I would believe it, I only tried wow because my brother begged me to go tank for his crap guild, they had maby 2 people who could get out of the fire and I ditched them within days of joining.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinigamiKayla
Yet when people win the content because of DBM, they think they are good, when in fact, they are "slow", it takes away from the game, it allows tunnel vision, its easy-mode. People who can remember these things without a DBM-like crutch are the people who deserve the rewards, rewarding "slow" people (which increases subs/$ made) so i get it, is a "newer mmo" trend.
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09-26-2012, 08:50 AMJeronlmo
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09-26-2012, 08:54 AMShinigamiKayla
but then it holds back the person who cannot dedicate a ton of hours to a game a working person who has a fulll sched what of them? should they be out of content because they are stuck running with scrubs when they get the chance... content should be hard but not to hard that the common gamer... the ones who really support a game... yeh go figure full on hardcore end gamers are not the main ones who play a game usually they are like 30% if any of the player base... the common gamer who pays 15 dollars a month to play and does not get to do the content because they cannot keep on par because either busy and cant dedicate time to learning...
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09-26-2012, 08:59 AMRuisuWe should get rid of Relics and Darklight then, those are crutches. So are double melds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Preypacer
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09-26-2012, 09:07 AMJeronlmoShould just delete all code in the game, its a crutch, blank screen ftw. Just use your imagination.Quote:
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09-26-2012, 09:08 AMJeronlmoThere really is no nice way to say it, but if people put in more time than you, they should get more, I have a full-time job, I have family, that doesnt mean the game should be nerfed because of me, you should never be on-par people that endlessly play, thats just rediculous, this same argument was used in 11 but thank god it didnt have official forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by ShinigamiKayla
People that play less have access to 100% content, your rl might stop/hold you back, but thats your choice, how is that fair to hold back every other person that plays the game to your lvl basically. In 11 I started playing when I was 12, I did nothing but casual ls's (excluding my sky ls) until 4yrs later, I didnt know anything about endgame until then, I just didnt see it in day-to-day game play, it wasnt thrown in your face and I was happy with what I had. If your a casual player, you should accept this and what you can accomplish in a given day, you can learn stratagy by watching video's if you have less play time, read guides.
Ive seen so many people on FF14 that refuse to even look at a guide or watch a video, its just pothetic, its something so simple to do, but they actually rely on people to tell them what to do mid-run, endgame ls's atleast imo are not for training, its for doing endgame.
This new idea of "I pay the same sub as you should I should be able to do anything at any time" is complete BS, even in 11 people paid the same sub and all had access to all content, it was the drive/dedication to get to the content that kept people away. -
09-26-2012, 09:10 AMRuisuWELL, IF MY AN IDIOT. THEN YOUR A DENSE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeronlmo
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09-26-2012, 09:12 AMPromethevs
should get rid of filtered combat logs while you're at it, they're obviously telling you what to do, and are thus bots.
you get about as much added value information from "You are taking damage from fire! That might not be good." as you do from "The air around Garuda begins to warp and bend" -
09-26-2012, 09:22 AMJeronlmo
You really dont see a difference from something thats default in the game, and player-made addons (bots) that actually tell you want to do (get out of the fire)?
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09-26-2012, 09:23 AMPromethevs
you don't know that you're supposed to get out of fire? are you really being told what to do?
from my perspective it looks like it's largely a matter of presentation.
and even if it weren't a matter of only presentation (if you are indeed getting some kind of hints), where would the value added data come from? from another player.
how would they find out? from testing without the aid of the addon. it amounts to essentially the same thing as you watching a video and reading a guide, finding out what every text cue means, and then reading the combat log. same story, different presentation.
and in the end, you can choose not to use it. you can also choose not to watch guides. if your ls doesn't like it, you can choose to join a ls that doesn't care. just as you can choose not to filter or read your filtered combat log, and join a ls that doesn't care that you do this. it's really the same situation as you have now, with the separation of a difference in presentation -
09-26-2012, 09:37 AMXatsh
Dungeon finder is for the crappy players who no one wants to play with in their party.
IF players are too lazy to figure out a strat or do research to figure out a fight from community knowledge... they are the people who completely fail to begin with.
Baby hand holding needs to be removed... casual who cannot take the time to figure out a hard fight and cry need to just be told to leave the game. It is add ons like this that ruin mmos, and it forces the devs to develop content with it in mind.