that was responsible for the dire state of SQEX at the time; FFXIII was equally disappointing to many people (to some, even more disappointing), and if I recall right FFXI had bled many players to more modern MMOs. So basically everything was not landing well with players right then. But as improbable as that might seem now with SQEX being this massive behemoth of a company, 1.x being such a disaster definitely had the potential to be the final nail in SQEX's coffin.

I am not joking when I say "the rebirth of this game is something unprecedented in the MMO community, and that it happened is at least in part due to the playerbase that said 'We know this is broken, janky, and just plain Not Good, but we believe it can be something more... and we're going to stick around while you try to make it that'."

Helluuuuuuuuuu

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Originally Posted by MonteCristo

No.........

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Let me necro this shit

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Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai

Hmm. Maybe they should have.

https://i.imgur.com/KqqWu0h.gif

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No one's forcing you to play it. If you think the game is so bad SE should have gone bankrupt, well, that speaks more on you than it does on them doesn't it....

No.

/10char

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

No one's forcing you to play it. If you think the game is so bad SE should have gone bankrupt, well, that speaks more on you than it does on them doesn't it....

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Not really. I think everyone should go bankrupt, including myself. It would make life slightly less boring. There IS a reason I posted Fandaniel of all people.

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Originally Posted by Kaliesto

Alternatively, I think it would be better if we all got special tattoos depending where we started in FFXIV.

For me its Stormblood, Stormblood special tattoo would be cool.

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If people would riot for not having tattoo, at most this should be solution. With choice to hide it, pls.

naw, we put in our time...struggled through poor UI, abysmal story and all lousy voice acting, we earned that tattoo. It's like a "thanks for sticking with us." Badge of honor ;)

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

No one's forcing you to play it. If you think the game is so bad SE should have gone bankrupt, well, that speaks more on you than it does on them doesn't it....

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You're right. That sort of mentality helped WoW and it will only help XIV! lmao

This gives me the same vibes as people asking for Excalibur Prime on Warframe

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Originally Posted by Raoabolic

You're right. That sort of mentality helped WoW and it will only help XIV! lmao

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Even during 1.0 when the game was utter garbage no one wished SE would go bankrupt.


That's a terrible take.

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Originally Posted by Restonance

This gives me the same vibes as people asking for Excalibur Prime on Warframe

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My own position on this notwithstanding -- I think I've expressed it at sufficient length in this thread already -- I don't think this is quite a fair comparison.

Yes, Excal Prime is a founder perk, meaning you got it from buying a founder's pack when Warframe launched. However, it is far from the only Prime frame available in the game, and normal Excalibur is certainly available to anyone. (Yes, minus the Prime skin and the Death Orb passive, I know, but still.)

As much as I don't think the legacy tattoo should be obtainable in any other way, I do think part of the issue is people who aren't going specifically "I want that tattoo" but "I want a tattoo, preferably somewhere that's not my face". Any other non-facial tattoo in the game is part of a piece of clothing; it's only there when wearing that top or those sleeves or whatever. As such, the legacy tattoo is currently the only option there for a non-facial tattoo that's part of the character, and I think that's at least half of why many people want it.

It'd be the equivalent in Warframe of Excal Prime not being just a founder perk in Warframe, but being the only Prime in the entire game. And I can only imagine the threads and discussions and general internet-posting-rage you'd get if that were the case. (Or, as Space Mom might say, "Tenno, sensors indicate the infestation has corrupted all life here.")

I don't have this 1.0 tatoo and even i disagree with this idea of puting legacy itam in the mog store

how ever i could agree with maybe adding a completely different tattoo for players