Mort and Synapse are still arguing that it would ruin the game. LOL. The game lacks content and would be lacking content (world content) for quite a while but this folks believe that leaving anima as is in the game would ruin the game. The game's current state is grind and grind more but these folks are concern that you will "finish" the game in 5 months even though there is nothing to finish and has been nothing to finish for the last 10 months.
Before claiming the abolition of Anima or the need for Anima reform at least wait for the implementation of alternative transportation before making such outlandish claims. Basing your argument that folks would "finish" the game faster because they can travel easily is baseless. Claiming that folks are missing out by teleporting is equally baseless (for there is nothing to really at the moment).
Now if teleportation is limited to the crystals and Anima is removed and there a viable alternative methods of traveling then I don't think folks would care too much BUT, all of this is baseless recommendations because the alternative methods have NOT been implemented as yet.
With airships and chocobos take away teleporting!
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07-10-2011, 04:07 AMgeniusprime
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07-10-2011, 04:07 AMCricaNope, use my anima to help out friends/linkshell mates/random players and do leves/behests.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
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07-10-2011, 04:08 AMgeniusprimeGetting bored in this game is standard. You are not pointing out an isolated situation. It is also the reason you are posting and not playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
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07-10-2011, 04:09 AMCricaThere is no reason to restrict players who have limited gametime from using 6 anima per day.Quote:
Originally Posted by geniusprime
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07-10-2011, 04:09 AMMorticousdoes anybody share their anima with you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crica
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07-10-2011, 04:10 AMgeniusprime
Something to think about. It would take 16+ days to accumulate 100 Anima.
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07-10-2011, 04:11 AMgeniusprimeInstead of snipping my post, reply to it in context. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Crica
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07-10-2011, 04:11 AMCricaOf course, 6 anima only goes to about 3 camps max.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
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07-10-2011, 04:12 AMCricaYour context is in tact in your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by geniusprime
I replied with my own opinion of your words. -
07-10-2011, 04:13 AMMorticousmy highest rank is also rank 43 gla, it took me a bit longer to get bored with what the game has to offer then crica.. who is a rank 11 LNC. I at least actually played the game before i quit and started posting. It seriously takes like 15 minutes MAX to get to rank 11.. so if hes already THAT BORED with the game why is he even bothering defending any aspect of this POS game at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by geniusprime
And as for your other post, yeah sure maybe the other transportation systems will all work with anima but why would i bother using a chocobo or an airship when i can just teleport across the map in 2 seconds? like I said, you may not be able to manage your anima, but i can and do and am rarely under 70 anima and still able to go wherever needed. -
07-10-2011, 04:14 AMCricaBecause you said in this whole thread you WANT to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
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07-10-2011, 04:16 AMSkelotonwhy is it that the voices of rationality get ignored?Quote:
Originally Posted by geniusprime
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07-10-2011, 04:17 AMgeniusprimeFor starters my Anima is rarely below 90, I guess I am cooler than you because of that and the only reason I saying that is because you keeping pointing out how awesome you are for having 70 anima. This also contradicts your point in that people who teleport a lot would.......wait for it........HAVE LESS ANIMA. Isn't that awesome? Now whats the problem again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
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07-10-2011, 04:20 AMMorticousgee why didnt I think of that? I think im going to log on right now so I can ignore the anima overflowing from my menu and just walk all over the entire world! BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IM POSTING. get a clue guys. its about the game, not me, its about all of us wanting it to be good and last, not be quick, short and shut down shortly after content is actually implemented. This team is so slow at putting in content that by the time they put in more content everyone will be finished with what they've already put out, much like the situation we are in now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crica
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07-10-2011, 04:20 AMKailok
Perhaps they should come up with a system that rewards players who decide to travel instead of taking the quick route with Anima. I don't usually like to bring up other games and their ideas, but in Guild Wars 2 they also have a fast-travel system. However, from what I've watched they also have a system that rewards you for taking the long route.
Things that could happen in the future:
You can still use your Anima to get where you're going
OR
You can take the long route, notice a platoon of Garlean soldiers camping near one of the Eorzean camps, and you are given the option to take up a quest that allows you to inform a VIP at the friendly camp so that they can make preparations for battle, or be on guard. The camp is indebted to you for the information, so you receive a reward (gil or SP, whichever).
