Sell Fantasia on the Mogstation

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Originally Posted by LordSaviour

I don't think there has to be any back story as to why they introduce Fantasia into the Mog Station. Hell, we re run the same dungeons day in day out. Yet the mobs are still there each time and he bosses some how come back?!?!

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Yes, with dungeons it is a rather necessary evil, you got no real option there. The internal logic of the world should be kept as much as possible, because that's what makes a great world for me.

Edit: One good example of something that actually did not need to be explained, but they chose to explain it due to allow it to be consistent with the internal logic of the world: the teleportation system.

They put effort into explaining why teleportation works like it works in this world. They took an effort into making teleportation something that makes sense within that world. And like I've written above: I do think they should try to keep the things consistent with the internal logic of the world as much as possible.

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Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl

Given this new information: it is clear that the Fantasia potions needs be kept rare to not break against the "Legend" status it currently has and I would definitely encourage SquareEnix to change the usage of the potion so that you have to wait until the ingame morning to see the change :).

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Any notion of something in the game's lore being "legendary" or "rare" has no bearing on game mechanics or its in-game availability. According to the game there is only ONE non-padjal white mage in existence. Just think about that for a bit.

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Originally Posted by Reyno

Any notion of something in the game's lore being "legendary" or "rare" has no bearing on game mechanics or its in-game availability. According to the game there is only ONE non-padjal white mage in existence. Just think about that for a bit.

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A well-crafted world tries its best to keep the game as consistent as possible with the internal logic of the world. SquareEnix has a done a great job so far and they should keep doing a as good job as possible. Sure, all will not follow the logic, like the respawning of dungeons, due to deep conflicts with game mechanics, but just because some parts have failed to follow the logic, it doesn't mean that should stop trying to do so for the rest of the game. They should try to follow the internal logic as much as possible. In the case of Fantasia, they are multiple ways to keep them consistent with the internal logic and I hope they do so.

I haven't played white mage, so I can't comment on your white mage statement.

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Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl

One good example of something that actually did not need to be explained, but they chose to explain it due to allow it to be consistent with the internal logic of the world: the teleportation system.

They put effort into explaining why teleportation works like it works in this world. They took an effort into making teleportation something that makes sense within that world. And like I've written above: I do think they should try to keep the things consistent with the internal logic of the world as much as possible.

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Yes, it does make sense for them to explain In-Game Mechanics, like teleporting.

But for a random item that not everyone will choose to partake in needs no back story. I don't recall them writing a back story in regards to World Transfer services.

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Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl

A well-crafted world tries its best to keep the game as consistent as possible with the internal logic of the world. SquareEnix has a done a great job so far and they should keep doing a as good job as possible. Sure, all will not follow the logic, like the respawning of dungeons, due to deep conflicts with game mechanics, but just because some parts have failed to follow the logic, it doesn't mean that should stop trying to do so for the rest of the game. They should try to follow the internal logic as much as possible. In the case of Fantasia, they are multiple ways to keep them consistent with the internal logic and I hope they do so.

I haven't played white mage, so I can't comment on your white mage statement.

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Like I said, this "internal logic" that you speak of is destroyed every time you play with a white mage. There is literally ONE white mage according to the game. Yet here we have WHMs running around all willy nilly, all wielding their pretty Thyrus relics. Speaking of relics, many of them are one-of-a-kind. One. This is as opposed to something like the fantasia potion which could easily become something mass produced by the alchemist guild. You speak of a "well-crafted world" but seem to ignore that everything you don't want is already happening all around you just for the sake of making an argument against fantasia potions? Just say that you don't want them to be purchasable items instead of creating a baseless argument.

It's ok, HurtigeKarl has been against this from the very beginning... I have no idea why either, changing someones personal appearance doesn't effect anyone whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by HurtigeKarl

Yes, with dungeons it is a rather necessary evil, you got no real option there. The internal logic of the world should be kept as much as possible, because that's what makes a great world for me.

