DEV REQUEST: Remove cast bars to MCH & BRD

In 2.xx BRD was my wifes 2nd job and she says she enjoyed it more then her main. Which is Warrior.
Post 3.0 we are both 60 but she hasn't even really started on a 2nd job.. Really we aren't playing anything much after capping eso. She has just lost interest in getting a DPS to 60.

I play bard. But with WM and the added rotation, I think my effectiveness has gone down...

I can do with WM, what i can no longer stand in dungeon runs is the new rotation:

Switch target, switch target, switch target, iron jaws, switch target, switch target, iron jaws.
Every 10 seconds...

Also the mini game "where is Waldo" is coming soon with the Void Ark :p

Ah, but unless things changed since I played, I do recall still being able to move while charging my shots.

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Originally Posted by Daralii

TERA archers are also slowed by like 60% when charging.

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Originally Posted by RocheKat

Anyone think that maybe they removed the mobility of bard because they wanted to remove the mobility and not to make the job interesting?

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yes, but it doesn't matter what they wanted if they do it poorly.

You know I still don't get the argument, I haven't leveled either so please correct me if I am wrong. This is based on the mobility issue.

When there is no mechanics going on, your still anyway so why not embrace the stance to do more dps. If a mechanic requires you to move cancel stance and carry on pew pew 2.0 mode until mechanics are done then back to stance - as far as I can see there is no mobility issue, you should have been standing still anyway when there was no reason to move.

Please redesign any cast times post-50 to reflect the play style of BRD originally as it was meant to be. I agree with the OP: this is a matter of play style. Keep bard a physical and mobile DPS with consistent but fast-paced damage please.

I feel it's important to point out that since 2.0, BRD has seen so many dev tweaks that it's got a permanent identity crisis. This has only made it worse. If you want to create a sniper-style, aiming technique in which we have to pause as a part of the job's role, that's fine, but make it represent physical+ranged+melee and get rid of this quirky casting dynamic. Even Ninja with their mudras are able to cast on the go as physical DPS.

Lastly, from a social standpoint running Duty Finder dungeons, there are too many other players who feel it's necessary to micromanage every aspect of your play especially as a DPS. It's already an obnoxious habit of those who'll boss you around on something like Mage's Ballad or Foe Requiem as if you haven't discerned enough about your own job for 50+ levels. Add to this the use of Wanderer's Minuet and associated skills and it's just a mood killer, a shot to morale, a downer, yes a mood killer!

Normally i would aprove this but since i have 5 days in a row in Shiva Trial roulette where all bards and MCH die because they are runin like idiots, im sorry xD.

Really the only thing they should fix its the problem with Probs in Bard skills. Sicerily before the Expansion i hope they do something like this but instead of Casting Bar a skill Toggle where they gain like +30% damage but they cant move until you desactive the toggle. ( No cooldown)

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Originally Posted by Kathyz

Normally i would aprove this but since i have 5 days in a row in Shiva Trial roulette where all bards and MCH die because they are runin like idiots, im sorry xD.

Really the only thing they should fix its the problem with Probs in Bard skills. Sicerily before the Expansion i hope they do something like this but instead of Casting Bar a skill Toggle where they gain like +30% damage but they cant move until you desactive the toggle. ( No cooldown)

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with how GCD and animation lock work in FFXIV that would kill more bards than Titan players in all his life :P

what SE need to fix is the clunky gameplay and finally boost bow/gun WD so is on par with every other job ~~ , casting sucks? yeah , but isnt going anywhere.

p.d btw Tera archers used glyps to remove the penalty while casting ;)

Bard was one of my favorites until I unlocked Wanderer's Minuet. The casting simply doesn't fit, and I was expecting, you know, an actual song. Like, why wasn't WM made into a song that reduces enemy resistance to physical damage? What are we doing? Enchanting each arrow before we fire them? It's just too weird.

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Originally Posted by rappa

180 wep bard = 63 Weapon Damage
180 wep nin-mnk-drg = 70 Weapon Damage.
+7 WD

190 wep bard = 65 Weapon Damage
190 wep nin-mnk-drg = 72 Weapon Damage.
+7 WD

200 wep bard = 67 Weapon Damage
200 wep nin-mnk-drg = 74 Weapon Damage.
+7 WD

210 wep bard = 68 Weapon Damage
210 wep nin-mnk-drg = 76 Weapon Damage.
+8 WD

That is the problem, nor potency, nor skills. Our weapon damage is less than others
dps and the difference is increased final wep stage.

Too afraid to stay the +7 WD difference?

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something interesting to note; bards/mch have 11 more main stat(dex) then the other jobs. for a while, i thought ninja was missing dex, but its just that the base is higher.