Repair NPCs in Dungeons

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Originally Posted by Cnidarian

I'm sorry, much like you, each of those NPC Adventurers only wanted to focus on battle classes and absolutely hates crafting. Thus, we are sad to inform you that they can not repair your gear as they have not leveled any DoH classes.

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Oh, if they're just like me, then that's perfect! I've got everything at 60, so that must mean they do too, right? Fantastic, then there really is no problem with them being added in. Not only that, some of these people are professionals in the military (Grand companies), so it wouldn't be surprising to see some of htem with tradeskills!

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Originally Posted by SaitoHikari

This is a far, FAR more reasonable suggestion and I'm 100% surprised this hasn't happened yet.

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I used to wonder why too, then I realized the answer is RMT.
RMT A queues into dungeon A - RMT B miraculously makes it in too. RMT requests repairs from B, offering 100k or whatever monies to B. RMT B repairs and leaves 100k richer. They have managed to move monies between servers (admittedly just within the data center) but they can move gil. I wondered why they don't just cap the repair reward /shrug. It's one of the few things I miss from 1.0.

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

And hell, let's tackle the Lost city of Amdapor, since you somehow thought this was one that would be SO IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to do.
Simply put, you can specialize the NPC's, give them some flavor text if you want, and it builds on the world, isntead of taking away from it. But that's only if you manage to think outside a narrow margin.

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I was just joking, I don't know where I stated how "impossible" this is. Please go get a hug from your mom and chill xD. People are way too prickly on here.
I could really care less, I can repair my own gear, which some people have stated it's a "major" part of the usefulness of DoH and would be detrimental if it was stripped away... O.o please, self repair is a perk, but definitely an afterthought.
So bring on the repair npcs if the community is sooo for it, which after reading this, they're not, so I hope the devs don't waste time on this silly idea xD

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

I was just joking, I don't know where I stated how "impossible" this is. Please go get a hug from your mom and chill xD. People are way too prickly on here.
I could really care less, I can repair my own gear, which some people have stated it's a "major" part of the usefulness of DoH and would be detrimental if it was stripped away... O.o please, self repair is a perk, but definitely an afterthought.
So bring on the repair npcs if the community is sooo for it, which after reading this, they're not, so I hope the devs don't waste time on this silly idea xD

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"I have nothing useful to add, so let's just throw out an insult that insinuates you are a child. Look at me guys, I'm debating!."


Come, can you not have a discussion without resorting to base level insults to try and defend what you said? "This idea takes the cake." "This is just a silly notion." You attempt to discredit others, and then you're surprised when someone can take the three seconds to create the scenario you overlooked that could be reasonable within the narrative of the story?

Also, after reading this, I got the reaction that it's just like any other issue - you have both people for, and people against. There rarely on these forums is an issue that is universally "Approved" of by everyone, from arbitrary reasons such as "It doesn't make sense to the lore", "I'd rather they spend their dev time elsewhere" to "I don't need this so it isn't a problem" (and then to actual reasonable explanations, such as the aforementioned MAteria Melding debate we had a few weeks ago.)

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

"I have nothing useful to add, so let's just throw out an insult that insinuates you are a child. Look at me guys, I'm debating!."


Come, can you not have a discussion without resorting to base level insults to try and defend what you said?

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Something like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I guess I didn't realize I had to defend either my joke or my opinion, so keep on being prickly #twelvespeed

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Originally Posted by Iagainsti

Something like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I guess I didn't realize I had to defend either my joke or my opinion, so keep on being prickly #twelvespeed

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I don't feel you do, but if you go out of your way to make a dismissive statement + joke that tries to tell one side that they are being unrealistic, I do believe you should expect to be countered. However, if I made you feel assaulted or cornered at all, you do have my appologies for that. My only line with you is when you resort to insults after, and perhaps it would be wise to reflect on that in the future. Just my personal thoughts on it.

One thing I noticed following this thread, both sides of the argument have been rude/insulting during it, but usually it seems like the people for op's idea have been worse about it, and have been the ones calling the other side of the argument out on being rude.

Personally though, I don't care much for this idea\ since even some floors of Midas can be cleared when a tank looses their right side gear. Although I don't think it's reasonable for most dungeons to have a repair npc inside, I can agree with a lot of the ideas of having something outside, or a better warning

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Originally Posted by Eidolon

Minimum ilevel already prevents this, and has prevented my friends from derping before.

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don't exist for lv 15-47 and lv 51-59 dungeons

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Originally Posted by Leknaat

I used to wonder why too, then I realized the answer is RMT.
RMT A queues into dungeon A - RMT B miraculously makes it in too. RMT requests repairs from B, offering 100k or whatever monies to B. RMT B repairs and leaves 100k richer. They have managed to move monies between servers (admittedly just within the data center) but they can move gil. I wondered why they don't just cap the repair reward /shrug. It's one of the few things I miss from 1.0.

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SE should just do it without involving a payment.

Player A want his gear to get repaired in the dungeon and activate a repair request. Player B right click on Player A to repair all the stuff that Player B can repair and the needed Dark Matters get automatic removed from Player A because Player B used the Dark Matters of Player A for the repairs.

No payment or trade involved

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Originally Posted by Felis

don't exist for lv 15-47 and lv 51-59 dungeons


SE should just do it without involving a payment.

Player A want his gear to get repaired in the dungeon and activate a repair request. Player B right click on Player A to repair all the stuff that Player B can repair and the needed Dark Matters get automatic removed from Player A because Player B used the Dark Matters of Player A for the repairs.

No payment or trade involved

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This idea would be great, but then they have to remember to take up an inventory slot with Dark Matter, AND Hope that they are going to have someone in the dungoun that can repair their gear... Instead of doing this, it'd be better to just add an NPC.

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Originally Posted by Adire

You do realize that durability is there as a way to remove gil from the economy, correct?

That's exactly what a dungeon NPC's purpose would fulfill. That's why we have NPCs outside of dungeons too....

I understand that lots of people enjoy unnecessary and purposeless inconvenience, but I'll never understand why exactly.

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Wow, I had to do a double take for this one. So, basically because you're too important to walk over to one of the massive number of NPCs who can repair your gear including the ones in your FC house, private house, friends house and Personal Chamber, you want an NPC to set up show in the midst of each dungeon to mitigate your laziness?

Perhaps one time I have seen someone who's gear got to 0 durability, they put something else on and kept going, and remembered to repair in future. I mean really, you can't just walk up to an NPC and repair your gear before entering a dungeon? Why?