Super General Discussion 2.0 - Always offering a happy, fun time~!

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Given that break, I got a lore-related question regarding the situations in Sun Miqo'te tribes/groups, because I am thinking of writing some short snippets about Coris' childhood/youth/etc.
If there is a leader (Nunh) change or 'foreign' women with kids from other Nunh join the group, would the Nunh in charge have to accept the kids from another Nunh? o.o
Just wondering if this is too animal-like (check the description of the Cat-Minion!) or not... Should head over to the Lore forums?

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I think the lore forums would be your best bet. They're great at breaking down even the tiniest tidbit to understand how and why things are the way they are in the game. I'm sure there'd be some kitty experts in there that know all the ins and outs of the kitty cultures. Just remember to bring Antanias along with you, his yarn will likely be needed in that crowd.

Haven't posted in forever here.

Achievements in the last few weeks? Let's see... T6 finally cleared with my FC (we resumed raiding after a nearly 5 month break). 4 star weaver crafting achieved. Working on a picture to commemorate that event. (please look forward to it?)

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If there is a leader (Nunh) change or 'foreign' women with kids from other Nunh join the group, would the Nunh in charge have to accept the kids from another Nunh? o.o
Just wondering if this is too animal-like (check the description of the Cat-Minion!) or not... Should head over to the Lore forums?

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Given the fact there's two Tias fighting for succession in the Forgotten Springs Village as part of the quests over there, I'm pretty sure that once either of them succeeds, they will not wipe out all the huntresses and children of the former leader -- that'd be mass genocide. I assume, however, that the loser between the two Tias would end up be dead (duel to the death, or killed along the father to eliminate competition and become leader by default) or exiled. Perhaps kept as Tia, depending on the character of the new leader.

Pretty much the same way a new mayor would not change everything about how a city is run, but some might, I'm certain that Mi'qotes aren't more or less likely to act like jerks -- Just like Hyurs or other species, it's all up to the individual.

Thanks for your replies!

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Given the fact there's two Tias fighting for succession in the Forgotten Springs Village as part of the quests over there, I'm pretty sure that once either of them succeeds, they will not wipe out all the huntresses and children of the former leader -- that'd be mass genocide. I assume, however, that the loser between the two Tias would end up be dead (duel to the death, or killed along the father to eliminate competition and become leader by default) or exiled. Perhaps kept as Tia, depending on the character of the new leader.

Pretty much the same way a new mayor would not change everything about how a city is run, but some might, I'm certain that Mi'qotes aren't more or less likely to act like jerks -- Just like Hyurs or other species, it's all up to the individual.

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I didn't think of killing all the children and women, more like forcing them to leave :S Maybe when they're old enough, then they have to go?
If I want to publish my texts on the Lodestone, then I think I will have to ask again. Just to be sure. At the moment I more want to write them for myself and my FC (if they're interested xD)

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I didn't think of killing all the children and women, more like forcing them to leave :S Maybe when they're old enough, then they have to go?

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I agree you probably should get a more official answer from the Lore gurus, but I don't think any of the women of the Drake (U') tribe would need to leave because of a change of leadership. Some of them might decide to follow another male if they don't think highly enough of the new leadership, and thus opt to leave of their own will.

For the rest of them, however, I'm pretty sure a change of Nuhn is about as relevant as a municipal election and has no real bearing on their day to day life -- hunting, gathering, mending cloth, etc. Survival as a tribe of hunters in a hostile environment is hard work, and there's likely very little time to care about who sits on the throne back at home -- unless he happens to fancy your company that night, that is.

Hello Everyone. Wasn't sure where to share this awesome hand made chocobo and I thought this would be the best place. She makes a bunch of other cool geeky hats and gloves. I've been told a moogle hat is in the works and knitted moogle plush. Well hope some of you enjoy looking at her stuff. Oh and I got 50 BSM last night only 2 more crafts to go!

https://www.etsy.com/listing/210557852/fat-chocobo

https://img0.etsystatic.com/059/0/85...47004_dkwg.jpg

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Thanks for your replies!

