Requesting Information on Jobs: Preparing for 1.21

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03-05-2012, 07:51 AM
Colino

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Originally Posted by illriginalized

No. Just no.

Yeah that's what I tell myself 99% of the time I read something as stupid as that... : /
03-05-2012, 02:28 PM
HokSeven

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Originally Posted by Mychael

While you're absolutely right, my personal preference is that the defining differences should be independent from gear. While gear can make a huge difference (i.e why WHM's Cure II/III could be higher than any other job in XI), I feel like a naked WHM should have a notable advantage over a naked CNJ. They do, in abilities, and that's why I seemed to focus on them.

I just had an idea, though--what if the Job Stone we equipped gave +10% Healing Potency, PLD job stone gave +10% Defense, etc?

I don't know why but I thought that was a given. As they said that going with WHM should unlock abilities from other classes. That in turn should give you something to want the WHM. Maybe the whm is not a prime example, but I don't want to loose say sentinel or other abilities on my LNC to become DRG, for what? Jump?

So a whm should indeed get cure +10% or something. Similarly other jobs should offer something besides the 5 abilities. And that is why we need the update on the lodestone about the jobs soon :P
03-05-2012, 04:20 PM
NoctisUmbra

Here's the BIG update!

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/293

Will update OP with answers in the morning.
03-05-2012, 06:53 PM
Dusk_Shardveil

It kind of reminds me of the Dual-class system in AD&D (2nd Ed... yes I am old, I remmember it before the 'Advanced' part pre 1st eddition. ^.^)

The key is to know the terminology.
Classes are the ones you know of old. Conj, Pug, etc.
Jobs tho are dual classes. Combined classes... White Mage, etc. Knowing that makes the rest more clear.

(though I'd love to see 'class stones' too. To make occupation switching easier!)
03-08-2012, 04:07 AM
Camate

Greetings!

There have been some questions on the Japanese side regarding jobs, so I’d like to relay what was answered.

To change jobs, just equipping the job specific weapon will not do the “job” so to speak (heh heh...sorry). You will need to equip the appropriate soul crystal. There was also a comment about whether we could add an icon to the console tray as a shortcut for job changes; however, considering 2.0’s UI and system specifications we will not be adding this.

Help text for items will also be displayed in the below manner to show which classes and jobs can equip certain items:

[Required] Gladiator Marauder Paladin Warrior

Previously existing items will also have their help text edited to account for jobs.

Finally, there was one last question about whether there would be content that requires everyone to play as jobs, but there are no plans for content where you could not take on the challenge if you are not playing as a job.
03-08-2012, 04:09 AM
Elexia

Crystal Tower better be restricted to Jobs only :D
03-08-2012, 04:10 AM
BrusselSprout

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Originally Posted by Camate

Finally, there was one last question about whether there would be content that requires everyone to play as jobs, but there are no plans for content where you could not take on the challenge if you are not playing as a job.

Heck yeah, good answer.
03-08-2012, 04:10 AM
Starlord

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Originally Posted by Camate

Greetings!

There have been some questions on the Japanese side regarding jobs, so I’d like to relay what was answered.

To change jobs, just equipping the job specific weapon will not do the “job” so to speak (heh heh...sorry). You will need to equip the appropriate soul crystal. There was also a comment about whether we could add an icon to the console tray as a shortcut for job changes; however, considering 2.0’s UI and system specifications we will not be adding this.

Help text for items will also be displayed in the below manner to show which classes and jobs can equip certain items:

[Required] Gladiator Marauder Paladin Warrior

Previously existing items will also have their help text edited to account for jobs.

Finally, there was one last question about whether there would be content that requires everyone to play as jobs, but there are no plans for content where you could not take on the challenge if you are not playing as a job.

So... It is Coming this patch... in 1.21? :O
03-08-2012, 04:16 AM
BrusselSprout

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Originally Posted by Starlord

So... It is Coming this patch... in 1.21? :O

job specific weapon != af weapon

he means theres no system to automatically be a PLD by equipping a sword without a job stone.
03-08-2012, 04:44 AM
Irondude

you will just have to add another line to your gear swap macro... at least i hope it will be that easy.

/equip main "Weapon Name"
/equip stone "Job Stone Name"
03-08-2012, 06:42 AM
Teknoman

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Originally Posted by Starlord

So... It is Coming this patch... in 1.21? :O

There could be weapons that are job specific that arent AF weapons.
03-08-2012, 06:45 AM
Starlord

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

There could be weapons that are job specific that arent AF weapons.

True... but even then.. they are probably epic :O
03-08-2012, 06:45 AM
NoctisUmbra

I think they were referring to the AF, when we get it. Not necessarily 1.21. The question was simply if it would be possible to switch to a job simply by equipping job specific weapons.
03-08-2012, 06:47 AM
Mychael

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

I think they were referring to the AF, when we get it. Not necessarily 1.21. The question was simply if it would be possible to switch to a job simply by equipping job specific weapons.

I still hope that there will at least be something job-specific beyond armor, i.e. the BRD unlock quest gives you a single instrument of some kind. :/ Still holding out for BRD actually making music like in XI, and hoping I don't have to deal with everyone singing until 1.22 or beyond. :S
03-08-2012, 06:48 AM
NoctisUmbra

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Originally Posted by Mychael

I still hopefully slide that there will at least be something, i.e. the BRD unlock quest gives you a single instrument of some kind. :/ Still holding out for BRD actually making music like in XI, and hoping I don't have to deal with everyone singing until 1.22 or beyond. :S

I think by equipping the BRD job we'll automatically have the little horn graphically on our belt - which will be used for music.
03-08-2012, 06:54 AM
Mychael

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

I think by equipping the BRD job we'll automatically have the little horn graphically on our belt - which will be used for music.

God, I hope so. ._.''
03-08-2012, 06:57 AM
Teknoman

Either way, i'm still hoping for some job specific none AF weapons instead of using Cobalt Winglet/Ifrit Sword/Moogle Sword until AF weapons are in.

Maybe dungeon drops?
03-08-2012, 07:03 AM
BrusselSprout

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Originally Posted by Teknoman

Either way, i'm still hoping for some job specific none AF weapons instead of using Cobalt Winglet/Ifrit Sword/Moogle Sword until AF weapons are in.

Maybe dungeon drops?

:D yes please
03-08-2012, 10:34 AM
Rydin

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Is it really necessary to pick a fight with a post that's 2 months old?

Necro Bump Battle....

Let's GET IT ON!!!
03-08-2012, 10:39 AM
NoctisUmbra

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Originally Posted by Rydin

Necro Bump Battle....

Let's GET IT ON!!!

Pay attention. It's my thread, and considering it got a rep post just today it's far from being dead.
03-08-2012, 10:41 AM
Rydin

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Pay attention. It's my thread, and considering it got a rep post just today it's far from being dead.

The post was necro bumped... not the thread....
03-08-2012, 10:42 AM
NoctisUmbra

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Originally Posted by Rydin

The post was necro bumped... not the thread....

lol... ok

Didn't know that was a thing.
03-08-2012, 10:50 AM
Rydin

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

lol... ok

Didn't know that was a thing.

I think it is now

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