So... that spiderman shirt... (new job tease)

Could it be at all possible we may see a merging of classic jobs? Something like a BLU+SAM (FFT Samurai Drawout Skills or FFVII Soldier), BLU+DNC (FFX-2 GunMage)?

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Originally Posted by DBelmont

I see your point. I personally connected the strings/webs to the Puppetmaster as a possible itteration where it may use strings to attack and manipulate the puppet at the same time. However, Puppetmaster does not feel like an FF classic which most likely makes it less of a candidate. Could it indeed be BLU then?

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Ah I understand what you were getting at now. I think it could be BLU. Especially since there are rumored to be only 2 jobs in Stormblood. Puppet Master and Samurai just seem a lot easier to implement than a Blue Mage. There would be no reason to not have 3 jobs unless there is a time and resource issue. And I think Blue Mage might be taking up that time with the creation of numerous Blue Magic spells on monsters, players, and implementing a way that players acquire them.

If you look at the new Spider-Man movie coming out in 2017 its called Homecoming..which is a dance shown in the movie trailer as well as the title.

I am still sticking with Dancer lol.

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Originally Posted by Alacran

Could it be at all possible we may see a merging of classic jobs? Something like a BLU+SAM (FFT Samurai Drawout Skills or FFVII Soldier), BLU+DNC (FFX-2 GunMage)?

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I think merging some jobs would be a neat idea but would possibly piss a lot of people off who just want a pure Samurai or pure Blue Mage lol

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Originally Posted by Iromi

If you look at the new Spider-Man movie coming out in 2017 its called Homecoming..which is a dance shown in the movie trailer as well as the title.

I am still sticking with Dancer lol.

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Yoshi should have worn this
http://i.imgur.com/QVYcFjU.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lufir

How does it sound like puppet master? Just curious because they have never used strings or webs. Puppet Master was only a full fledged job in FFXI and it controlled things remotely with an automaton. Other than that, you can only find very loose (and I mean very loosely) hints of a "puppet master" in 1 or 2 final fantasies. Which brings me to the very quote you posted by Yoshida: "I stated earlier that we will implement jobs true to the FF series..." Puppet master is not true to the series. However, Blue Mage is true to the series. It can be found in nearly every final fantasy title. Even more than Samurai.

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Well Yoshida doesn't really want to do either ofd Puppetmaster or Blue Mage so it's a moot point. But people really do connect puppets with strings in their minds so spider webber could still mean puppet master. My problem with Blue Mage now is that we already have a DPS caster with Red Mage. And we might not get more than two jobs.

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Originally Posted by Alacran

Could it be at all possible we may see a merging of classic jobs? Something like a BLU+SAM (FFT Samurai Drawout Skills or FFVII Soldier), BLU+DNC (FFX-2 GunMage)?

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Don't think so. Yoshie-P wants to do classic jobs. Especially now with the 30th anniversary of the series.

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Originally Posted by Iromi

If you look at the new Spider-Man movie coming out in 2017 its called Homecoming..which is a dance shown in the movie trailer as well as the title.


I am still sticking with Dancer lol.

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That would make it a lot less direct than previuous hints, but I wouldn't mind a dancer. Especially if itd nothing like the monk in the trailer. Let's make it an evasion tank and turn Samurai into a healer.

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Originally Posted by Lufir

I think merging some jobs would be a neat idea but would possibly piss a lot of people off who just want a pure Samurai or pure Blue Mage lol

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Well in the end players will still get pissed off, acconrding to the tweet they erased there is only 2 new jobs.
We already have RED meaning just 1 to go so either DNC, BLU or SAM team will be served, the others will be disapointed and will see countless threads saying the new jobs suck and their favorite would have been better ^^"

All theories have basically been said. The only 3 plausible for me are.

- Sam Raimi theory = Samurai (I honestly doubt it with the hint yoshi-p dropped in an interview of spiderman having different directors)
- Bitten by a spider, gain spider powers = Blue mage (most plausible even if I hope it isn't)
- Spiderman agility = Dancer (The one that I'll hope it will be, but have my doubts about. Even though it's plausible in my opinion)
- Web strings = Puppetmaster (Seems unlikely, considering there are better marvel heroes to hint that)

Personally, I hope that they make some kind of Dancer / Blue mage hybrid class. Satisfy both crowds. And the dancer/blue mage garment always had something of an arabian belly dancer. Not to mention that Blu/Dnc in ffxi used to be a common thing.

