FFXIV Dawntrail reviews are out on Metacritic

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Originally Posted by Isala

Nobody is praising the same boring dungeon designs we've had for years. I was very specific to point out the DUNGEONS.

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This is straight up false. People are praising the dungeons specifically as well for being a little harder and more mechanically involved than EW

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Originally Posted by Isala

Your precious Viper is already on the chopping block, because a slight amount of skill required was detected by the dev team.

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And I have spoken out against that, but let's wait to see what the actual changes are first

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Originally Posted by Isala

And go ask Lalas and Roes about their smudges. Also, for some reason, mine is turbo jacked, which if I wasn't okay with, would have destroyed my character for me.

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I'm sorry your "smudge" was ruined, so I see why you in particular are miffed about the issue but I stand by that most people are happy. It's just the truth.

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Originally Posted by Isala

And I'm here for the same reason that everyone else here is. Because we enjoyed the game, and don't see the reason to quit it because this expansion just happens to be a meth dumpster fire.

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"Meth dumpster fire'. I genuinely hate this sensationalist language. Stop being a drama queen. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously? Neither of us have even finished the damn MSQ, so this whole convo is stupid tbh. I'm getting off this cesspool until I finish it because y'all are hard to watch

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Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun

This is straight up false. People are praising the dungeons specifically as well for being a little harder and more mechanically involved than EW




And I have spoken out against that, but let's wait to see what the actual changes are first



I'm sorry your "smudge" was ruined, so I see why you in particular are miffed about the issue but I stand by that most people are happy. It's just the truth.




"Meth dumpster fire'. I genuinely hate this sensationalist language. Stop being a drama queen. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously? Neither of us have even finished the damn MSQ, so this whole convo is stupid tbh. I'm getting off this cesspool until I finish it because y'all are hard to watch

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Ah yes. That's like saying "You've been kicked in the junk for the last two weeks, but you can't complain, because they MIGHT stop kicking you in the junk."

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Originally Posted by Isala

Ah yes. That's like saying "You've been kicked in the junk for the last two weeks, but you can't complain, because they MIGHT stop kicking you in the junk."

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Nice failure to address the other points. In the case of viper, it's more like we're worried they might take some toppings off of the ice cream sundae we just got. So stupid to argue about a change we don't even know about yet. I wish you luck in your life!

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Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun

Nice failure to address the other points. In the case of viper, it's more like we're worried they might take some toppings off of the ice cream sundae we just got. So stupid to argue about a change we don't even know about yet. I wish you luck in your life!

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Speaking of failure, I thought you were going to go away. Did you just fail at that? And what toppings? They're talking about taking away the only thing that makes it more engaging than sleeping. And sure, we don't "know about it yet", but we've been doing this song and dance for a decade. We know the stupid crap SE decides is a good idea.

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Originally Posted by Isala

Speaking of failure, I thought you were going to go away. Did you just fail at that? And what toppings? They're talking about taking away the only thing that makes it more engaging than sleeping. And sure, we don't "know about it yet", but we've been doing this song and dance for a decade. We know the stupid crap SE decides is a good idea.

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I can do whatever I want. I sincerely want the best for you and think it is time for you and FFXIV to part ways because clearly you are unhappy and it's not working, especially after glancing at that bitter signature of yours (sidenote: people with who go out of their way to make attention-seeking signatures like that tend to be the most inflammatory and bad-faith people on the forums, interesting). Would you like any game recommendations? Shadow of the Erdtree is great I hear. Stop forcing it! It's time to let go, I promise you will be much happier!

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Originally Posted by Amh_Wilzuun

I can do whatever I want. I sincerely want the best for you and think it is time for you and FFXIV to part ways because clearly you are unhappy and it's not working, especially after glancing at that bitter signature of yours (sidenote: people with who go out of their way to make attention-seeking signatures like that tend to be the most inflammatory and bad-faith people on the forums, interesting). Would you like any game recommendations? Shadow of the Erdtree is great I hear. Stop forcing it! It's time to let go, I promise you will be much happier!

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I keep procrastinating starting another Elden Ring run to get to the DLC...so lazy

Anyways, the internet has a habit of making people seem more extreme than they actually are in real life. I'm not nearly as snarky for example :D Isala and you might actually get long in real life. Maybe.

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

What makes this Lalafell sympathizer think it can speak among men?





We protect what is ours.

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I have to wonder, assuming you got through DT, has hard has it been hearing about the other sci fi lalas? I can't imagine it's been pleasant. Or does it simply stir your desire to spread the message to these other lalas?

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

I have to wonder, assuming you got through DT, has hard has it been hearing about the other sci fi lalas? I can't imagine it's been pleasant. Or does it simply stir your desire to spread the message to these other lalas?

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He got to delete Lalas. I'm pretty sure he is giggling right now.

I don't get the Lala hate tbh....

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

I keep procrastinating starting another Elden Ring run to get to the DLC...so lazy

Anyways, the internet has a habit of making people seem more extreme than they actually are in real life. I'm not nearly as snarky for example :D Isala and you might actually get long in real life. Maybe.

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Chances are we probably would since we share a common interest in this game, and I hardly know any people IRL that play 14. I don't think they actually hate XIV as much as they say they do because otherwise they wouldn't be here. It can be hard engaging with people constructively on this forum because it is meant to be a place where active players share opinions but when you encounter those who reject everything about the game and the devs as a unilateral "bad" it's like talking to a brick wall. "The devs will always let us down, jobs are all dead, the game hasn't been good since HW" etc. These types of hardline stances tend to draw reactions from people like myself who have things they criticize about the game but aren't willing to reject it entirely, so of course I end up defending the game as someone who still overall enjoys the game. I will try not to jump into these rhetorical black holes going forward. Thank you for the outside perspective to snap me back to reality.

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Originally Posted by Boblawblah

Anyways, the internet has a habit of making people seem more extreme than they actually are in real life. I'm not nearly as snarky for example :D Isala and you might actually get long in real life. Maybe.

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Truer words have never been spoken. Writing medium in general just makes snark ooze right out of me. When I speak to people irl, I'm a completely normal person, I swear it.

I suppose that's normal though. When we have all the time in the world to read something, think of a response, write it, rewrite it... Too much time to overthink. Too much time for emotions to stew. In a normal conversation you move on so much faster. And come on, we're arguing about what... one little expansion for one single video game... about reviews for that expansion even. Such a small, inconsequential thing in the grand scheme of things. Wouldn't waste even 5 minutes on this irl. Here though...