We covered hopes for 5.0, but what are your fears?

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Originally Posted by Dzian

It may have been a slight exageration. But it was aimed at most content in general. Where it can cleared with ease playing your job at like 1/4 of it's potential.

It's not just dungeons. It's raids trials. Msq instances. All dumbed down so much you would actually have to try harder to fail than succeed.

It's not a huge exaggeration to say even a low end raid party of 8 can do more combined dps. Than 24 people tend to do in an average alliance raid boss fight.
When 24 people can't beat 8. It kinda highlights how badly people can play there jobs and still clear content.

If they want to close the skill gap. That's what they need to change.

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Most content is tuned to be easy to moderately difficult as a design choice. If really difficult content was what the majority of people wanted, ultimate or savage would be the most populated content. They don't want to close the skill gap making everyone perform at super challenging content or the population would shrink even more.

Jobs are like real life professions in a sense. Take basketball for example. You got ten thousands of casual or serious playground/park players, thousands of college players, hundreds of g league players, and hundreds of NBA players. If every bball player in the world had the skill, physical gifts, and way to play in the nba and get paid good they would.

The skill gap that about everyone can do and agree with is there should be no content so easy that you don't have to pay attention at all or watch netflix or play another game at the same time.

Not everyone has the skill to be elite or the best at something, and that's before you even take into account if they care about that or not in a game.

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Originally Posted by Sandpark

Not everyone has the skill to be elite or the best at something, and that's before you even take into account if they care about that or not in a game.

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And before even that, not everyone has the potential to do so.

Still, very wise word. I applaud you.

My fear for 5.0 is that despite BLM, RDM, and now BLU all dressing extra smart in more of their designs, we'll still be getting nothing but robes for casters that don't work for any of them OR SMN

My biggest worry atm is the world visit feature is going to destroy the MB and hunts.

I'm absolutely terrified of the DC restructuring.
I don't want to be separate from my friends in the world transfer.
And I don't want my friends to be separated from their friends by having to move servers to avoid being separated from their off-server friends.

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Originally Posted by ElazulHP

My biggest worry atm is the world visit feature is going to destroy the MB and hunts.

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i belive the marquet and the housing will be excluded actions of the world visit to prevent the economy problems.

While I'm glad to hear of the addition of a new data center, I'm a little worried that the redistribution of the currently existing servers will separate the community even more. Now, this wouldn't be so bad if they were to introduce cross-data center features (akin to the cross-server feature we have right now, to start), but if not...

Well, that's my only concern... Well, that and I'm hoping that we don't get another Raubahn/ Pipin Extreme.

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Originally Posted by Sandpark

Most content is tuned to be easy to moderately difficult as a design choice. If really difficult content was what the majority of people wanted, ultimate or savage would be the most populated content. They don't want to close the skill gap making everyone perform at super challenging content or the population would shrink even more.

Jobs are like real life professions in a sense. Take basketball for example. You got ten thousands of casual or serious playground/park players, thousands of college players, hundreds of g league players, and hundreds of NBA players. If every bball player in the world had the skill, physical gifts, and way to play in the nba and get paid good they would.

The skill gap that about everyone can do and agree with is there should be no content so easy that you don't have to pay attention at all or watch netflix or play another game at the same time.

Not everyone has the skill to be elite or the best at something, and that's before you even take into account if they care about that or not in a game.

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Why is it every time people say dungeons, trails and etc are incredibly easy, the immediate response is to compare them with Savage and Ultimate? Asking for dungeons to require more than a pulse doesn't mean they abruptly go up to Savage levels. I'll reiterate once again, I am doing mass pulls without tank stance because the damage is completely negligible. Ten mobs all trying to eat my face do so little damage I just need CDs to live comfortably. I think we can go for a few steps above that and still be a ways off from Savage.

You are correct to assume neither everyone has the skill nor desire, but if asking people to turn their brains is too much. Let them loiter in leveling dungeons while everything else moves up for the people who want content outside Savage and EX Primals that isn't brain dead simple.

That world visit feature sounds like something that can turn bad quite fast..not only would it allow bots on servers which are normally not visited by them but also if they have no restrictions people can just jump through worlds to get to hunts and more..also if they dont fix problems at launch (and I am not sure a new DC can change that) then I have no idea how bad this will be with that feature...

Also seemingly no new race anymore after this one and 5.0 race seems to be Viera...thus if they dont just fooled us that means no beast like race anytime..

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Why is it every time people say dungeons, trails and etc are incredibly easy, the immediate response is to compare them with Savage and Ultimate? Asking for dungeons to require more than a pulse doesn't mean they abruptly go up to Savage levels. I'll reiterate once again, I am doing mass pulls without tank stance because the damage is completely negligible. Ten mobs all trying to eat my face do so little damage I just need CDs to live comfortably. I think we can go for a few steps above that and still be a ways off from Savage.

You are correct to assume neither everyone has the skill nor desire, but if asking people to turn their brains is too much. Let them loiter in leveling dungeons while everything else moves up for the people who want content outside Savage and EX Primals that isn't brain dead simple.

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There is something outside savage and ex primals and most people don't do them, we call them normal raids. You are mass pulling the entire zone because soft hitting monsters is the design intention. If they made them hit way harder, you would not be mass pulling anything.

I agree that combat should take thought and a degree of execution. If you can stand there and only have to dodge one move, that combat is poor. If you can defeat any enemy with the same rotation, that combat is poor. If you can dodge every single mechanic and not have to rely on resources or cooldowns, that combat is poor.

Hard or extreme is hard enough for the mass majority, there is thought, there is execution, there is required processing of resources and cooldowns. Anything beyond that is teetering on catering to the elite niche.

The biggest issue is finding content to do with other groups easily, scheduling runs, and practicing execution. So now they are adding World visit, trust, and new game plus. So I guess they think that the hardest part about developing battle content is not designing hard fights. The hardest part is getting players eager to group up and form easily.