Edit: One good example of something that actually did not need to be explained, but they chose to explain it due to allow it to be consistent with the internal logic of the world: the teleportation system.

They put effort into explaining why teleportation works like it works in this world. They took an effort into making teleportation something that makes sense within that world. And like I've written above: I do think they should try to keep the things consistent with the internal logic of the world as much as possible.

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Considering they already offered a maximum of two for some characters, this 'consistency' has already broken.

The would should contain some from of consistency, but seeing as they're adding this as an optional service now we can only hope that the (hopefully) high price will deter people from using this as a weekly "LOL i'll change to Lalafell this week", £15-20 is a HUGE amount of money, almost double the subscription most would pay. (Basing the price off other MMOs with a similar service)

It's been proven with other MMOs and the like that these services don't get abused often, your world consistency will be safe, however it won't be wrapped in cotton wool.

I can completely understand why you and many others (including myself) want it kept as a rare or expensive thing to deter players using it often.
I personally hate seeing people I've known as "That Lalafell" suddenly changing to a Roegadyn, but increasingly i've noticed that I get used to the change and completely forget about it within a few weeks and they simply become "That Roegdayn".

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Originally Posted by Rekujen

It's ok, HurtigeKarl has been against this from the very beginning... I have no idea why either, changing someones personal appearance doesn't effect anyone whatsoever.

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Not true, there are a lot of people in-game that you'll metter, get to know or simply recognise, there is an unsettled effect of inconsistency as to how you actually know that person based on their appearance when they suddenly change from a Lalafell to a Roegdayn. Saying it doesn't affect anyone else at all simply isn't true.

At the end of the day it is just a character and you can adjust to the new change, but saying people aren't affect by it is simply silly.

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Originally Posted by GabrielK

I'm pretty confident they'll add Fantasia potion as a paid optional service in the future.
The question is, when?

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No need for any confidence, it's already confirmed check the original post.

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Originally Posted by edweird

Got my fantasia today, after putting the request in on the 22nd.

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I put my ticket in on the same day and I'm still waiting. I've submitted several increasingly unsatisfied tickets and replies recently to try to prod them into action. So far I just keep getting the run around with obviously automated messages; it has been 22 days. If they are really doing these on a "first come first served" basis (I doubt) and they really have so many tickets that a simple item restore takes this long, then they should be hiring more staff. This is unacceptable for something that should take a couple of days.

I am actually thinking about quitting my game over not just this,
I have wrote them a few times via email with questions but I never get answers or even acknowledgement of the questions that I have asked about either my account or ingame issues. This tells me A lot and the fact that I was told I could have my game account banned for talking about customer service and when something is posted as a due date or a promise to the customer of that when it is broken and not a single word or update I called it false advertisement I was threatened. Know this SE, I was never bashing or putting the company down and I did not break the tos at all please review what I wrote you through my email. I have never been through this with any game before. I just want customer service and an open forum that they can talk back to us like 99.99% of games do!

P.S. The thing that bugs me most is Final Fantasy is my favorite roleplaying game(s) rather offline or online and I as many support you SE, Please show us something back :)

I'm talking the entire history of final fantasy is a big part of my world and many others...
I remember when ff8 came out and they did a thing with Toyota and squall standing next to this new car, I went to game stop and bought this huge sign with the artwork for it. Also ff7 has been a huge part of my love for rpg's as well as the music that nobuo uematsu put out for the majority of the games including ff a realm reborn, The art style, Everything.

I love stuff like in this picture (detail) Concept Art
http://www.selectgame.com.br/wp-cont...ept-Art-01.jpg

I agree. Many players are requesting Vials of Fantasia to change their race. I am tired of looking at my female roegadyn that I even started a new character just to play on the side. Please SE, make this an available option soon. If not pay through mogstation, at least an let us buy it with in game currancy such as 50,000 Grand Company seals or tomestones of philosophy.