I didn't think of killing all the children and women, more like forcing them to leave :S Maybe when they're old enough, then they have to go?
If I want to publish my texts on the Lodestone, then I think I will have to ask again. Just to be sure. At the moment I more want to write them for myself and my FC (if they're interested xD)

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I did something similar with my Character's background story if you remember. Basically, C'rysta Zeith is the Daughter of C'zeith Tia and C'ashya Ayzr. I wanted to create a background story where C'rysta's father was not one the Nuhn's who had more then 1 females "under his wing" so to speak. So, i made him a Tia instead.

You can find C'rysta's background story on my Lodestone Blog. Maybe you can come up with some idea's for your own background story. (^_^ )

I would think a change of Nunh would be of benefit - you wouldn't want to mate with your grandpa, for example.

Also, there is possibly other sections of the U tribe around the globe - not just the faction we see in Southern Thanalan. So, it could be very possible for tribe members to migrate from one group to another.

For example, my character is a nunh of the Viper tribe, who migrated to Eorzea as tia to primarily establish a better territory for the L tribe

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you wouldn't want to mate with your grandpa, for example.

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Well, could you could even technically mate with your grandpa as far as Sun'qotes go?
I suppose it could happen that a Nuhn loses his spot and manages to win it back 15 or so years later, and thus have a generation sired by his son... Avoiding this is why I assume defeated Nuhns are killed more often than exiled.

If it's the Nuhn who sired you, he's your dad. Mating with him when you get of age, regardless if he sired your mother or not, still makes him your direct father. That can be sound totally gross to us humans.
If he's retired or exiled, you wouldn't mate with your granddad.

Depending on how human or how "lion-like" Sun'qote society is, some things that are hard to consider for us humans might actually be perfectly fine for them. Anyone who manages to stay Nuhn for 30+ years got to have good genes. Wouldn't you want your daughters to have those to help them survive against the hazards of everyday life?

In a society where basic needs is far from assumed (shelter, survival, food, etc.), lots of things take a step before living to see the next day.

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It'd be interesting to see an in-game example of a mi'qote actively trying to seduce her father. For example, we know of a few specific female (and male) characters from the U' tribe in the Forgotten Sands. They don't say if U'Odh Nunh is their father, because we don't see their last names for the most part. They are U'goromuli, U'jughal, U'kahmuli, U'kahzuna, U'khuba Tia, U'konelua, U'linbho the Sand Devil, U'lolamo, U'mollpa, U'napa, U'ndomii, U'rahtalo, U'ralka, U'towali and U'tykha Tia. Seeing as U'Odh has been around for a bit, though, I'm pretty sure most of them would have "Odh" as their last name. I'll have to go take a look in-game and see if any of the female show sign of trying to please/seduce the old man (or maybe some more rebelious ones pinning for either sons)

That said, notice how little importance one's mother is to the Sun'qotes -- they don't take their name. I don't even think the concept of "grandmother" really exists to them because of that. They know who their father is, that's important to them. But otherwise, the "family tree" would be crazy lopsided. Their fathers have only one mother, and can be the father of multiple generations of sisters.

Also worth noting, males don't really keep their father's name. What they keep from them is (usually) the tribe. Unless they become Nuhns of a new tribe, they're pretty much going to inherit the Nuhn title and the entire tribe simply by growing up, helping the tribe prosper (after all, they will inherit it, so it's in their best interest to help out while they're Tia).

And here it is, the image I mentioned yesterday. (Hopefully you can direct link to IMGUR from here?)

http://i.imgur.com/FHGKOR7.png

Cloe, in her new Monk outfit, at one of my favourite location in the game.

I tried cloning the mad colouring scheme from No Game No Life, which I have watched in the last few months and really enjoyed.

/clap my worst lot ever 0 1 2
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Originally Posted by Docent

That said, notice how little importance one's mother is to the Sun'qotes.

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I would disagree with this, as evidenced by Loonh (from the Amal'jaa Beast tribe quests) and her mother. There is obviously a special connection she shared with her mother, and it makes sense - whilst they may not take any names, it is most likely that a Miqo'te will depend on their mother to be raised, to learn to hunt, to learn the ways of the clan. The tia in the U tribe are seen helping some women find their roles, yes, but they seem to have basic skills passed down by their sisters and probably their mothers in their early years.

Seeing at they are all about the hunt, I would say that their mothers play quite an important role!

Although the U is not a good example of this, lore wise, the nunh is usually not the clan leader (as stated by Ferne in the lore forums in the Miqo'te naming conventions). Meaning women would have a very important role in the leadership side of the clan, too!

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Nunh status does not equate to leadership within a tribe, and in fact, very few nunh ever become leaders.

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Also, there is possibly other sections of the U tribe around the globe - not just the faction we see in Southern Thanalan. So, it could be very possible for tribe members to migrate from one group to another.

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This is exactly what I had in mind too :0
I thought of a small group of women with their kids from the T tribe who join the group of Coris' father, because they couldn't/didn't want to stay with their old group. Now I think it would be nice to know what T'eijahn would do then. Could he reject them? Or let them stay? But then I thought of the new kids being jerks and making nasty comments about the greyish hair being a Moonkeeper trait (I guess?). Then again I should try to find out or more likely re-read how the relationship between Sun- and Moonkeepers looks like -> all fine or not so nice.

Doublepost because character limit and smartphone x,x

Sidenote: I thought of the T group in particular being Limsa-based (Central La Noscea maybe) and T'eijahn being a member of the Maelstrom or yellow coats. At least I always pictured him as a Marauder.

Again thank you all, especially Docent, for your thoughts and feedback! :3

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/clap my worst lot ever 0 1 2
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Your misfortune pleases me.. sadly T_T. I thought I had horrible RNG. Failed 8 out of 10 desynths ... at 80%. 0_0. I thought the 80% was for success... not failure T_T

Capped philo and bought the ironworks body last night. I so used to the wider, longer silluette of the auoral tabard, the shorter, sleeker coat Los strange. Plus the texture reminds me of like diving wetsuits or something

I got the one for Mages last Sunday and I like it so far. The shiny orbs and the style are way more to my liking than the old set. Free tail ftw!
Can't wait to get my hands on the other parts 'cause I really want to see the full set. Wish this would be possible with the "Try on" feature :/

I also have the BRD hat. Definitely displayhead off lol. I already have one pair of cat eyes

T9 downed before 2.41 hits :D
http://img2.finalfantasyxiv.com/acci...b9410deddc.jpg

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T9 downed before 2.41 hits :D

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Big congratulations!

In my little corner of the world, my FC is still learning the ways of T7.

Got my Novus like 2 days ago. The lights grind is very daunting. :<

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Big congratulations!

In my little corner of the world, my FC is still learning the ways of T7.

Got my Novus like 2 days ago. The lights grind is very daunting. :<

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Ty, and I agree with you 200% on nexus light farming. The reward is worth it though.

Denmo really needs to get this mask, so he can have the epic beard
http://i.imgur.com/W55j1NI.jpg

11 hours and ~43min until my exam D:
Wish me luck!
I'm most likely going to wear my "I beat Titan"-Shirt and later that day I'll reactivate my Account.
At the moment I am really in the mood to play and work on being a better healer... Ah well, first that exam x_x

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11 hours and ~43min until my exam D:
Wish me luck!
I'm most likely going to wear my "I beat Titan"-Shirt and later that day I'll reactivate my Account.
At the moment I am really in the mood to play and work on being a better healer... Ah well, first that exam x_x

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All the best on that exam and welcome back in advance!

First of all:

Hello SGD Thread!!!!

I don't believe I have posted in here before. I saw this thread, I've read parts of it before, I'm definitely a lodestoner. I blog infrequently, but am always checking the blogs of other English Speaking folks on my Server, and I'd love to get into more discussions on here.

I'll be going back into T10 tonight. Hopefully tonight will be our time for a clear!!!

I'm all things tank: PLD & WAR @ 50 and fully geared, BSM & ARM are my Primary crafts, but I have all crafts @ 50. Last night I finished my Wootz Plate Armor for my tank. (Even though I have HA + Noct already.) (Also, I only finifhsed the Armorer part, still need to work on my LTW and make my pants.)

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Last night I finished my Wootz Plate Armor for my tank.

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Props for crafting and wearing the rather ridiculously hard to obtain crafted i110 for your favourite job. I went the same way, and it was a crazy ride.

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After nearly burning myself out on Alex farming and a few days of lights farming for my Novus, I've been spending the last two days relaxing and catching Silver Sovereigns for my Forager's fishing rod. I'm up to 17 HQ fish now -- almost there.

Next stop? Fat Cat Minion.

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Props for crafting and wearing the rather ridiculously hard to obtain crafted i110 for your favourite job

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Thanks! The reaction i get from my friends outside my FC also makes it worthwhile.

"Hey man"
"Sup?"
"Woaaaaahh sweet gear! Is that the new FCoB Gear?"
"Nope, examine me :D"
"OMG o_0 That gear is 1mil+/piece! And you crafted it yourself!!!! So Jelly!!"

I'm a little sad I didn't finish crafting it when it was 10 mil+/piece, but my crafting should be up to spec by the time 3.0 comes out, so I should be on the bandwagon at that time.

http://i.imgur.com/xeP02Av.jpg
with vergil

Are those book real? or are they the fake ones with a bottle of booze inside?

Or are they books where you have switched the covers so the outside looks like you are working, but you are really reading smutty fan fiction about Cid and Minfillia getting in on. 50 Shades of Garlond amirite?

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Are those book real? or are they the fake ones with a bottle of booze inside?

Or are they books where you have switched the covers so the outside looks like you are working, but you are really reading smutty fan fiction about Cid and Minfillia getting in on. 50 Shades of Garlond amirite?

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hmm at least not mine...

mine is real affair details between Eynzahr Slafyrsyn and Merlwyb Bloefhiswyn.../blush written by Prof. Moose...

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Are those book real? or are they the fake ones with a bottle of booze inside?

Or are they books where you have switched the covers so the outside looks like you are working, but you are really reading smutty fan fiction about Cid and Minfillia getting in on. 50 Shades of Garlond amirite?

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Once ...I opened my High Allagan Tome and Rubi's fanfic was in it... So I hid it under the cushions in Thal's couch.

Rogue Muse, I love your sig, BTW. :D

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Rogue Muse, I love your sig, BTW. :D

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The concept in her sig is pretty solid ... but its not drawn very well...

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The concept in her sig is pretty solid ... but its not drawn very well...

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I've been told by friends and FC people that I need to swap my human sig for a cat one :3

<--hands out festive orange balls of pumpkin-scented yarn :3

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Once ...I opened my High Allagan Tome and Rubi's fanfic was in it... So I hid it under the cushions in Thal's couch.

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Where do you think I do my best writing? *waves from under Thal's couch*

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I've been told by friends and FC people that I need to swap my human sig for a cat one :3

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Let me see if I can come up with something! Chibi art learning mode, go

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Let me see if I can come up with something! Chibi art learning mode, go

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If you need some guinea pig i can sign in. XD

I believe that the live letter start time is now 30min earlier than previously advertised. I might get to start watching the first half hour :D

Since I play huge amount of the ST, I got lots bad lot SS:
http://i.imgur.com/IJbYuTP.png
supposed to be 0 0 1, but ppl lot it too fast XD

http://i.imgur.com/MANg6ot.png
bond, james bond! I actually got exactly 0 0 7 twice...

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:o That's the code to my luggage!

Does anyone have a link for live translation for the Live Letter today?

Same guy as last time is streaming his document -> http://multitwitch.tv/cygneakrou/finalfantasyxiv