What SE needs to do is to stop restricting and start rewarding on the other side of the fence. Same thing with Fatigue/Surplus and I believe I saw a post stating they plan on giving rested experience for when people are logged off for a certain amount of time. They are taking away what restricts us from being able to play how we want. -
07-10-2011, 04:22 AMCricaBut not all of us want it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
You just want all of us to want it...
And want to force us to do it with the limited game time we have to play...
45 mins of traveling and 15mins of playing for us!!
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07-10-2011, 04:23 AMMorticousThis is actually a suggestion i would accept if put in place. It would also make the world a little more alive, more random events should happen in game, everything right now is so predictable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kailok
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07-10-2011, 04:26 AMSynapseSadly the other side isnt open to suggestion, well the other side is just 3 people so far and i think even 1 try to find a middle ground and then got pulled back into the pit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
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07-10-2011, 04:26 AMMorticousI'm not sure where your traveling but I think your addiction to teleporting is hindering you from ranking up in game. who the hell takes 45 minutes to get somewhere? Were you joking or something? Maybe you just don't know how to play? I'm baffled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crica
@Synapse - Why work with each other as a community and meet a middle ground when we could all just be pricks and insist in our own way and refuse any kind of suggestions? These people are probably the same people who would also rather feed off my tax dollars then get a job... because getting a job and being responsible is inconvenient. -
07-10-2011, 04:27 AMgeniusprimeExactly. Independent of this whole anima removal nonsense, the key is to make alternatives more attractive whether its through quest, new areas, rare blacksmith etc instead of restricting or penalizing gamers. If there is a quest that would give huge EXP but you have to run/walk to the location, gamers would do it. If when exploring you may have rare encounters that gives you rare drops then gamers maybe driven to walk instead of teleporting etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kailok
The point is, it makes no sense to remove something for the soul purpose of making a timesink or making the game painful when there are better ways to achieve the same goal with less animosity from gamers. -
07-10-2011, 04:28 AMCricaRe-posting for third time:Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
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It takes exactly 15mins to run from Limsa Leve counter to Skull Valley.
When I have only an hour to play (as I do most times - if Im lucky its 2 hours), that is 15 mins TO the camp, 30mins to do the leves at that ONE camp, and 15mins to walk back to Limsa.
No going to another camp, no helping out a Linkshell mate, no crafting any of the mats I collected, my play time is done.
Because I spent HALF (more if you count running around for battle/gathering leves) of it traveling
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07-10-2011, 04:29 AMgeniusprime
Come on. Unless I missed a post from you, you did not try to take the middle ground.
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07-10-2011, 04:30 AMKailok
With Chocobo and airship it shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to get where you want to go. I can probably run to Gridania from Ul'Dah on foot within 20 minutes. But that's neither here nor there.
Also, for everyone here, insulting people in the counter argument isn't going to change their minds. It will make them stick harder to their opinion regardless of whether or not it's right, and think less of your opinion simply because you insulted them. In essence, if you want to try and change someone's mind, come up with a well thought-out response and don't be a dick. -
07-10-2011, 04:32 AMSkelotonI want a Thalanian (however you spell it) Zolom, Id so run/walk to fight that....or teleport to the closest camp then run/walk to it /sarcasm or just random enemy encounters to pop up along the roads to various places, just to shake it upQuote:
Originally Posted by Kailok
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07-10-2011, 04:33 AMSynapseLowering the maximum Anima is finding middle ground, completely eliminating the use of Anima is not giving a shyt.Quote:
Originally Posted by geniusprime
i suggested these many times in my post, this what happens when posters go "Oh shit new post, >Jump last Page<, /complain" -
07-10-2011, 04:34 AMMorticousI already suggested multiple times to leave the current Anima system the way it is and just restrict it in new areas, you must have missed it when i said it... like 8 times. I've posted more then 1 idea. I've even posted an idea for more anima if its quested. You where so blind in spitting on every last post with my name on it you clearly over read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by geniusprime
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07-10-2011, 04:34 AMAnonymoose
This is ridiculous.
(1) This isn't Vana'diel - the lore is different and the rules are different. The substance of aether covers the world and crystallizes at its strongest points. Sentient inhabitants of Eorzea can tap into that grid and ride it to other places, but only so often before their bodies can't take anymore. Deal with it.