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Originally Posted by Vydos

All theories have basically been said. The only 3 plausible for me are.

- Sam Raimi theory = Samurai (I honestly doubt it with the hint yoshi-p dropped in an interview of spiderman having different directors)
- Bitten by a spider, gain spider powers = Blue mage (most plausible even if I hope it isn't)
- Spiderman agility = Dancer (The one that I'll hope it will be, but have my doubts about. Even though it's plausible in my opinion)
- Web strings = Puppetmaster (Seems unlikely, considering there are better marvel heroes to hint that)

Personally, I hope that they make some kind of Dancer / Blue mage hybrid class. Satisfy both crowds. And the dancer/blue mage garment always had something of an arabian belly dancer. Not to mention that Blu/Dnc in ffxi used to be a common thing.

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You forgot the best one: None of the above, but something else entirely that will seem obvious in hindsight.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

You forgot the best one: None of the above, but something else entirely that will seem obvious in hindsight.

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True, that's obviously very plausible as well.

I found this in the "appearance" section of BLU for FFV:

Blue Mages have a vaguely "superhero" look. Most of the costume is blue, with a cape and shoulder pads, a domino mask.

For some reason it feels really close to the Spiderman teaser. Also this:

It is the first utility job in the game, providing both offensive and defensive capabilities. Unlike most other spellcasting jobs, Blue Mages can wield not only the common spellcaster equipment, but also swords and shields, giving them more offense and defense than a regular mage.

This kinda hints at the idea of BLU possibly being a tank.

I'm actually in a different camp, I don't really care what the class is, in the end whatever it is it'll ( hopefully) be fun to play.

If you look at the spider-man villains notice anything? There are a ton of animal based villains. I think it may point to not dancer, not samurai, and yes, not bluemage. I think it maybe beast master. This is just grasping straws, then again, most theories are at this point. Think about it, the job should work into Ala Mhigan lore since this is the Ala Mhigan expansion pack (The Ala Mhigan Griffon Knights anyone?). Ala Mhigo also has blade dancers, which could lend itself to the actual Dancer class I suppose. Now, I'm not the one who came up with this theory, but I thought it would be nice to toss out here. Make of it what you will!

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Originally Posted by DBelmont

I found this in the "appearance" section of BLU for FFV:

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Is that from official content for FFV? I'm leaning towards Blue as well. Spider webbing -> enemy skills, spiders -> comes from mob, and we now have 3 instances of the colors red and blue (duelling monks / theorized dancer, poem, traditional Spiderman colors.)

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Originally Posted by aesteval

Is that from official content for FFV? I'm leaning towards Blue as well. Spider webbing -> enemy skills, spiders -> comes from mob, and we now have 3 instances of the colors red and blue (duelling monks / theorized dancer, poem, traditional Spiderman colors.)

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Though at the same time - Spiderman isn't the only superhero clue used in a shirt, so the superhero description could be tenuous.

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Originally Posted by Alacran

Could it be at all possible we may see a merging of classic jobs? Something like a BLU+SAM (FFT Samurai Drawout Skills or FFVII Soldier), BLU+DNC (FFX-2 GunMage)?

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As someone who wants BLU, I'd be fine with a Blue Mage wielding a Great Katana, since I don't really care what weapon they use, but I imagine SAM fans would be pretty upset.

I agree with everyone else who came to the conclusion that the Spiderman shirt was a hint that Samurai will be one of the new jobs available when Stormblood is released. Sam Raimi....Samurai. Clever, Yoshida san. Very clever.

