Sorry SE, but endgame won't work if you don't fix something.

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Originally Posted by StarBright

Well with the latest Live Letter and no mention of addressing this issue (in addition to implying that 2.1 is still months away), that's 2 more accounts that have had their renewal canceled. I'll check back in 2014 and see if SE has made a properly functioning MMO yet.

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I assume you mean the Letter from the Producer rather than Live Letter, but yeah, it's pretty annoying. I thought he'd finally address the issue when he mentioned end-game and hard-mode primals, but instead he just goes on about tomestone drops. I could hardly care less about them if they don't do something about the lag. Unfortunately I made the mistake to pay for six months, otherwise I'd probably cancel as well until it's fixed.

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Originally Posted by billydata21

It's about learning his rotation and having everybody know it. If you know when he is about to do weight, then start moving before he casts the ability.

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You are explaining how to work around the problem we are trying to address the underlying issue. What if they started adding dynamic mechanics to fights that didn't follow a set pattern? Even a fight like demon wall would become challenging if repel happened randomly and somewhat faster, not because the mechanic is difficult, but because you would only have an 80% chance of the server recognizing a successful dodge. Rote memorization is alright for early boss content like Titan but it really limits where you can go as the game progresses, right now people who don't really read the thread think it's about the Titan fight, but it's really about the long term future of the game.

Where is the question thread for the live letter so we can spam it with this problem?

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Originally Posted by Goreth

right now people who don't really read the thread think it's about the Titan fight, but it's really about the long term future of the game.

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Thank god. Someone finally printed it in black and white.

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Originally Posted by Deiv

I just love the "It's not a problem for me so there isn't a problem, you are all just noobs" posts. Like WTF? If it's not a problem for these people why are they even looking at this post? I think 111 pages on the subject has warranted it a big problem. Not all of us are leet gamers and I doubt that SE intended this to be an exclusive game for leet gamers.

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There were also hundreds of pages about this during beta.

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Originally Posted by Gravehill

There were also hundreds of pages about this during beta.

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Yes there was, and we did get a reply (which can be found on one of the earlier pages in this thread).

Basically saying that the latency was due to them monitoring the servers during tests. Yoshi then preceded to finish it off with a blanket statement that even the fastest internet will have some very small delay bla bla bla.. (but it wasn't going to be 300ms positional lag + geographical latency)..

They just need to investigate bringing more checks to client side.. I mean we already have RMT's and botters using teleport hacks.. The "server side positional checks" being more secure is kind of blown out of the window with that one.

PSO2 for example, doesn't have all this teleport botting garbage, yet they are practically completely client side.

Is Square Enix ever going to listen or what?

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Originally Posted by billydata21

If you know when he is about to do weight, then start moving before he casts the ability.

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this is absurd, moving before the weights appears only puts them out of stack and kills other people, its clear you have not been to the last phase

I think the majority have realised that it's a problem now.
... Just the occasional few people thinking they're better than everyone else because their lag isn't AS BAD. Still exists, but not as bad as others. They see it, but they won't admit it.

I have a fabulous connection, yes this game has the worse positional/delay in any mmorpg i have ever played. Quite sad.