Cash shop confirmed

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Originally Posted by Vhailor

Yes, because clearly my upgrade to the CE, made primarily out of gratitude to SE for successfully transforming their next-gen MMO into something I wanted to play, is the same thing as a cash shop. Totally the same thing. /sarcasm

There's no reason to try and ridicule people with valid opinions and, if you are going to do so, using something other than an irrelevant one-liner is preferable.

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God forbid you actually bought the Collector's Edition for the Security Token or Art book or any of other selection of physical goods.

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Originally Posted by zar

lol @ people against cash shop yet have the deluxe edition

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Well to be fair, it came with a mini soundtrack, dvd with cutscenes, art book, and security token in addition to in-game items. The in-game items were just an extra bonus to those tangible items.

And yes, this excludes the digital deluxe edition. I can't say I disagree in that case.

Still, I'm not sure how this pertains to selling previously available items for cash.

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Originally Posted by SongJoohee

God forbid you actually bought the Collector's Edition for the Security Token or Art book or any of other selection of physical goods.

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Or got it as a gift from a friend :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

Has any MMORPG ever randomly raised its subscription?

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I agree with your post for all the points made. I do want to point out, though, that I have experienced an MMORPG in the past raise it's subscription fee while I was playing. I want to say it was EverQuest II, but I'm not positive on that and I really don't care enough to go back and try to find it. So it does happen. And personally I'd rather a subscription increase of $1-$2 a month over putting in a cash shop. It feels more honest to me since I knew it was a possibility in the long run.

It's always felt shady to me when a company changes the way a customer funds it like this (more the how, not the how much like a subscription increase). I went into the game with the concept of "It's a monthly subscription game. All evidence shows I get all access to the game for that subscription. Of course, I'll have to buy expansions and the like." And Yoshi P has made numerous points about how the game needs to be a monthly subscription model and the benefits of it. No where that I have seen anywhere has there even been a hint to a cash shop for anything more than appearance change, server change, and (maybe one day...) name change services like most MMOs, no matter their subscription model, have. Generally the additional cost is because it's a one-off service feature.

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Originally Posted by zar

lol @ people against cash shop yet have the deluxe edition

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I'm against cash shop. I have the collector's edition. I played the beta of 1.0 right before release and decided I didn't care for it. I was working in retail when 1.0 came out. I wandered by the gaming section a while after release and saw a CE box for about $30 I think it was since no one wanted it. I scooped it up. I love the nifty things you get in the CE boxes. The physical things are what usually attract me to those. Having the CE and being against a cash shop is not hypocritical in the least, even though you try to imply it is.

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Originally Posted by zar

lol @ people against cash shop yet have the deluxe edition

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deluxe edition is a one time purchase that enhances the game on a microscopic scale. cash shops are continuously updated and worsen the game on a microscopic scale. how is this difficult for you to understand?

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Originally Posted by zar

lol @ people against cash shop yet have the deluxe edition

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lol @ people who are for the cash shop because it's "vanity only" and therefore somehow does not matter -- yet, without fail, they are always the ones with fancy hats, glasses, or other unique gear skins they worked to earn in-game

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Originally Posted by Fyrebrand

lol @ people who are for the cash shop because it's "vanity only" and therefore somehow does not matter -- yet, without fail, they are always the ones with fancy hats, glasses, or other unique gear skins they worked to earn in-game

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Honestly, there was a wonderful woman who got turned into a meme that once said "I ain't got time for that!"

I have a limited amount of time to play. would I rather spend my time getting this fancy hat and gear, or would I rather make some gil, and practice for ScoB? Ill pay $10 dollars for my looks, thank you.

in other news, 1125 posts? really people? #nolife

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Originally Posted by tocsin

in other news, 1125 posts? really people? #nolife

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But...you're posting here...too....smh

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Originally Posted by tocsin

in other news, 1125 posts? really people? #nolife

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For implying they have no life I find it hilarious that you've posted endless amount of times in this thread. I wonder how having a life implies constant stalking and posting in this thread. lol

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Originally Posted by tocsin

Honestly, there was a wonderful woman who got turned into a meme that once said "I ain't got time for that!"

I have a limited amount of time to play. would I rather spend my time getting this fancy hat and gear, or would I rather make some gil, and practice for ScoB? Ill pay $10 dollars for my looks, thank you.

in other news, 1125 posts? really people? #nolife

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YES! please add scob skins with no stats, that shouldn't bother anyone right? :rolleyes: