Raid boss Drop question on translation

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Originally Posted by Zantetsuken

Not necessarily..

What happens when a party finishes a dungeon, 3 items drop, but nobody can lot (due to timer cooldown)?

Do the drops auto-distribute?

If so, I can see people spamming content more than they do now, not less.


Perhaps, they just are lost... no lot = no drop. Content finder would become a very important system if that was the case.


I'm very curious to see how this system will work. It sounds pretty good overall~

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Yea, seems to me like the drops don't go to any person's loot list like now, but rather remain "dropped" until lotted on.

Also, for parties that plan for specific drops and plan their lot accordingly they can keep playing until it drops and they get it guaranteed like mentioned before me.

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Originally Posted by Bayohne

Greetings,

I wanted to post a clearer version of the specific segment in question here.



Like Yoshida says in the interview, it will be easier to understand the system once you have a chance to try it out. Keep in mind that details are still being discussed and finalized and what is presented here is just a portion of it. As soon as we have more information to share you guys will be the first to hear it!

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Sounds good to me though I will wait for more details before I cast out any negative feelings about such a system. Though compared to what we have now it is 100% better.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

So.. in PUG groups will probably only last one run. Since not everyone will have the same "counter".

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Based on the system though, events most likely won't be designed around the "repeat every 15 minutes until you get something" scheme anymore though.

That's fine with me. I'd rather only have to play a specific content a few times a day at most in order to (example) get the items I want within a few weeks.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Based on the system though, events most likely won't be designed around the "repeat every 15 minutes until you get something" scheme anymore though.

That's fine with me. I'd rather only have to play a specific content a few times a day at most in order to (example) get the items I want within a few weeks.

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I hope that's the way it is too. Doing the same dungeon every night 4 hours a night gets stale quickly.

I initially thought the tokens would be rewarded for everyone in the party that didn't get a rare, whether they lotted or not. Now that we know it's only a consolation prize for lotting, I feel that's more good news than bad.

It means the tokens will also be uncommon, and in turn any gear obtained by them won't necessarily need to be junk.

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

Based on the system though, events most likely won't be designed around the "repeat every 15 minutes until you get something" scheme anymore though.

That's fine with me. I'd rather only have to play a specific content a few times a day at most in order to (example) get the items I want within a few weeks.

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Wipes are going to suck in longer dungeons xd lol

2 hours in, wipe, keyboard goes out window - tower into the shredder

Heheh

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

Yea, seems to me like the drops don't go to any person's loot list like now, but rather remain "dropped" until lotted on.

Also, for parties that plan for specific drops and plan their lot accordingly they can keep playing until it drops and they get it guaranteed like mentioned before me.

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I believe they told us they were going for a 'need, greed, pass' type of looting which I was hoping would mean it went to a central loot list and not directly to each person, but I don't think we know this for sure.

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Originally Posted by Yelta_Sumasu

I believe they told us they were going for a 'need, greed, pass' type of looting which I was hoping would mean it went to a central loot list and not directly to each person, but I don't think we know this for sure.

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Im quite sure that it will be a central loot system for the whole game, no longer auto looted like it is now.

For this dungeon stuff only though it looks like you can only need, not greed. So you spend your token and that is it. No picking up the item rot.

Well, reading about this roll system, i find it very restrictive and punished, how come if you roll and not get lucky you lose 1 of your 4 chances to loot, as some say, there wont be any pugs anymore to start, and if you're not lucky enough you get a token for lesser gear, wtf, i've been always positive with this game, but how the hell are we going to be leashed all week to try content? And i find this consolation price very annoying, is better having 3 chances to loot and if you win you loose one chance, but at least is better than beating content and not getting anything, i give you that...

Once people lose their chances to loot, wont go to any party...will be the same when they delivered the surplus system and that token system sounds like tiers, too WoW for my taste, thats one of the things that screwed that game WoTLK

The system sounds fine to me but, IF the tokens given to the "unlucky" players are for lesser speced gear, then the entire system is a bust and pointless to even implement. The entire point is to give those unlucky players a sense of progression, and adding cheap/crap gear that you will hardly use until you get the drop you wanted all along, makes no sense to me.

As it currently stands this is how I see the system. You can "lot" via the new need/greed system 2-3 times per content in any given week. If you fail you're given a token that can be exchanged for either the equal gear/lesser gear (unconfirmed). HOWEVER I don't believe this system is intended to replace the system players use currently with randoming. So technically you probably still can random/pass like normal but they added the need/greed method as a means for these people to obtain some progress in the dungeon. There will of course be lockouts, but 2/3 lots per person per week would make it impossible to obtain loot thus I don't feel it's the be all and end all.

So we probably can still do what we normally do. That's how I see it, but it's speculation.

EDIT: Thinking more on this idea. It would be havoc and a mess once people run out of lots. The winning lots are more then likely official ones so they would get the loot no matter what, but what happens when you get that one guy in your PT with an official lot, and everyone else doesn't have one. BAM item snagged and your fucked. Official/Unofficial lotting sounds like a pain. lol

I'm looking way to much into this, I hope they got a good system in place.