Confirmation of Uncapped Raids. Confirmation of a terrible decision.

Ugh.
Unfortunate call.
A lot of us can't make our levels appropriate for R30 content ourselves, so it'll never be fun. It'll just be something we blow through if we ever even use it.

Maybe the R30 raid focusses on SP and yeah you get some good loot for midlevellers thus there's not a whole lot of point for a R50 to be wasting their time in it.

That'd be fine.

It's still inferior to giving current players two full raids at a designed challenge, not one raid at a designed challenge then a cakewalk they just blow through to get stash.

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

No, people are upset because it will be played as though it was endgame by the community at large. Meaning those of us who try to form a PUG with our R30 will get three R25-30's together, then one of them will say, "wait i hav my r50 frend otw to pl us lol" and that's all she wrote.

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i got a huge feeling youll easily find people to do it that arent 50s
or people who have 50s(and lower jobs) who will GLADLY go on that lower job to run it at the range you desire for it

so that shouldnt be a problem

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

people dont care about those who arent yet in the game or leveled to 50
they only care about having rank 50 content now, and if it isnt, they want it to be forced to be a challenge for rank 50s also

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I believe that if people were constrained to reroll their character every notorious patch they'd cry no more =D

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Originally Posted by Eekiki

No, people are upset because it will be played as though it was endgame by the community at large. Meaning those of us who try to form a PUG with our R30 will get three R25-30's together, then one of them will say, "wait i hav my r50 frend otw to pl us lol" and that's all she wrote.

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And that is when you kindly say "No Thanks" You DON'T have to accept a higher lvl person in your pt.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

ok then if its about what YOU do in the game, why do YOU care what I do in the game?

if thats truewly how you feel, then you shouldnt care if i go through it on my 50

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I never once said I care what you do. Why do you keep thinking that I give a damn about what you do ingame? AGAIN this is about how I play the game.

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Then run it as a rank 30! lol. For pete's sake. Are you familiar with how the armoury system in FFXIV works?

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By the time this patch hits I wont have any 25-30 jobs left and I shouldn't be forced to leave one at mid content level just to experience the dungeon with a challenge. Are you familiar with common sense?

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Originally Posted by Richard

Its not about YOU. Its about what I MYSELF do in game. I personally don't want to be forced to steamroll a R.30 dungeon because I have all jobs above the recommended dungeon level.

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Oh well, then it's a good thing you don't have all your jobs above the recommended level then: http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com...cicuid=1384495

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

that is not a problem at all, thats something entirely different then whats going on here


but let me tell you what i really think


difficulty scaling, like leves, thats whats really needed here. you want a challenge, 5 star that baby!
of course, you can 1 star it too....but thats also your choice

its about choices and not being forced to do things a specific way(especialy when as i have stated, its NOT endgame content)

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Why would anyone do 5-stars if there is no incentive? Also scaling is not really good for replay value because at one point you will still out-level the content and be able to take people on your 5-star runs while they sit back and you clear everything. Optional cap with better rewards offers that, rewarded challenge for those who wish and no challenge for the others who wants that. So that even in 5 years, if you want to help a new person get those special rewards, you still have a challenge waiting.

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Originally Posted by Richard

I never once said I care what you do. Why do you keep thinking that I give a damn about what you do ingame? AGAIN this is about how I play the game.



By the time this patch hits I wont have any 25-30 jobs left and I should be forced to Leave one at mid content level just to experience the dungeon with a challenge. Are you familiar with common sense?

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so if you dont care how i play the game why do you w3ant to force me to play it your way?

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Originally Posted by EgweneALvere

And that is when you kindly say "No Thanks" You DON'T have to accept a higher lvl person in your pt.

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World doesn't work that way. You can say that, doesn't mean it's useful advice.

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Originally Posted by DurtiMonkeyToe

Then run it as a rank 30! lol. For pete's sake. Are you familiar with how the armoury system in FFXIV works?

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Our point is, we don't have R30's anymore. So yes, we are very familiar with the armoury system.