My childhood memories of the webslingers animated adventures - way, way back seem to suggest something based on very high agility. I mean, Spidey has no real defensive armor, he avoids damage by using various moves that are quite acrobatic, and some quick and fancy foot work too. Not to mention that he's constantly showing off his agility swinging through the city on a web, or crawling up a building to a vantage point. Sure he was know to use his webs to ensnare enemies, and punches were thrown, but generally speaking Spidey was all about agility and speed. Based on that, I have to think dance, I mean it's almost literally the defining quality of who and what Spider-man is. Additionally, Spidey doesn't use a sword, knife or gun, he uses his quick wits and agility to avoid danger and taunt his enemies. I remember several occasions where he was taunting or teasing an enemy because they could not catch him. This sounds very like a possible tank based on agility - aka Dancer.

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Originally Posted by Vydos

(I honestly doubt it with the hint yoshi-p dropped in an interview of spiderman having different directors)

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Why do people keep repeating this? Of course YoshiP is going to deflect, what else is he gonna say, "Oh dang you guys guessed it that's exactly it, mystery solved."? It doesn't matter what he gets asked, he's not going to confirm or debunk anything until the next fanfest. Everything else is just a more coy version of "Please look forward to it."

Same goes for the "spider webber" comment. It's a joke, not the key to a vast conspiracy.

I am 100% sure we're gonna see Samurai in 4.0. Please look forward to it. ;)

I just wants to know!
Do you know how hard it is to go throu my day as a kindergarten/primary school teacher with kids naming spiderman or spiders and not always replying to them samurai confirmed or dancer confirmed?

Be sure you read the New Year's greeting from Yoshi-P

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Be sure you read the New Year's greeting from Yoshi-P

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The new years greeting is only regarding the upcoming patch, and the expansion itself. Azure and Crimson reference the expansion titles in Japanese.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

The new years greeting is only regarding the upcoming patch, and the expansion itself. Azure and Crimson reference the expansion titles in Japanese.

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Yoshi basically told us to "look forward to it". Boring :/

Red and blue keeps coming up. I can think of four references now. It certainly seems hinky if nothing else.

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Red and blue keeps coming up. I can think of four references now. It certainly seems hinky if nothing else.

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It's almost like they're like, colors, man. And as has been stated NUMEROUS TIMES, Azure and Crimson are both part of the JP expansion titles for Heavensward and Stormblood, respectively.

It's not that deep.

It's been a while, and I don't feel like looking it up, does Spidey have any notable appellations like batman's "dark knight"? Besides spidey and old webhead, which don't feel useful.

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Originally Posted by ChazNatlo

It's been a while, and I don't feel like looking it up, does Spidey have any notable appellations like batman's "dark knight"? Besides spidey and old webhead, which don't feel useful.

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He's your friendly neighborhood Spider-Man, but that's about all I can think of.

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Originally Posted by ChazNatlo

It's been a while, and I don't feel like looking it up, does Spidey have any notable appellations like batman's "dark knight"? Besides spidey and old webhead, which don't feel useful.

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Your friendly neighborhood spiderman, The Wall Crawler, Kingpin's favorite: SPIDERMAN!!!!!!! Spectacular Spiderman, Sensational Spiderman, The Amazing Spiderman and of course, Tiger. (That's not all of them by the way.) He's got a lot of titles but nothing that would really hint any jobs.

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Originally Posted by GMERC

It's almost like they're like, colors, man. And as has been stated NUMEROUS TIMES, Azure and Crimson are both part of the JP expansion titles for Heavensward and Stormblood, respectively.

It's not that deep.

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It's entirely possible and likely they plan expansion themes and stories far ahead of time. We had a red and blue reference right after HW came out, before Stormblood was even mentioned. And both colors feature in the trailer, when the Derplander has gone over to being a monk. I don't get into wild speculations. I do find it suspicious that particular combination of colors keeps coming up.

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Originally Posted by StarRosie

Your friendly neighborhood spiderman, The Wall Crawler, Kingpin's favorite: SPIDERMAN!!!!!!! Spectacular Spiderman, Sensational Spiderman, The Amazing Spiderman and of course, Tiger. (That's not all of them by the way.) He's got a lot of titles but nothing that would really hint any jobs.

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Don't forget all the nasty things Jameson calls him, too :D

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

Don't forget all the nasty things Jameson calls him, too :D

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Yeah but that list is way longer and may not be appropriate for these forums! ;)

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Originally Posted by StarRosie

Yeah but that list is way longer and may not be appropriate for these forums! ;)

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Some of the tamer ones, maybe, but definitely not the more outrageous ones!

