Lack of content on patch release

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Originally Posted by Asiragan

At the beginning of 4.0, they did not repeat the same mistake that was Ravana/Bismark by giving accessories to Lakshmi, and weapons to Susanoo, and they got away with it like that.

It's still a far from ideal solution though and I firmly believe that if the developers want to make fun, rewarding and/or lasting content they will need to review seriously how to handle this.
But as SendohJin said, it won't happen mid-expansion...

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Yeah, I'd have to agree, they wont make the lasting changes they need to make for at least two expansions out from where they finally decide to make the change. At this stage, 5.0 is most likely done with the major stuff and just polishing up the launch along with the first content injections etc. so unless they decided to have a whole patch dedicated to horizontal character progression during the 2.X cycle, we wont see it. I hope 5.0 we will start to see the move towards more interesting gear rewards but at this point I've all but lost hope for anything more out of this game. I wish they would give us the option to pay for only one week worth of a sub. since thats about all you need to catch up even being a filthy casual such as myself.

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Originally Posted by kyomaZZ

For me its feels like i playing heavensward the second time

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Only with a new skin. I totally feel it too. Been here since 1.0 beta so I'm really feeling the rut they have dug for themselves. Even the story has so much garbage filler that it doesnt even hold my attention anymore. I skipped the last half of 4.0 story and all the addons since yet I still know whats going on and it still has no bearing on the actual game.

Are you new to patches or what? It's never any different. When Eureka launches Pagos I'm sure you're going to complain there's nothing to do after that as well.

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Originally Posted by Lunafreya

Are you new to patches or what? It's never any different. When Eureka launches Pagos I'm sure you're going to complain there's nothing to do after that as well.

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Thats exactly the problem. No content in this game has more than a week worth of life in it. But thats how the devs want to run this game "you dont like it, play something else" - Yoshi-P

And actually Eureka is something I'm still kinda enjoying to date. I did delevel from 20 down to 10 to "eLev sync" with some friends (who dont even play now) and i'm now back up to 18. Trying to get back to 20 before Pagos. My gripe about Eureka, this is what the overworld should have been from 2.0 launch, not just a single instance zone.

It's not a SE only problem though, most of the sector has the problem of not beign able to meet the content consumption demand so they restored to this trick that do have some reception from a part of the community. As such I don't think this is changing, especially if we don't compromise on grinding content like at all

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Originally Posted by Remedi

It's not a SE only problem though, most of the sector has the problem of not beign able to meet the content consumption demand so they restored to this trick that do have some reception from a part of the community. As such I don't think this is changing, especially if we don't compromise on grinding content like at all

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It's pretty much impossible outside of self-sustaining content, like a PVP mode, to make content at any rate close to what people can consume it at.

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Originally Posted by Lunafreya

Are you new to patches or what? It's never any different. When Eureka launches Pagos I'm sure you're going to complain there's nothing to do after that as well.

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Please enlighten me as to what other patch has staggered content as deliberately as this one has.
And yes it is different, other patches have had much more to do on arrival even the "catch up" patches do for example, 3.3 had plenty of content to keep people occupied with.
Willing to bet on that statement? I would guess not because if you had read any of what I have posted in this thread I've mentioned that I really enjoy most content that is released and this is the first time I've actually been disappointing with the lack of new options on release of a large scale patch purely due to staggering the content out. So I guess this is just more childish accusations with no grounds attached how tiresome. Yawn.

There's the Make it Rain event for the next 3 weeks, so that's something to do :)

PSA: fashion report 80+ points will be 150k MGP according to dev blog. (which considering the FC boost worked on it previously, I will assume it will keep working for a whopping 165k. Hell yesssss)

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Originally Posted by CorbinDallas

It's still content no matter how much you disagree with it's implementation.

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Where did I state that it wasn't content? I'm disagreeing with the way it's spaced out, not whether it's content or not.

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Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi

I can see the wisdom of having the Ultimate fights not in the initial patch.

That gives people time to do the rest of the patch's stuff at their own pace, without having to rush due to world first races.

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Ultimate fights aren't tied to any of the stories, people wouldn't have to rush any content to start progressing it.

The groups going for world first don't need the gear from the catch up patch, as they already have better gear from Sigmascape Savage. And as I said, this group of players is incredibly small.

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Originally Posted by Lunafreya

Are you new to patches or what? It's never any different. When Eureka launches Pagos I'm sure you're going to complain there's nothing to do after that as well.

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I dont remember that we had patches with two new casuals contents and both being split up over weeks/months, while the original patch had none. I mean its not even that one of it was put down the line but both content are. If they had given us at least one of them right now, the casual crowd that wont do Ultimate (which is probably around 99% of the playerbase) would have something to do, next to the daily content.

Also if new content releases and people are done with it way too fast or dont feel that its good content..isnt that on SE? Shoulndt they then create content that at least a huge part of the playerbase likes and at least takes time to complete? And I dont even mean that you need go into this 8 hours per day, each day per week to clear it in reasonable time but something that can be done next to the normal stuff and still progress and takes time.

PotD was great for me because you could either do this solo or in a group, you had a challenge after the first 100 floors, you could nicely level your jobs and they had quite some glamour behind it. IMO this is one of their best content for me to date.

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Originally Posted by TaranTatsuuchi

It's pretty much impossible outside of self-sustaining content, like a PVP mode, to make content at any rate close to what people can consume it at.

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PvP content would not be self-sustaining in FFXIV because there is no open world PvP and I would like it to stay that way since that tends to bring out the worst in people. The instanced PvP is perfectly fine and can't break the rest of the game. It might not be the most exciting content, but it's not something you can just "okay I've done it, no need to do ever do it again".

The trouble with PvE content is that it can't survive gear creep. There is absolutely no way to make any content that will not be a faceroll with the highest tier gear. If the players want the content to have any longevity, then the developers have to release story content on separate patches from side content knowing that players will spoil it immediately if too much content is released at once.