How am I meant to level with a friend now?

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Originally Posted by LuxLex

Once again, I don't care what XI was like a decade ago. I play the XI of today.

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then idc about FFXIV now, I care about the FFXIV on release day =)

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Originally Posted by Dubont

how am I pulling numbers out of my butt? Did you not read Warp's post? "i sury but math iz 2harrd!"

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Math requires more than than 1 number. Warp only posted 1 number. You posted two. You also ignored the fact that players declining could have happened anywhere in that time period, and that they all left for different reasons.

And yes, some butthurt people left because of abyssea because their gear which they spent 5 years slaving away for was obselete. /shrugs

A lot of people like me have come back because they can have a life AND play the game now.

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Originally Posted by Dubont

then idc about FFXIV now, I care about the FFXIV on release day =)

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you mean 9 months ago? Well, it sucked even more than what we have now.

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Originally Posted by LuxLex

Math requires more than than 1 number. Warp only posted 1 number. You posted two. You also ignored the fact that players declining could have happened anywhere in that time period, and that they all left for different reasons.

And yes, some butthurt people left because of abyssea because their gear which they spent 5 years slaving away for was obselete. /shrugs

A lot of people like me have come back because they can have a life AND play the game now.

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I have a life...and I spend it playing video games. Problem? Also, yes, I posted 2 numbers. 1 number was the amount of subs before Abyssea and the other is the amount of subs now. Yes, people could have left for different reasons, but it is odd that the number of subs was on a pretty steady increase until Abyssea's release. Is logic hard for you?

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Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX

Back then FFXI had more subs.

I think it's more relevant.

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Back then there were very few mmos in the market. Sorry man, things change. And I am sorry, but if you can't understand that a decade old game will lose subs just because of fatigue, and dated graphics, not to mention people getting interested in new games, etc... well, you don't understand what rationality and logic is.

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Originally Posted by Warp

lol, I'm using a source that keeps track of all the characters in the game. What's yours?

Also, active characters =/= active accounts

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http://forums.ffxiclopedia.org/viewt...hp?f=1&t=16794
http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html

This is a count of active accounts, not characters, btw.

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Originally Posted by LuxLex

you mean 9 months ago? Well, it sucked even more than what we have now.

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but it had more players and every server was literally full. Almost everyone was put into a queue for logging in. Figaro, on release day, had around 3k players at my time of login. This isn't counting how many were still in queue, or waiting on the Standard edition. Also, to use your argument against you, FFXi sucks more now than it did 3 years ago. =)

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Originally Posted by Dubont

I have a life...and I spend it playing video games. Problem? Also, yes, I posted 2 numbers. 1 number was the amount of subs before Abyssea and the other is the amount of subs now. Yes, people could have left for different reasons, but it is odd that the number of subs was on a pretty steady increase until Abyssea's release. Is logic hard for you?

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You posted two numbers - one without a source.

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Originally Posted by LuxLex

Guess what, I am talking of the XI of today, not the XI of the past. I don't care what XI used to be like. I care about the XI I play today.



What is "correctly leveling" - It is easy to get a job from 1-50 in XI in a day - no abyssea required. Can you level a job in XIV from 1-50 in a day? You're wrong. Period.

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How is leveling 1-50 in a day fun!?!? O.o

You know for awhile as i was reading your posts i thought wow maybe FFXI might have gotten a little better after the abyssea content (i left shortly after its release) but now i can see, they just made things worse... rest in piece good FFXI ; ;

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Originally Posted by LuxLex

You posted two numbers - one without a source.

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which one was without a source? The count before abyssea or the count now? Here's a good source http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html
My statement is still valid, still holds true and still proves that Abyssea hurt FFXI much more than WoW =)