(2) Running for 20+ minutes at a time is an archaic time sink. Many modern MMOs allow for increased travel speed over their predecessors because games can be updated and added to more rapidly now that there are broadband connections and DLC - every single aspect of the game doesn't need to be some kind of sink anymore - sometimes we can just... enjoy it? Twelve forbid!
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07-10-2011, 04:36 AMCricaI agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
Glad SE put in Anima so I don't have to spend HALF my normal gametime to get to and from a camp just traveling and can use that 30mins instead to hunt an NM or do a behest with buddies or craft with items I got from leves! -
07-10-2011, 04:38 AMMorticousI don't think it should be SEs job to bandaid your poor time management skills. I think if you managed your time wisely you could easily make more of your 2 hours even if SE gave us another 300 anima and aethryts every 5 steps of the entire map.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crica
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07-10-2011, 04:40 AMMorticousI think its off to the side of the boat from Limsa to thanalamadingdongQuote:
Originally Posted by Skeloton
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07-10-2011, 04:40 AMCricaIt's MY poor time management skills that it takes 30mins to run to Skull Valley from Limsa and back again??!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
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07-10-2011, 04:41 AMSynapse20mins+, where the hell is that, even uldah to camp tranquil doesnt take 20 mins... do people even play this game anymore? like i said before from one end of Thanalan to the the rend barely takes 15 mins. I think people are misleaded by the exaggerated map in this game, have any of you seen the speed of your cursor on the map move when u run?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anonymoose
If you need anima to travel to Horizon, Drybone, Bluefog from uldah, where all within 7-10 mins,... sry it seems you used anima way too much and let ur imagination run wild. -
07-10-2011, 04:43 AMMorticousexactly, why are you running to a camp to do one leve and then running back to town? couldnt you have planned that trip a little better? Thats like going the hardware store then home then back to the grocery store which is right next door to the hardware store then back home then to somewhere else in town then back home instead of planning your trip to do all three before going back home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crica
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07-10-2011, 04:43 AMSkelotonummm...sorry but thats gross exaggeration, it takes me 10mins from Leve counter to skull valley. You must follow the path like a train follows its tracks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crica
Counter to Bloodshore is more like 15mins for me, ul'dah to drybone/horizon 7-10mins, Grid is probably the worst 10-15mins to either emerald or tranquil -
07-10-2011, 04:44 AMDeadRiser
I'm ALL for the removal of it. And for the casuals, I'll settle on having to be by an aetheryte to teleport
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07-10-2011, 04:45 AMCricaLeveS with an S...Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
30mins to do LeveS...
If I have no anima to use, I would run back to town so I could get new leveS the next ime I play...
The scenario was in YOUR world of not allowing me to use anima... -
07-10-2011, 04:46 AMCricaTakes me 15mins.Quote:
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07-10-2011, 04:46 AMSymon17This comment proves that gameplay and content should really have priority over changing how people travel. You are an advocate for limiting teleportation, yet you say here that If there were events and rewards for people who walk that teleporters miss out on, teleporting wouldn't be as much of an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
I can't speak for the others in favor of anima, but this is the base of my argument. I'm not against the concept of traveling, I'm against long boring travel in this empty world. The sad truth is that having anima hasn't and won't kill this game, the game itself is responsible for that. People don't play games that aren't fun, simple as that.
Also in response to this, it's important to remember that this small argument in this thread is not an accurate representation of the games population. Just because there are only three people on this side here does not reflect how many people who play and their opinions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synapse
Also keep in mind that these forums tend to attract the more hardcore/"I enjoy when games punish me" type of player, from my experience. The more laidback gamers might not see this, but that doesn't mean they aren't out there playing. -
07-10-2011, 04:49 AMMorticousI'm sick of talking to you, In MY world anima isn't gone, its just better implemented. your like a broken record that nobody wanted to hear even when it wasn't broken. I think you've been downleveling your listening skills this entire conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crica
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07-10-2011, 04:51 AMCricaSo, 6 anima a day is horribly implemented?Quote:
Originally Posted by Morticous
Because when someone other then you uses 6 anima a day, somehow, someway, your gaming goes to hell?