Butler/Maid outfits finally on the Mogstation! Go nuts guys!

I agree that the pricing is ridiculous, but it could be way worse. There are many MMOs that charge $40 to $50 USD for a single vanity outfit on the cash shop. Mounts can be $50. One game I forgot name of sells a pair of wings for $90, not joking. Path of Exile is one example of insane pricing, and I use to spend $80 in Maple Story for vanity that included hair style, dress, and weapon. $18 for this one outfit isn't even half the price you'd be paying for it in many other MMOs. These prices will seem much higher to you if you don't have much experience with CS pricing in other MMMOs. Yes I'm aware those are free to play, which could be why we pay a lot less for the optional CS stuff. I'm not justifying these prices, but just pointing out that you don't know how good you have it. As long as there are people with a lot of extra money to throw around, SE can and will profit. I just hope they don't continue increasing the prices.

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Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos

I'm not justifying these prices, but just pointing out that you don't know how good you have it.

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Those mmos would never have my business in the first place. There's always someone that can do worse pricing that makes something look better in comparison, that doesn't make this pricing good on its own standing though. Honestly I'm not sure I'd have even taken up playing this game if I were looking at today's cash shop when thinking of joining.

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Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos

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I used to play a game called Mabinogi, and still get on it every now and again. The company that publishes it here is Nexon, with a reputation of being one of the most money grabby companies that run MMO's, with plenty of Pay 2 Win aoe pets you could buy.

Yet, the short time they sold their outfits in an actual outfit box instead of gacha, they were like... 8 bucks. Always dye-able too, with 2-3 parts dye-able, and even had custom character animations when you wore them.

If money grabby Nexon can do that, why can't Square? The only thing these outfits have above the ones Nexon did were the stupid set bonus and it has more pixels.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

I used to play a game called Mabinogi, and still get on it every now and again

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Ah, but Mabinogi made it's money from the rebirth mechanics, not the outfits. In it, you could pay like $15 a week to start over from level 1, but with all your stats folded in. You got one free rebirth a month. The power gap between people who rebirthed every week and those that didn't was insane.

Mab also made a lot of money selling pets that slowly became useless. Pets would produce resources as well as be companions, but they'd deplete over time, both in resources and HP. Nexon knew how to gouge their players like masters.

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Originally Posted by Dustytome

There's always someone that can do worse pricing that makes something look better in comparison, that doesn't make this pricing good on its own standing though.

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I never said it was good on its own. That's why I said the price is still ridiculous. Just pointing out that many of the people complaining don't know how decent this is on the grand scale of CS pricing.

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Originally Posted by Jijifli

I used to play a game called Mabinogi, and still get on it every now and again. The company that publishes it here is Nexon, with a reputation of being one of the most money grabby companies that run MMO's, with plenty of Pay 2 Win aoe pets you could buy.

Yet, the short time they sold their outfits in an actual outfit box instead of gacha, they were like... 8 bucks. Always dye-able too, with 2-3 parts dye-able, and even had custom character animations when you wore them.

If money grabby Nexon can do that, why can't Square? The only thing these outfits have above the ones Nexon did were the stupid set bonus and it has more pixels.

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That same company is also the company behind Maplestory. Maplestory also has Gachapon, which is random, but the outfits you can buy that are not random cost way more than the maid outfit SE is selling. Not sure why Mabinogi is cheaper. I know of the game. I just never played it. Trove is another MMO with cheaper prices where a mount is like $20, which isn't much cheaper, but average CS prices are a lot higher than what SE is charging.

EDIT: Nvm, just saw post above mine about why Mabinogi is so cheap.

I got the promotion items through pre-ordering a game I was planning on buying anyway so really it only cost me the extra money for shipping due to buying from the USA Amazon instead of the Canadian one. And I really only wanted the mount anyways. >.>
Compared to that $18 for one outfit for one character is an awful deal and feels like a rip-off.

It is on par with a lot of the outfits added to the cash shop recently but I'd argue that just reinforces how crappy SE's pricing is. It may not be as bad as some other games but that doesn't make it ok.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

Ah, but Mabinogi made it's money from the rebirth mechanics, not the outfits. In it, you could pay like $15 a week to start over from level 1, but with all your stats folded in. You got one free rebirth a month. The power gap between people who rebirthed every week and those that didn't was insane.

Mab also made a lot of money selling pets that slowly became useless. Pets would produce resources as well as be companions, but they'd deplete over time, both in resources and HP. Nexon knew how to gouge their players like masters.

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It was $7 a week actually, you didn't need the prem card unless you were changing your look. And yes that was a terrible system that is thankfully completely gone from the game, now you get to rebirth after 6 days, regardless, and no sooner outside of pots that are usually gotten via events. And yes the pets I did mention, although my focus was moreso on the pets that did an aoe effect than the ones that give you herbs. I once ran into a player with so many aoe pets they literally could perm stun anything that can be stunned. It's silly.

But we all know over there fashion is Mabi's real end game and for the brief moment gacha stopped happening they were rather cheap clothes.

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Originally Posted by h0tNstilettos

I never said it was good on its own. That's why I said the price is still ridiculous. Just pointing out that many of the people complaining don't know how decent this is on the grand scale of CS pricing.

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i do not think it is decent at all:
game boats your inventory with currency
rent inventory space
broken glam system
So these factors tries to push paying extra for more space to pay more, on top of a sub model on top of 18 dollar outfits that where given out where some counties did not have access to?

Also are those higher shop item games, do they pay on sub or f2p? Because you can't call this game better then anything, if you do not factor everything.

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Originally Posted by Vstarstruck

i do not think it is decent at all:
game boats your inventory with currency
rent inventory space
broken glam system
So these factors tries to push paying extra for more space to pay more, on top of a sub model on top of 18 dollar outfits that where given out where some counties did not have access to?

Also are those higher shop item games, do they pay on sub or f2p? Because you can't call this game better then anything, if you do not factor everything.

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actually at least its not like some games that went from sub to free to play that make you have to pay for everything with real money. this is litterly only glamour, you need to stop nit picking and appreciate what we get. plus yea the glamour system needs work but its not broken. IT does work. and some people can make the mog station items work and not have to buy extra retainers just to fit it all into everything. I think you need to go play some of the free to play games and check how much you have to pay for b4 you nit pick on what SE makes us pay for. I'd rather spend 18$ for glamour and that then spend 20$ for armor, ability to get farther into ms, or game, plus other items. some games have gotten ridiculous. Mabinogi, Shinmegami tensi online, elsword, dragon nest, aura kingdom, Archage, tera, Rift, are some games i wish had subs because i refuse to pay for armor and some VIP buff/ VIP alone just to get to end game. at least FFXIV is doing better then these games combined when it comes to cash shop.

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Originally Posted by Niraye

you need to stop nit picking and appreciate what we get.

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It's this exact sentiment though for why we get less and less each passing year.

Edit: I should clarify, less and less for our sub.