Last thing the world needs is to increase a player's financial burden in a videogame.

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Originally Posted by Herebedragons

It was like stamina, but for teleporting, right? A daily resource or something to that effect? Sounds supremely annoying.

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It was meant to make people not abuse the convenience of teleporting all over too much. Not really a bad idea given 1.X had more overworld and party focus. But it went the extreme opposite end of it and anima took so long to regenerate (DAYS, not hours) that like a lot of 1.0 stuff was ruined by poor execution.

1.0 was a very different era of MMO history, todays players would have a tantrum so big it would cause another calamity if they introduced a stamina system to limit teleports. Even FFXI has moved on from that kind of time wasting and makes travel as easy as possible now.

It's easy to look back with rose tinted glasses and remember all those moments of open jawed wonder as we travelled through dangerous open worlds on some epic adventure, and also easy to forget all the times we spent 45 minutes running to camp only for the party to disband after 15 minutes, or get aggro within sight of our destination and have to run all the way back again.

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

As someone who completed ARR and HW during the Free Trial and as a result has had barely any money ever since, I can't say this was my favourite of the changes they've announced... Hell, even my alt I don't think I ever broke 3 million gil and I've already reached the start of Shadowbringers. I don't understand how (some) people have hundreds of millions quite frankly

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There are tons of ways to make chunks of gil over time, with minimal effort (or well, brainless effort in the case of the biscuits..):

• You get 20,000 pure profit for delivering items to Doma every week.
• You get up to 3-4,000 gil from your retainers in Allagan coins, every day, per retainer. In addition to occasional rare/pricey drops like the Fat Cat.
• You can trade in a bajillion coffee biscuits via leves for millions.
• Just doing weekly challenge log stuff (dungeons, gathering, crafting) nets chunks of gil, every week.

On top of that, being less frivolous with gil, like:

• Being smarter about your teleport locations..
• Repairing gear yourself instead of the mender.
• Utilizing the airships instead of teleporting to major hubs. (keep 1 hub as favored/home point).
• Not buying gear on the market board when you can just farm it out with time and effort via dungeons/raids/tomestones.
• Not buying the latest patch glamour because it will be like 1/10 that price in a month or two.
• (If you can, farm and sell the materials for that latest patch glamour ;))

Finally, you can have more than one character at the base sub cost. Each character can have retainers to your account limit. Once you hit level 50ish on said character, you should easily be able to solo lower dungeons and trade the drops for ventures at your GC.

Making gil is easy. Making a LOT of gil only requires a llittle time and effort.

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Originally Posted by Artemiz

1.0 was a very different era of MMO history, todays players would have a tantrum so big it would cause another calamity if they introduced a stamina system to limit teleports. Even FFXI has moved on from that kind of time wasting and makes travel as easy as possible now.

It's easy to look back with rose tinted glasses and remember all those moments of open jawed wonder as we travelled through dangerous open worlds on some epic adventure, and also easy to forget all the times we spent 45 minutes running to camp only for the party to disband after 15 minutes, or get aggro within sight of our destination and have to run all the way back again.

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or die and delevel.

yeah, never going back to that kind of experience lol

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

or die and delevel.

yeah, never going back to that kind of experience lol

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Oh yeah that was fun, I was always either PLD or BLM for Dynamis, both jobs died a lot and neither could get a meripo to build up the exp buffer. On BLM I had to spend hours and hours nuking puddings after each Dynamis just so I didn't delevel next time, then eventually one of them would resist gravity and I'd die, lose half an hours exp and have to run back. Was still more fun than grinding Campaign battle on PLD though.

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Originally Posted by Sotaris

First of all, why do we need like 4 threads in 24 hours on same subject?

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I haven't seen a fourth but I did post the third (with an apology). This was one of the two posts that prompted me to make mine, specifically because both start with hyperbole about how terrible it will be for players – regressive tax! financial burden! – and zero information about the changes, which aren't nearly as bad as people are claiming. And I tried to post clarifying information within those threads but people seem to just come in, read the OP and comment on that.

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

As someone who completed ARR and HW during the Free Trial and as a result has had barely any money ever since, I can't say this was my favourite of the changes they've announced... Hell, even my alt I don't think I ever broke 3 million gil and I've already reached the start of Shadowbringers. I don't understand how (some) people have hundreds of millions quite frankly

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The free trial is going to have a big impact on your savings. I have screenshots from when I was in Stormblood showing that I had around 5 million gil at the time.

On the other hand, if nothing else, it does mean all teleporting up to level 60 is "free" because you're always going to hit the cap again.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Any new character without crafting can easily obtain 4 mil gils by the time they reach 80 with simply sell items obtained and items brought back by retainer.
If this said new character is also doing Gold Saucer weekly achievement they would definitely getting more
Why are you complaining?

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In what world? I hit 80 multiple times over and didn't get to 4 mil. LOL.

Doesn't matter anyway, the "feature" is going to come, whether I like it or not.

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Originally Posted by Shironeko_Narunyan

In what world? I hit 80 multiple times over and didn't get to 4 mil. LOL.

Doesn't matter anyway, the "feature" is going to come, whether I like it or not.

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I would refer you to my above post, especially the "being less frivolous with gil" bit.
https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...cter/37054321/
Specifically the part that says "Not buying gear on the market board when you can just farm it out with time and effort via dungeons/raids/tomestones."

Edit: don’t mean for this to come across as shaming you or trying to out you as a frivolous person. My answer is genuinely trying to push you towards finding ways to spend less.

Are you guys who complained teleport fees that poor? Duty roulette gives alot of gils for teleport alone, also FC/Squadron teleport fee reduction is a good stuff to use.

Go farm those from now on! Don't be lazy!

It does seem odd that some players seem to be very reluctant to undertake any of the thousands of ways to make gil, and also want to moan about minor expenses. Its genuinely difficult to actually play this game and not have a passive income of several hundred thousand gil a week. With an hour or two of effort you can triple that easily.

Earning gil is an integral part of FFXIV and finding your way of at least earning enough to cover basic expenses is part of the game.