Housing Suggestions

Ok yes i understand this, one housing area with more wards than others would be unbalanced & i agree, a house in goblet or a house in shiro is the same indeed still better than not owning one, but again some ppl prefer to be houseless over goblet lol, i personally dont mind goblet but for personal reasons i wont go there :p In a different situation i would.

P.s: Some ppl relocated from a medium to a small in shirogane, so obviously for them its not the same value! lol they valued more a small over a medium :p

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Since you apparently are so well versed in "technical babble," riddle me why every other MMO presently on the market, many with a comparable playerbase have all adopted instance houses and acknowledged its superior ease?

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Cause almost all of those are F2P MMOs and using instanced housing allows them to push microtransactions like you wouldn't believe.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Housing like FFXIV hasn't been relevant for almost a decade now... coincidentally what game is still using code from a decade ago?

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The same can be said about subscription based MMOs.

FFXIV does things differently, so why would we want to be like the micro transaction infested cesspool that is F2P MMOs?

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

Cause almost all of those are F2P MMOs and using instanced housing allows them to push microtransactions like you wouldn't believe

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Here's the thing though. SE makes a killing from subs AND mogstation. Added to all the paraphernalia related to this game. So it has plenty of cash flowing from it.

They don't need to push any more items than the cosmetics they already do.

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Originally Posted by Mahrze

With windows 32-bit limitations, you can explain it with quantum computing and those 32-bit limitations and spaghetti code will make your explanation moot.

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I hate to break it to you, but server code is all 64 bit, and quantum computers generally aren't widely used outside of research areas.

Please stop trying to make stuff up to make yourself sound smarter.

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Originally Posted by Mahrze

trying to take houses form people who already have multiple ones without a good outcome is not a solution.

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At worst, it's a 50/50 split, at best, you're sacrificing one customer to make 16 happy. There is no numerical argument where the multiple house owners come out ahead, just a selfish emotional one that should be disregarded.

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

At worst, it's a 50/50 split, at best, you're sacrificing one customer to make 16 happy. There is no numerical argument where the multiple house owners come out ahead, just a selfish emotional one that should be disregarded.

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While i dont like the extreme turn your comment is taking... If that really is se excuse & problem upon not giving everyone else the opportunity to get an universal chance at a large/medium/small(all 3 of them) house, then i agree no one should be grandfathered more than one home, & no i am not wishing for that, but again if that really is the issue & if that would really solve that (so we can all have either a small,a medium or a large depending on our gil pool) then i agree

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

I hate to break it to you, but server code is all 64 bit, and quantum computers generally aren't widely used outside of research areas.

Please stop trying to make stuff up to make yourself sound smarter.

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Why do you always fall into A straw-man fallacy? Your tech-savvy explanations mean nothing when they (SE) continue to give responses like old hardware or code limitations. Accept that not only are you not properly acquainted with how these servers are actually run, but that at most your argument against instances is guesswork at best.

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Originally Posted by Almagnus1

At worst, it's a 50/50 split, at best, you're sacrificing one customer to make 16 happy. There is no numerical argument where the multiple house owners come out ahead, just a selfish emotional one that should be disregarded.

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Citation needed

dude there's like two successful subscription-based MMOs on the market anymore, and one is this one and the other doesn't have housing, why would you even use that as a reason against it?

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and have every right to express your suggestions, but at the end of the day, SE is going to do what they what they want. The choice each person has to make is whether they will accept the change and continue paying, or decide the changes are not what they like and will walk away. I did this during HW when they completely changed Bard, and came back when they made changes I found acceptable.

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Originally Posted by Mahrze

Why do you always fall into A straw-man fallacy?

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Maybe I was giving you too much intellectual credit? I shall correct that mistake.

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Originally Posted by Mahrze

Citation needed

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One person owns two personal homes. One gets force released, another person doesn't have a home, gets one. One person happy, one person sad, a 50/50 split.

One person has 7 alts and all 8 characters own a personal house, and all are in one person FCs, thus one person owns 16 houses. They get reduced down to a personal house and an FC house, losing 14 houses, thus 14 happy. They get mad and leave the game, thus, another 2 people happy. Thus, one person sacrificed, 16 happy.

That's like common sense 101 stuff >.>

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Originally Posted by Elamys

dude there's like two successful subscription-based MMOs on the market anymore, and one is this one and the other doesn't have housing, why would you even use that as a reason against it?

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Which proves the point that what FFXIV does shouldn't follow what the F2P MMO does because FFXIV is operating on a completely different monetization model, coupled with a general lack of store prompts that infest most of the F2P MMOs out there... so something (like their housing model) may not be as relevant because F2P MMOs can get away with doing server inefficient stuff (like instanced housing) because the F2P MMOs don't have the population that FFXIV does.

Housing is also one of the reasons why WoW grossly simplified the concept and implemented it as the garrison in WoD.

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Originally Posted by Menriq

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, and have every right to express your suggestions, but at the end of the day, SE is going to do what they what they want. The choice each person has to make is whether they will accept the change and continue paying, or decide the changes are not what they like and will walk away. I did this during HW when they completely changed Bard, and came back when they made changes I found acceptable.

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I gave you a like because what you said is something i find acceptable, highlight "imo" is that you did walk away because of a bad change, but again I do not think that it is even comparable to the system that carried on for years with housing, leaving everyone in the dust, if we all did what you did for brd with housing, then there would be far more ppl unsubscribing, many variables but yes we will voice our disagreements, or at least I will.