It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

In RL I could look away from you or walk away. In the game I may be forced to do a dungeon with you and look upon you. I guess the crux of it again is, obviously this feature is not possible in RL, but an MMO is all about player choices is it not? We can't turn on the profanity filter to silence someone IRL either, but we can do it here. I still don't see how it hurts you just because you can't display your glamour choice for every single person in the game.

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Yes, we call this third person also something you would hopefully notice before purchasing. And still you can walk away sir, you can zoom in on yourself, change the angle, you can leave the instance. No one but yourself is stopping you from doing any number of these things.

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Originally Posted by kujoestars

And most NPCs don’t react to what species you are so I can traipse all over Eorzea as a giant purple lizardman with no one so much as batting an eye despite the fact Auri are almost never seen in Eorzea. Even factoring in Au Ra not being in ARR, the fact Yugiri was trying to minimize showing her actual species still says a lot about how unusual it is.

It is exceedingly rare to have race acknowledged period, whether it’s logical or not (Raen and majority of Xaela NPCs treat PCs the same as any other race, even though logically with the latter at least there should be some familiarity but apparently there’s only 2 or 3 that give special dialogue to Xaela players). As such, the only reason NPCs don’t react to completely silly glams is simply because how the heck would you even code recognition of ridiculous glams? Actually, try defining “ridiculous glams” to a parser of all things. It’s not worth the effort to code in and so NPCs are blind to it.

No one comments on Jandelaine’s more major changes either even though Aesthetician is definitely canon. No one’s going to comment on what you did to your hair (even if it’s the giant pomp in some crazy color) or any facial plastic surgery you do.

I stand by that glamours are canon simply because they are at least somewhat acknowledged just like Jandelaine is acknowledged. I actually like that this game incorporated them into lore instead of simply making them “just is” like WoW’s transmog system.

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Jandelaine was handled way better than the glamours were. Even if no-one reacts to your hairstyle having him around is a unique, in world way to update your appearance whereas glamours were basically just "hey, this thing exists, now you can do it." I would have much preferred it to have been added as just a feature as opposed to trying to shoehorn it into some kind of in-world thing that way. That's what sparks these kinds of "debates" as to what is considered real to the world and what is just a feature to use. If glamours would have been implemented similar to how Jandelaine was it would make more sense. Something like the sylphs wanted express their gratitude for all the help you've given them so one of them decides to either teach you how to use glamour magic, or shows up whenever you want to alter your gear.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

Yes, we call this third person also something you would hopefully notice before purchasing. And still you can walk away sir, you can zoom in on yourself, change the angle, you can leave the instance. No one but yourself is stopping you from doing any number of these things.

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So leaving the instance is your solution? Changing the angle is not feasible if one wants to see the monster in front of them at all. So to you, that would be a more optimal solution than just implementing the feature the OP described that literally harms no one?

What happens when they're actually wearing the shisui set? or lets say we get another high level set that is skimpy?

I'd prefer if the dev time was spent on more important things.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

So leaving the instance is your solution? Changing the angle is not feasible if one wants to see the monster in front of them at all. So to you, that would be a more optimal solution than just implementing the feature the OP described that literally harms no one?

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People on here constantly use the "well you can/'t do this IRL so it should be that way in the game" argument all the time. There's no reasoning with them as they're incapable of separating fantasy from reality. Better to just save your breath.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

So leaving the instance is your solution? Changing the angle is not feasible if one wants to see the monster in front of them at all. So to you, that would be a more optimal solution than just implementing the feature the OP described that literally harms no one?

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Yes, and you keep saying it harms no one. Yet explain to me how their outfits actually harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you and the op are saying. You want to see people, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not conform to your liking. They might as well make it so you just cannot see them period.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

Yes, and you keep saying it harms no one. Yet explain to me how their outfits actually harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you and the op are saying. You want to see people, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not conform to your liking. They might as well make it so you just cannot see them period.

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It's simple. If I'm engrossed in the story, and am in the Hades fight for example, seeing someone in a frog suit jars me right out of that immersion.

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Originally Posted by Dan4077

Yes, and you keep saying it harms no one. Yet explain to me how their outfits actually harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you and the op are saying. You want to see people, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not conform to your liking. They might as well make it so you just cannot see them period.

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how does profanity harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you are saying. You want to see some words, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not comform to your liking. They might as well make it so you cannot see words period.

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Originally Posted by Joven

People on here constantly use the "well you can/'t do this IRL so it should be that way in the game" argument all the time. There's no reasoning with them as they're incapable of separating fantasy from reality. Better to just save your breath.

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Sir that is not the argument I used at all. I ask you refrain from lying/misrepresenting my argument. I am saying that MMO and IRL have similar interactions being they are constructed to be like a world themselves. That being said some features are bound to be derived from our world into theirs. I am not so dumb as to not know the difference. But if you are so naive that you can say they have no similarities then I would say the "save your breath" would be appropriate if I were to try and engage you in conversation.

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Originally Posted by AcaciaTyrannia

how does profanity harm you then. Since you want to bring the word "harm" into the mix. Is it hurting you mentally? Are you taking more damage? I am confused. I thought your entire premise was, I don't like it so block it. That is the boiled down version of what you are saying. You want to see some words, but do not want to see them as they really are because they do not comform to your liking. They might as well make it so you cannot see words period.

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Clever, however it doesn't harm me. I am of the opinion it is pointless to even block it. People will all come to eventually know of/hear it. It is not really harmful in any sense.