Power-leveling is absolutely BROKEN

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Some games are all about leveling. XIV isn't. I'd say it's balanced in its own right. The only thing that needs to be fixed is the oust and kill method of PLing.

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since when? they have been back and forth between slow grinds to fast ones threw its history. from 15man parties way back to only getting such bad exp on just coblyns. to link leves that were awesome, then bad, then awesome now bad again. yeah yoshi says pl'ing isn't a problem but you would think a fix on how much would of came by now and should be. games that aren't about leveling are about pvp and this is a pve game. the game has taken lots of turns and they confirmed it to be ok but ....how much is gotten and how, needs to be fixed. make it one pl and 7 or 8 others that have to still do stuff for it to succeed not 1 person and 7afk people. make it like others said just 5-20exp an hour more. enough to want a pl but not needed.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

It's fair because everyone can do it and do it fairly because the game allows you to do it.

If it was somehow restricted to a segment of players than it wouldn't be fair...but you or I or any Joe or Jane or what have you can do it. Open for all!!!
Can't say it's not balanced...it's an MMO you are expected to play with others for the best results.

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so you saying the new players later that even now can't afford our retarded prices in ah for low level gear can afford to pay for a pl'er? or do you think that they will all end up in a linkshell full of high level players willing to waste there time pl'ing everyone?

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Originally Posted by Agoven

It's fair because everyone can do it and do it fairly because the game allows you to do it.

If it was somehow restricted to a segment of players than it wouldn't be fair...but you or I or any Joe or Jane or what have you can do it. Open for all!!!

Can't say it's not balanced...it's an MMO you are expected to play with others for the best results.

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it is not balanced...... i don't see how people aren't intelligent enough to realize that.

getting into a party and everyone pulling their own weight is not balanced with a pl party. they should be balanced in regards to each other so both types of groups are balanced with each other. like i stated earlier if a grind party can get 20k an hour or 200k an hour than a power level group should get the same sp per hour. it doesn't matter how much sp per hour they can get, but both types of party should be balanced.

400k an hour pl parties >>>>>>>>>>>>> 100k an hour gind parties. both sets of numbers are random and much more of a difference btw. power level groups gets way more sp than a group actually grinding and that means they are in no way, shape, or form balanced.

i don't care if they increase the grind sp, lower the power leveling sp, or a combination of both, but they need to balance them out. there is no way one group can get 10x the amount of sp compared to another party and turn around and call it balanced.

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Originally Posted by Agoven

It's fair because everyone can do it and do it fairly because the game allows you to do it.

If it was somehow restricted to a segment of players than it wouldn't be fair...but you or I or any Joe or Jane or what have you can do it. Open for all!!!

Can't say it's not balanced...it's an MMO you are expected to play with others for the best results.

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It is a MMO you should not be able to rocket to capped level... that is not what a mmorpg is. This game has a leveling curve less then half of WoW's is and that game's leveling is ludicrously easy.

A good MMO should take at the MIN 2 months to get a job to cap from level 1 if you are a new player. In the past for most games it use to be 12-18months. You can get to cap in XIV faster then you can cap a characters job in an offline FF game and that is major broken considering one of the defining elements of a MMO is longevity of the game.

The leveling rate in this game, based off it being a mmo is the pure definition of broken beyond belief. Solo rate in XIV is fine, group leveling needs to be cut at the min by 1/3 xp/hr 1/2 xp/hr 40+.

Game needs to promote leveling in groups not pwrlvling. Normal Group sp pre40 is fine, put a pwrlvler a then it is horrifically unbalanced.

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Originally Posted by DoctorMog

I'm not butthurt

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Actually, yes you do sound butthurt at the moment. Don't lie to us.

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Originally Posted by Xatsh

Game needs to promote leveling in groups not pwrlvling.

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You do this by making leveling in groups fun, not artificially extending the leveling like many of you people think will solve everything ("hurr throw more timesinks in"). And stop assuming the level cap will always be 50, the game in its current state is nothing but a testing grounds for 2.0.

Wow, pretty sad that this is still on the front page. Can we just rename this "The Haters' Thread"? Bad enough that we had an emergency patch to get this "fixed" because some level 30's were butthurt that they actually had a means to escape the boring and tedious grind (or at least speed it up), and people are still pissing and moaning about it? If you want to hold onto that long, boring and tedious feeling, just grind a craft instead.

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Originally Posted by Zeref

Congratulations, you're still an idiot.


forget this, if you people are idiots Its not my issue, I give up, let this post get deleted and I banned for another week for calling you all idiots, I'm not coming back to this crapshoot of idiocy and closed-minded retardation.

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good. this is the best news i have heard yet. you would know exactly what it is since you are the vocal leader of that group. the best news this board could hear is that you are leaving.

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Originally Posted by Theplatter

Wow, pretty sad that this is still on the front page. Can we just rename this "The Haters' Thread"? Bad enough that we had an emergency patch to get this "fixed" because some level 30's were butthurt that they actually had a means to escape the boring and tedious grind (or at least speed it up), and people are still pissing and moaning about it? If you want to hold onto that long, boring and tedious feeling, just grind a craft instead.

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nobody is saying that power leveling needs to be removed. what part of that can you not understand?

people are saying that the sp for power leveling should be in line with the sp for grind parties. if they both got massive sp then so be it, but only one gets massive sp and the other gets less than 20%. if both groups are 8 people fighting mobs there's no reason one group of r40 characters get 5x the amount of sp that another group of r40's get. they need to balance it to where both groups get comparable sp.

we could also name it the crybaby thread because people feel threatened because they are afraid their gravy train of sp may be put in line with the groups that are actually fighting mobs so they cry about it.

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Originally Posted by darkstarpoet1

good. this is the best news i have heard yet. you would know exactly what it is since you are the vocal leader of that group. the best news this board could hear is that you are leaving.



nobody is saying that power leveling needs to be removed. what part of that can you not understand?

people are saying that the sp for power leveling should be in line with the sp for grind parties. if they both got massive sp then so be it, but only one gets massive sp and the other gets less than 20%. if both groups are 8 people fighting mobs there's no reason one group of r40 characters get 5x the amount of sp that another group of r40's get. they need to balance it to where both groups get comparable sp.

we could also name it the crybaby thread because people feel threatened because they are afraid their gravy train of sp may be put in line with the groups that are actually fighting mobs so they cry about it.

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Um, I was only commenting on how it's a wonder that this thread is still going, despite the fact that there was already an emergency maintenance to get it adjusted. Glad you feel so proud that you had the patience to grind through all of your jobs; apparently that's fun to you. For me, fun was beating the Darkhold with friends, or killing Ifrit, both of which required levels 45+. And fyi, I did in fact grind through most of classes (with the exception of pug and gla because they were not enjoyable classes to me), so no, I don't feel threatened that people like you are getting an e-peen by doing the same repeated motions for months on end to reach the same goal. Maybe you should stop being threatened by people who would like to speed up the grind and enjoy some endgame content.

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Originally Posted by Sephrick

Some games are all about leveling. XIV isn't. I'd say it's balanced in its own right. The only thing that needs to be fixed is the oust and kill method of PLing.

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Then what the hell is it about?

I sure hope it's not what you people with all 50's are calling "Endgame" that would just be sad.