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

I do find it suspicious that particular combination of colors keeps coming up.

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Red VS Blue is probably most common visual motif basically EVER.

THEY'RE PRIMARY COLORS.

The new Job will be a DOH/DOL Job. It's Photographer. Think about it guys Yoshi P showed the new screenshot editor in game so that's what it is.

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Originally Posted by Yukiko

Actually we already got a DPS with Redmage.
Based that we will get a new Healer, "Chemist" seems to be fitting...
Still, why then Spiderman out of all Scientists in the Marvel Universe?

My bets are on Beastmaster or Puppetmaster, but can it fit the Role as Tank or Heal?

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Originally Posted by aesteval

Hmm, Spiderman is also a bit of a chemist.

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Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP

No, no he's not a bit of a chemist.

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That's true he is not a bit of a chemist, he is a full one. In the Marvel universe Peter Parker has a Doctorate in Biochemistry. Also:

- His costume arbors mostly blue and red, matching the Stormblood color theme, which might explains why choosing that particular chemist and well known hero agmonst other potential ones as a class hint.
- Chemist is a job already existing in past Final Fantasy titles.

So I think its a good candidate
However we already have the DoH Alchemist in the game so.....

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Originally Posted by AshlikeSnow

The new Job will be a DOH/DOL Job. It's Photographer. Think about it guys Yoshi P showed the new screenshot editor in game so that's what it is.

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Not sure about photographer but it is true that nobody said all new jobs will be combat related.

I dont really care what we will get, only that its fun to play (and maybe more than just two classes) but I still like the different ideas you all came up with. But about the colors in the trailer fight, I kinda remember that Yoshi P said something about it being just finished before the fanfest and that the colors at the last part were not planned to be there but the studio that created it put it there for artistic reasons. Not sure in which interview this was mentioned. Maybe they will have a meaning or maybe not but looking for every little clue in any bit of colors is a little too much imo.

It's got to be a Blue Mage.

1. In the preview trailer for the expansion it shows a red woman, and a blue man fighting on top of some huge statue (2 min mark of the trailer)
2. Spiderman wears Red (Red Mage) and Blue (blue mage)
3. Spiderman absorbed the powers of the spider when he was bitten. A Blue Mage absorbs the powers of an enemy when they attack him/her.

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Originally Posted by Kindread

It's got to be a Blue Mage.

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The logic is there, but I am confused about the implementation, not long ago Yoshi P questioned blue mage by saying that it would need to be implemented in a way that was authentic and that XIV is not designed to allow blue mage mechanics. He then went on to say that if they discovered a way then it would be a job that would be considered.

My line of thinking is that BLU makes sense for spiderman, BLU does not make sense for the game right now, nor does it for Yoshi Ps comments.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

My line of thinking is that BLU makes sense for spiderman, BLU does not make sense for the game right now, nor does it for Yoshi Ps comments.

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Easy, you control what the BLU can absorb by only granting the abilities through their story quest. As BLU has always been a sort of hybrid throughout the games it has appeared in, the player could make choices throughout the class quests which would either make it a Tank, Healer, or DPS.

As an example at the start they could choose a quest path, such as 'Path of the bear' for tanking, or 'Path of the Slyph' for healing, etc. This choice could be reset for either a fee, or a quest to 'respec' your character to another Path.

I doubt it will be ANYTHING like that, but because I spent a whole 2 minutes thinking about it, I am guessing Yoshi P can come up with something that would work even better.

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Originally Posted by Lambdafish

The logic is there, but I am confused about the implementation, not long ago Yoshi P questioned blue mage by saying that it would need to be implemented in a way that was authentic and that XIV is not designed to allow blue mage mechanics.

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Considering that they plan to revamp the battle skills somewhat for the expansion, and given the fact that we don't really know how they plan to restructure it, I'd say it's entirely possible that it could happen.

A lot could have happened between the time he made that comment, and time the decisions were ultimately made. All I can say is I am looking forward to it, regardless of the outcome.