Quinn hating on the game.

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Originally Posted by ElciaDeiLinus

That's Asmon's choice- streamers can do what they want to do, and they're a very tribalistic group that can't handle criticism.

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Asmongold and Quin are both partnered and as Asmon has said so many times before he learns the rules of a ToS to the edge to not break them. Asmongold is the guy who actually reads the ToS unlike most of us. I am sure he has a few choice words but he knows it is all an act to get clicks.

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Originally Posted by ElciaDeiLinus

... that isn't something you should be this proud of...

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Of course that's not something to be proud of. Using it in derogatory ways like what he did was an absolutely terrible thing, but it proves that there's just some people you just cant cancel

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Originally Posted by lezard21

No, buy you see, the millionaire guy lost one contract that didn't impact him at all in the long run while continuing to make millions through other venues.

Can we get a pleb "GOTTEM!" in chat?

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If I'm interpreting this correctly.

Sure, but the simple fact of the matter his bad publicity at the time lost him a contract, as it has done with other social media stars their brand deals or partnerships. The point isn't that "Can just make more money lul" - It was a counterpoint to "No such thing as bad publicity" which relies on the simple fact that all attention in the media will further the cause or agenda even if said attention paints them in a bad light. Cancel culture has largely encouraged accountability for what you say.

Or are you going to imply to me that PewDiePie being mentioned across the media as a result of his antisemitic comments and thusly losing his contract helped to forward an agenda or cause? Fact of the matter remains he would have been better off without the publicity. alike many people, hence bad.

It's totally not like you just read 1 comment without reading the stream before joyfully attaching yourself to the discussion. But of course. I hope I'm misinterpreting this.

I just hope situations such as this aren't exploited as a way to deflect legitimate criticism of the game.

This game sort of has a 'weeb' stigma, so a lot of people won't actually try the game, or give it an honest shot. Yeah, some will hop on a bandwagon, or try it out of peer pressure, but at the end of the day, they don't actually want to play it, or be associated with it. This may or may not have been the case here. I'm not actually sure, as I haven't looked into this much (did not click on the OP's video), nor do I even know who this person is. I feel like I MIGHT have seen something awhile back on YouTube, but I honestly cannot remember for sure.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

If I'm interpreting this correctly.

Sure, but the simple fact of the matter his bad publicity at the time lost him a contract, as it has done with other social media stars their brand deals or partnerships. The point isn't that "Can just make more money lul" - It was a counterpoint to "No such thing as bad publicity" which relies on the simple fact that all attention in the media will further the cause or agenda even if said attention paints them in a bad light. Cancel culture has largely encouraged accountability for what you say.

Or are you going to imply to me that PewDiePie being mentioned across the media as a result of his antisemitic comments and thusly losing his contract helped to forward an agenda or cause?

It's totally not like you just read 1 comment without reading the stream before joyfully attaching yourself to the discussion. But of course. I hope I'm misinterpreting this.

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He sure did get mentioned on the news when that happened and that most likely got people to remember that he still exists. He probably gained tons of viewers too.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Or are you going to imply to me that PewDiePie being mentioned across the media as a result of his antisemitic comments and thusly losing his contract helped to forward an agenda or cause?

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The attention given by media meant more people who didn't know what a Pewdiepie was went to check his videos, increasing his view count, increasing his revenue. So yes, no publicity is bad publicity. What he lost in a contract he more than made up in views.

If you want another example you have the Fine Bros. with their child labour react channel that got cancelled twice and is going stronger than ever.

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Originally Posted by bass9020

He didnt even play the game, he was lvl 18 then boosted story and a job. Complained about everything. People are entitled to say what they want about how a streamer handled it, remember they are the saving grace to this game (and others) so they should be held accountable for actions. If he said that the game wasnt for him thats fine, but to blame everyone else in the party is beyond silly. Talking about the story when you know nothing about it again silly. No one has weird issues, people just dont want others getting away with misinformation.

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He's just an edgelord livestreamer talking badly about a thing you like. A freaking video game.
He doesn't have to justify crap.
He or any other player, streamer can bash this game for any reason they like. It's none of anyone's business why they don't like the game.
You people need to grow up. People will bash a video game, movie, or whatever hobby you have without being rational about it they owe absolutely no explanation to you.
Lmao, "held accountable", "Misinformation". He just thinks XIV sucks and called fans the equivalent of dum-dums.

Not everyone will like XIV, and not every streamer is trying to be an armchair PR when they talk about a game. Most of them just want to play video games and engage with their own fans. Nothing more. Get over it.

This really was the perfect storm of things that tilt this game's Wonderful Community.

Amazing.

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Originally Posted by MPK

He sure did get mentioned on the news when that happened and that most likely got people to remember that he still exists. He probably gained tons of viewers too.

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He probably didn't need the news to remind people of his existence. But you're once again missing the point. That cancel culture and the overall culture of the internet and media these days have people being held accountable for their takes, or associations which is what makes "No such thing as bad publicity" invalid. Content Creators and Businesses are routinely subjected to the consequences of bad publicity that they would have been better off without engaging in or subjecting themselves to.

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Originally Posted by lezard21

The attention given by media meant more people who didn't know what a Pewdiepie was went to check his videos, increasing his view count, increasing his revenue. So yes, no publicity is bad publicity. What he lost in a contract he more than made up in views.

If you want another example you have the Fine Bros. with their child labour react channel that got cancelled twice and is going stronger than ever.

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I see I'm going to need to spell this out. No such thing as bad publicity wrests on the simple case of that given piece of publicity having no consequence whatsoever. Some rebound from it, from otherwise external or irrelevant circumstances. Some others simply won't.

John Galliano was suspended from Dior for antisemitic rants that were recorded. Or are you going to imply that this helped further his agenda in some way too? As I'm sure the allegations of several celebrities accused of woman beating, including that of Chris Brown went without any consequence or damage whatsoever.

The fact of the matter if you ask any company or business whether there's any such thing as bad publicity, I'm sure they'll very quickly refute it, considering how nightmarish these can be for many to deal with. You seem to be under the delusion that because they were able to bounce back or recover that it went without any consequence or negativities at all. When the fact remains that many of these people of businesses would have been MUCH better off without the publicity in the first place.