Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent. 2.0

I like going blind into content, but I also pay attention to patterns and instead of watching an obvious transition attack charging and think "Ooo what a pretty light show" I think "Oh dear, this is gonna hurt, I'd better do something about it".

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Originally Posted by Grimforth

Honestly the one thing that most players in this game will tell people who are new to a raid in general is to go in completely blind, but then when they start messing up mechanics then of course they start ruining the experience for everyone else. Funny thing is the exact opposite in wow and most players there will tell you to watch a video first and learn what to do and then raid.

Basically what I'm getting from this is that you had three fresh tanks who didn't know what they were doing and just made your job a lot more harder.

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Fun fact: there was no new person message, and no cutsceners. All three tanks had a couple pieces of gear from the current alliance raid. Then again the WAR tank I had in my party was collecting vuln stacks throughout each fight and just flat-out ignoring most mechanics unless it was a tankbuster. I'm not sure about the other tanks, but I'm fairly certain B and C's tank were eating glue.

Wanna know how many vuln stacks I can actually heal through in that raid before the tank just flat-out keels over? 5. The 6th one, if it's not a tankbuster, will 99% chance kill you. If it's a tankbuster, you're just completely cooked.

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Originally Posted by Grimforth

Basically what I'm getting from this is that you had three fresh tanks who didn't know what they were doing and just made your job a lot more harder.

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You cannot be a "fresh" tank at lvl 100. There are no excuses for not hitting party wide mitigations during party wide damage at endgame; it's the basics and should have been mastered way before hitting endgame.

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Originally Posted by Moqi

You cannot be a "fresh" tank at lvl 100. There are no excuses for not hitting party wide mitigations during party wide damage at endgame; it's the basics and should have been mastered way before hitting endgame.

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You would be surprised on how many level 100 tanks don't use mitigations. Both in Dungeons and raids.

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Originally Posted by Grimforth

You would be surprised on how many level 100 tanks don't use mitigations. Both in Dungeons and raids.

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Don't worry, I've met plenty in Ults that have no clue how to properly mitigate either.

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

So I wanna point something out:

Raidwides are attacks that attack everyone in the raid, unless they're locked out of the boss room. Raidwides after certain percentages/instances of attack sequences will do an absolute boatload of damage that can and will most likely kill people outright if not mitigated.

So the three tanks I had in the Sandy Oreo raid earlier today, please, for the love of DUCKING LLYMLAEN, USE YOUR DUCKING PARTY-WIDE MITIGATION ON THE THIRD BOSS. It's the reason why we nearly wiped after the archduke finished his transition raidwide attack and had an absolute struggle-bus to get people back up and healed with repeated deaths from not having enough people for certain mechanics and unfortunate murder by overlap.

Yes, if any of you were wondering, I bore witness to almost 20 health bars magically disappear after the archduke finished his raidwide. Yes, my party managed to get off two healer lb3, one done by me and one done by my co-healer. Yes, the other parties hit their healer lb3s. Yes, you bet it was an absolute shitshow. Yes, at most during certain points we had 7 people up in total until the healer lb3s went off.

I need a drink.

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Laughs in Macrocosmos. While I do agree people should mitigate, that is also easy to heal/mitigate if you are half decent.

Had a smooth 7.3 dungeon expert run but I died twice to the jailer boss because of the big chained balls they drop. This was my second time running it so I'm still not used to how fast they drop and how big the aoes are. So completely my fault if I died. Then the mentor spoke up:

https://i.imgur.com/eYezW4F.png

Healer did a fine job to me

EDIT: forgot to censor a name

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Originally Posted by Kohashi

Laughs in Macrocosmos. While I do agree people should mitigate, that is also easy to heal/mitigate if you are half decent.

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Unfortunately you can't heal overkill damage/damage that just kills you that isn't capped with Macrocosmos.

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

Unfortunately you can't heal overkill damage/damage that just kills you that isn't capped with Macrocosmos.

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I was talking about the multi-hit he does after he raises his platform, Shockwave, followed by Transcendent Union.

Activate Temperance and put Bell down and afk.. easy peasy.

I do Nocturnal sect + CU + sun sign as prep and Macro as he starts casting. Or I do horoscope + Macro, activate horoscope midway to heal some dmg, and then Micro. The party is full HP like nothing happened.

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Originally Posted by Kohashi

I was talking about the multi-hit he does after he raises his platform, Shockwave, followed by Transcendent Union.

Activate Temperance and put Bell down and afk.. easy peasy.

I do Nocturnal sect + CU + sun sign as prep and Macro as he starts casting. Or I do horoscope + Macro, activate horoscope midway to heal some dmg, and then Micro. The party is full HP like nothing happened.

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Admittedly it's been a while since I last touched on AST. I've been mostly doing things as WHM and been getting people who either actually work with me or just...are off to the side dying often. Most of the alliance had died to the very last hit he does in his combo despite what I had available. Granted I did put faith in my cohealer to cover some of the raidwide damage and that fell flat since I had used mine earlier in the fight.

I guess I'll try bringing in AST next time I get into Sandy instead of WHM. Then again knowing my luck I'll get yet another cohealer who runs around like a headless chicken and forces me to use up needed resources early like I had yesterday.

Still though, tanks, please use your mits. It saves lives and it ain't hard.

Cosmonaut's transition raidwide is multihit, but it isn't spread out evenly, it feels like 50% of the damage from the sequential hits, and then the remaining 50% from the last hit, if you are not completely topped off and there is no mits, then that can absolutely get you, I been doing Sand Oreo on MNK, mostly so I can farm out the Prishe cosplay, and I always use my Riddle of Earth+Earth's Reply during that part to assist the Healers in any way I can, but still.

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Originally Posted by AxHell

This was my second time running it so I'm still not used to how fast they drop and how big the aoes are.

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For what is worth, if you position yourself exactly in the middle of the flails at max melee range(or further if you aren't feeling confident but max melee is enough, or if you are ranged) is exactly what you need for that part, for Sequential Torture, it's always blades>flails>blades>in/out, you have time to move between each, so you don't have to move out of the way of the second blades immediately, take the flails in account before that.

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Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi

Cosmonaut's transition raidwide is multihit, but it isn't spread out evenly, it feels like 50% of the damage from the sequential hits, and then the remaining 50% from the last hit,

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This..

Indeed. His raidwide feels a lot like Howling's Blade (M8N/S) Ravenous Saber, which is indeed a 5-hit raidwide where he does 4 in rapid succession, followed by a split-second pause before the last hit, which is a major hit.

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Originally Posted by Cincierta

Admittedly it's been a while since I last touched on AST. I've been mostly doing things as WHM and been getting people who either actually work with me or just...are off to the side dying often. Most of the alliance had died to the very last hit he does in his combo despite what I had available. Granted I did put faith in my cohealer to cover some of the raidwide damage and that fell flat since I had used mine earlier in the fight.

I guess I'll try bringing in AST next time I get into Sandy instead of WHM. Then again knowing my luck I'll get yet another cohealer who runs around like a headless chicken and forces me to use up needed resources early like I had yesterday.

Still though, tanks, please use your mits. It saves lives and it ain't hard.

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If people fall critically low, it means healing was not enough. You should pay attention to the hit's rhythm. It's 4 rapid followed by a slight pause, then the finishing move.
As for mits is not just tanks that can mitigate. Every single role has a mit. Addle, faint, reprisal, shield samaba,... etc

While people should absolutely mitigate, the vast majority are allergic to it and thus never expect people to actually do it. So just extra prepare for those instances.

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Originally Posted by Grimforth

I honestly agree. While I wouldn't leave like the tank did, I absolutely hate it when healers use rescue on you as a way of telling you to pull faster while not even checking your gear first.

Some people pull slower because they know that they're gear most likely couldn't handle it.

No healer should be using rescue on tanks just to get them to pull faster.

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As a healer, I go at my tank's pace. If that's wall to wall or 3 mobs, I don't care. I will however, rescue DPS who run off to narnia. I've been healing in this game for nearly 7 years, and I know what I'm capable of healing vs what I'm not capable of healing too. If we're all geared up, sure pull the entirety of Stone Vigil as long as you use your mitigation. However, if my tank isn't geared, and I'm not geared, it's going to be a losing battle. No matter how much EOS tries to help.

Today I ran into a no mit Tank other than Raw Intuition, which was a nice reprieve but far from enough, undergeared, in Dohn Mheg, wtw every time, spending all my cooldowns and and then spamming Adlo(Physick would be pointless, the shield was breaking before the next cast finished) was not enough to consistently keep them alive, we wiped twice, after the second wipe they hit me with a "...okay" and started pulling slower, but the attitude still ticked me off, like it was my fault for the wipes, learn to use the Job properly, nitwit...

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Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi

Today I ran into a no mit Tank other than Raw Intuition, which was a nice reprieve but far from enough, undergeared, in Dohn Mheg, wtw every time, spending all my cooldowns and and then spamming Adlo(Physick would be pointless, the shield was breaking before the next cast finished) was not enough to consistently keep them alive, we wiped twice, after the second wipe they hit me with a "...okay" and started pulling slower, but the attitude still ticked me off, like it was my fault for the wipes, learn to use the Job properly, nitwit...

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Idk why but this reminds me of a time when we found out our tank did not do any of his drk quests we were at the second boss and he was asking the healer for more healing while not using TBN and he was in the level 70 gear at end of xpack dungeon xD
after the run the healer noticed he did not use any mits whatsoever very funny to me not so funny for the healer that was trying to tell him to use mitts to survive.

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Originally Posted by VeyaAkemi

Today I ran into a no mit Tank other than Raw Intuition, which was a nice reprieve but far from enough, undergeared, in Dohn Mheg, wtw every time, spending all my cooldowns and and then spamming Adlo(Physick would be pointless, the shield was breaking before the next cast finished) was not enough to consistently keep them alive, we wiped twice, after the second wipe they hit me with a "...okay" and started pulling slower, but the attitude still ticked me off, like it was my fault for the wipes, learn to use the Job properly, nitwit...

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That's the thing with some tanks is that if they die more than once they'll start to think that you're a bad healer and start pulling more slowly and one pack at a time for your sake, even though they're at fault for not using mits. And if you tell them to pull more, they'll just ignore you.

https://i.ibb.co/ynmsyw4f/Kirin-Raid-Wipe.png

Had a run of second walk we were clearing it super fast, no issues at all except my party's healers were kinda novice small stuff so it's smooth sailing All the way til we get to the end of the raid; Alliance A pulls the boss before the rest of us get there. Run in less than half the party is there tank and healers in CS gets tank buster dies; alliance A and few peps stay in to fight time passes few peps come out and someone says "you won't believe it but they are still in there" so a lil more time passes all alliance B and C are out + 1 player from A we ask A to restart the fight since were not all there.

Lalafell sage says they're not resetting says they will report us all for respawning.. it gets said pld in A pulled boss PLD is quiet meanwhile the fun sized Sage keeps talking isht to the rest of us takes them a bit over a half hour to kill the final boss alliance A shuts up the rest of us shut up open the boxes...

My friend laughing says F em; holds the music rolls and the minion up til last 2 seconds. I leave out and report the SGE and the PLD but can still respect them for actually doing it.... at 3 times the effort, what we could have done as a 24 man in 10 - 15 mins... well done you time wasting idiots. xD

Ran second walk with a friend last night, we were joking how it was going to be painful. It was painful for me more then her as the other healer was one of those!!! Dps 99% of the time and barely heal even when people are on the edge of death. So I stopped my dpsing and stuck too keeping the party alive as best as I could. Had everyone in party down at one point except said healer and a tank, me and friend both had the same thought. Is the other heaer going to use LB3 or just continue dpsing the boss leaving us dead, they actually hit LB3 the only real healing they did the whole raid.

PT clear group. One new but seemingly earnest, other two seemed to know what they were doing (one was a sprout Necromancer from Aether) but are saying next to nothing.

Then on the floor 90 boss, after asking if the new guy wanted a dorito, the Necromancer tank promptly puts the marker on the newbie, charges in with no discussion, and all three of these guys get slaughtered by every mechanic. So my SGE ass that cleared this boss once carried them for 5 minutes. 90+ was 50 minutes of much of the same, insta-wiped 99, practice trial unlocked.

This content attracts some weird characters (seriously; two of them were lalafells). And worst of all, the tank doesn't have the excuse of being from Crystal. If you haven't cleared a boss, speak up.

That moment you're a RDM in a matched file for Pilgrim's Traverse and are on the 90+ floors.

That moment when the queue pops and the rest of the party is a PCT, MCH, and BLM.

That moment you tell them you're new to this floorset.

That moment when you end up becoming the only raiser to constantly scrape the others off the floor.

That moment on floor 96 when you die to an aoe near the exit from the demon mob.

That moment when the rest of the party heads for the exit and stands there blankly wondering why they can't progress.

That moment when you ask one of them if they have a Phoenix Down after a few minutes of them standing at the exit.

That moment when they realize I'm dead and they can't progress without the whole party.

That moment you finally get to the floor 99 boss and you tell them after getting out of the cutscene that you've not done the boss before, and end up getting a very sparse explanation of the light and dark mech.

That moment when you fail the second Bounds of Sin and get knocked off the platform and die.

That moment when you respawn dead on the floor and watch the rest of the party just give up, eat fireballs and wipe.

*big hamster sigh*

So... I just bore witness to ifrit hard nails timing out. I wasn't watching two dps but I did watch the red mage. After the wipe he decided to say:

"sorry I was tabbed out for a moment"

Thanks for not playing during a (what should always be) an easy dps check. Honestly they were dying so slowly I felt like I was the only one killing them at first.

So calling myself out here.

I'm apparently dumb enough to end a solo file by doing the following:

-Get to floor 72. Sees a treasure room that I need to progress pass.
-Sees they have Poisonfruit incense. Pops a fortune, sight, and Poisonfruit to clear the floor and get phat loot.
-Completely forgets the 4 Huldu that were patiently sitting there having their afternoon tea before being unceremoniously murdered.
-Walks into room as they're casting Self-Destruct.
-Eats over a million damage.
-Duty Failed.
-Realizes their own stupidity.

Don't get blinded by loot kids.

tbf your job is to do dmg. not to rezz when healers have too little to do anyway.

I’m only grateful to raising RDMs if they can aptly notice when I’m swiftraising & when I’m not. Do I hate them? Naaahh. But if they start ignoring my swiftraise then I will also stop raising at all until they run out of mana. Overwriting raise is a loss. Glaroilficosis is not :P Healer adjust meme is real rofl.

At the very least, please don’t interrupt your melee combo to raise outside the most dire situations lol.

So this time I'm the culprit.

I avoid PvP in tab-target games like the plague. But now I'm on a new character, and want to make the most out of the current Moogle Treasure Event.
Mogpendium this week is either winning a Triple Triad game against the fisher guy (unlikely, I only have the 5 starter cards), or partaking in a casual match of Crystalline Conflict. PvP. Ooof.

Inhale. Exhale. You can do this.

Off to the Wolve's Den I go. First thing I notice is that my action bars are empty. Ok, PvP seems to be like another job, so I pull up my Actions & Traits window and refill my bars. Talk to the guy at the counter, and there it is in the Duty Finder: Crystalline Conflict. Inhale. Exhale. Enlist. Duty starts, everybody says "Hello", I also type "Hello" and... "You cannot use chat here." Hm what? Ok, whatever. Just follow the crowd. Lots of colorful stuff is happening, then I face my first opponent, and... none of my buttons are working. A quick return to the starting point is all I get from my first PvP encounter in FF14.

No idea what's wrong, so I ask my teammates "Sorry guys, have filled my bars, but nothing works". "You cannot use chat here". So why TF is that stupid chat textbox even there when I cannot use it? Ok, off to the internet. "FF14 crystalline conflict actions not working". Found some stuff on reddit where people are told to fill their action bars again. Which I did. Also some "Beginner guide for dummies" that starts with talking about strategies... while I cannot even get my buttons to work. Obviously I'm so dumb that even a guide for dummies cannot help me now /sigh/ Back to the game, I frantically search through the menus, but all I find regarding PvP is some Profile with statistics and the like.

Match is over now, we lost, and I even get a wellfare commendation. Inhale. Exhale. Back to the menus, now doing a more thoroughly search - and there they are, right in the PvP profile: PvP Actions - Job/Role/Quick Chat. I just didn't notice this part of the dialog when skimming over it.

Sorry @my team. I couldn't even apologize to you in time, since "You cannot use chat here". But I wasn't willfully leeching, I just gave the best I had - which was, in fact, nothing.

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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

I’m only grateful to raising RDMs if they can aptly notice when I’m swiftraising & when I’m not. Do I hate them? Naaahh. But if they start ignoring my swiftraise then I will also stop raising at all until they run out of mana. Overwriting raise is a loss. Glaroilficosis is not :P Healer adjust meme is real rofl.

At the very least, please don’t interrupt your melee combo to raise outside the most dire situations lol.

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Unfortunately when I play SMN/RDM I'm still in healer mode so my swift raise is often prepared in advance of death.

Pilgram's Traverse, slowly collecting my clears so I can get the Framer's Kit and the 4 accessories for the chandelier mount. It's been pretty smooth sailing, a few bumps which is to be expected but nothing threatening. I reach floor 91+ the final stretch, queue up for the last matched party for this run. It was a Tank, me on Viper and 2 WHM healers. I could already see the red flags with this group as we suffer some near wipes, accidentally pulling the wrong mobs, not prioritizing patrols before advancing, etc, but never the less we trek on and eventually we reach Floor 98.

What happened was such a demoralising incident that I haven't had the motivation to attempt PT again. We were crossing a room when one of the WHM decides to run off into a side room that had a silver chest inside that I had scouted a minute prior. The room was full of enemies so I had decided for the better to not attempt grabbing it for a potential incense and made my way back to the party. One of the healers decided to run off to this side room and came running back to us, with a Gorilla enemy in tow. The rest of us was on the opposite side of the room from the doorway, hugging the wall to avoid traps, the usual. The healer had parked the gorilla in the doorway when it did its arena wide cleave and because of the angle it was facing all I could do was watch as it immediately killed the three of us and then the healer died not even seconds later, causing us to wipe on Floor 98 of all places. All I could do was just ask "why"

Let this be a lesson. If you're going to run off to a side room, its on you to deal with anything you accidentally pull - ESPECIALLY on Floor 91 onwards. We can always pick your corpse up from the floor if you die, but please don't wipe the party because you thought it'd be a great idea to bring back one of the more dangerous enemies on the floorset.

Nidhogg trial on BLM. Smooth sailing except the add phase. Both aggro-able adds were tanked... initially. I pull aggro on the left one and nearly die, but was saved by a timely benediction. I comment it felt like had 0 tanks there for a second and the response from the MT?

"The middle one is untankable."

...Yeah that's totally the issue, the middle one who wanders around like a derp only doing light damage and damage down debuffs. The left add following me around half of the field and tankbustering me on a dps was not the issue.

I cry.

That moment in Frontlines when:

Someone with a clue: Don't die! We got this!

Me: *immediately dies due to lack of spatial/tactical awareness*

(instance ends)

Feels bad, man. :(

Really odd run of Yuweyawata Field Station a few days ago.

Queued with one of my closest friends as wanted the Fending chest piece from the dungeon. I went as Gunbreaker - a job I was (and I guess still am really) new to and friend went as Sage - a job they are extremely good at playing. The DPS were a Samurai and a Ninja.

It all started off okay, although the SAM was rather Lethargic and the Ninja, whilst keeping themselves busy, didn't really seem to be using their full rotation and both were keeping my friend busy as seemed to require rather a lot of healer attention. About half-way through the SAM writes "need a drink" and AFK'ed for a minute or two; didn't think too much of it at that point to be honest - just waited patiently. The Ninja did a "lol" when both me and my friend almost died to the second boss, but that was about all they had to say for themselves.

Anyway - we got as far as defeating the mobs right before the final boss of the map.... and then a vote-kick from the two DPS against my friend who, as I said, had been working their arse off healing those two! I naturally voted 'no' but my friend got kicked anyway. I asked them why on earth they did so but received no reply and they both quickly quit the instance instead, leaving me there alone. To be honest, was kinda surprised it wasn't ME they voted to kick as, being relatively new to Gunbreaker in particular and tanking in general, I probably wasn't putting on an impressive performance!
Decided to wait for replacements, who did come and were not complete weirdos like those two idiots before.

Was quick to blacklist those two morons when the instance ended. Other than the strong possibility that they were just dumbass trolls I really did feel for my friend, considering how hard they'd worked to heal those idiots who were as much use as a trap-door on a canoe!

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Originally Posted by ScrollaMalinowski

Pilgram's Traverse, slowly collecting my clears so I can get the Framer's Kit and the 4 accessories for the chandelier mount. It's been pretty smooth sailing, a few bumps which is to be expected but nothing threatening. I reach floor 91+ the final stretch, queue up for the last matched party for this run. It was a Tank, me on Viper and 2 WHM healers. I could already see the red flags with this group as we suffer some near wipes, accidentally pulling the wrong mobs, not prioritizing patrols before advancing, etc, but never the less we trek on and eventually we reach Floor 98.

What happened was such a demoralising incident that I haven't had the motivation to attempt PT again. We were crossing a room when one of the WHM decides to run off into a side room that had a silver chest inside that I had scouted a minute prior. The room was full of enemies so I had decided for the better to not attempt grabbing it for a potential incense and made my way back to the party. One of the healers decided to run off to this side room and came running back to us, with a Gorilla enemy in tow. The rest of us was on the opposite side of the room from the doorway, hugging the wall to avoid traps, the usual. The healer had parked the gorilla in the doorway when it did its arena wide cleave and because of the angle it was facing all I could do was watch as it immediately killed the three of us and then the healer died not even seconds later, causing us to wipe on Floor 98 of all places. All I could do was just ask "why"

Let this be a lesson. If you're going to run off to a side room, its on you to deal with anything you accidentally pull - ESPECIALLY on Floor 91 onwards. We can always pick your corpse up from the floor if you die, but please don't wipe the party because you thought it'd be a great idea to bring back one of the more dangerous enemies on the floorset.

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If it makes you feel better, I had something similar, but it was our tank that ran into a treasure room, hit the only Witching we had, and then hit a luring trap that had a Dahak in it. Needless to say he spun the Dahak away from the rest of the party where we got Tail Swiped almost immediately. Witching ran out, he panic holmganged into another hallway and died. Was on floor 96.

I had to step away for a bit because that was infuriating.

Then there was the run where I first got to the floor 99 boss as the only raiser in the party, I died from getting pushed off the platform from Bounds of Sin and respawn to watch my party just give up and eat fireballs.

OK, gotta pull this out of necro with one.

I'm PLD, and we have the regular setup for Porta Decumana...

Our two DPS are a BRD and one other I'll get to in a second. I am almost convinced at least one of them (probably the second) was a bot or a troll.

It took over eight minutes to do the first phase, the LBs were completely ignored by both DPS, and we somehow cleared it from 30 to 0 in about 45 seconds of the Ultima cast - a speed nothing which happened in the over 20 minutes which preceded it could indicate.

I'm not going to say it was the sole cause, but I have real questions about the second DPS.

1) It was a Thaumaturge -- not a Black Mage, no job stone. At level 50+.

2) It was routinely out of mana, and was casting Lucid Dreaming at every up time (no matter how much mana the THM had -- 0 or 90-100), and was largely ignoring how a BLM/THM gets mana back.

3) When I tried to explain it because I could see this was going FAR TOO LONG, no response. Crickets. I tried to tell the THM to chain a couple Blizzards back to back, but it seemed like his rotation, if you could call it such, was Blizzard II/Fire III/rinse/lather/repeat.

4) So when the Ultima phase started, I called on the BRD to LB -- nothing. Didn't even do the LB3 and I have no idea HOW we cleared it.

I'd report at least the THM if I had any further idea the guy was a troll, which I consider about a 49% chance -- 49% bot, 2%... I don't even want to get into that here.

Oy. Just... Freaking... Oy.

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Originally Posted by TwiceDamned

Didn't even do the LB3 and I have no idea HOW we cleared it.

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Oh it's simple, you get a MASSIVE damage buff during the Ultima cast, the LB3 is completely unimportant and isn't even faster than just beating him up, I had plenty of times nobody LB'd and we still cleared with plenty of time to spare, that segment is pure hype moments and aura.

That moment when you queue up as an AST for late night leveling roulette.
That moment when you get Qarn normal with a DRK, NIN and BRD.
That moment when you realize the DRK's hp is just barely above yours due to their food buff.
That moment when you have to spam heals on the DRK because they're melting faster than butter in a hot pan from a lack of mit and mass pulling.
That moment when the DRK and BRD both fail the first and second dooms on the first boss.
That moment when you look at the DRK and realize they're wearing lvl 15 pieces and a lvl 1 basic b*tch starter foot gear.
That moment when you ask the DRK if they have any better gear, and are met with 'lol no sorry' that carries a 'who cares?' energy.
That moment when you decide to cut your losses and tell the party you have to leave and exit the instance right as the DRK pulls the second boss.

Don't do roulettes late at night kids.