Restrict Personal Houses to 1 Per Server!

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10-19-2017, 02:08 AM
Sotatsu

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Originally Posted by Abelfei

No different than looting for gear then. Not everyone is going to get one. Some did, you didnt. Not the systems fault, its the way it was meant to be.

The difference between gears and houses is the supply:
- There is an infinite supply for the gear, so you can farm until you get it. Your effort is rewarded.
-Houses are limited. As soon as there are no houses left, your farm is useless, and your efforts will most probably never be rewarded.

Try again.
10-19-2017, 05:19 AM
Niraves

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Originally Posted by Penthea

What players do with their own house is their own business as long as it's not against the terms of use. A player decorating or not decorating their house is a poor argument to allow them keep it or to take it away. The problem has to do with the amount of houses available to the player population, not the quality of decoration.

The game is designed so that you can do everything on one character and SE do nothing to encourage playing alts save for allowing them to be made. You can't even mail your alts. Alts being able to buy plots is definitely an oversight...unfortunately the housing system is riddled with them, so here we are. If you own more than one personal house and one fc house on a single server, you're part of the problem. Whether you decorated them lovingly or not.

What players do with their own house is their own business, you're right. It's not against the ToS, but then again, neither is owning a house on my alt. A player not putting in the time or effort to actually use the house they purchased is no less a poor argument to allow them to keep it than saying that I don't deserve to keep both of my houses because 'there isn't enough to go around'. The problem IS that there aren't enough to go around, but its not MY problem.

The game is designed so that if you put in the time and effort to level an alt, camp the wards and eventually get a little bit lucky you can maybe find a home for your alt. My alt had a house a long time before my main did, and it's not fair to me, or anyone else who managed to get lucky enough to find a plot for their alt, that we should be forced to give up our homes to other players who likely won't even make use of them. If you want a house, do the same thing I did. Camp the wards while you are logged in. Every hour on the hour. For months. For however long it takes.

Taking away other peoples houses just because 'it isn't fair to people who don't have a house!', thats crap. And it even if SE did do this, there STILL wouldn't be enough houses for everyone. All this is going to do is piss off people who put in a lot of effort to get their homes.
10-19-2017, 05:40 AM
Penthea

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Originally Posted by Niraves

Taking away other peoples houses just because 'it isn't fair to people who don't have a house!', thats crap. And it even if SE did do this, there STILL wouldn't be enough houses for everyone. All this is going to do is piss off people who put in a lot of effort to get their homes.

You know what's more crap? Not having a house. If SE are going to continue this awful system with wards, then they're going to have to do something to make sure it isn't abused by players with alts and more money than they need.
10-19-2017, 05:57 AM
Titor

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Wrong. Some people in my fc had no errors, some had only one, others had several.

Really you're woefully uneducated about any of this.

Last time new wards open, I had multiple lobby errors and was over 3k in queue (didn't get anything)
This time, I had no lobby errors and was able to get in.

Everyone is subject to the same process, even if its random. Last time I lived closer to the servers, so it wasn't ping that gave me an edge (Since I didn't get in even being closer and having a good computer). People that got in this time/last time aren't going to get into the front of the queue EVERY TIME.

Also, I am very vehemently against adding anymore restrictions to housing. SE needs to fix the problem not offer tiny bandages over a gaping wound.
10-19-2017, 06:08 AM
Niraves

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Snip.

For the record, I agree that the wards are stupid. I don't think SE will change that system though, but I would personally much rather have instanced housing so that everyone could buy a house if they wanted to.

The wards are usually pretty empty anyway, so I don't see why we can't have instanced housing.
10-19-2017, 06:17 AM
HyoMinPark

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Originally Posted by Ayerinn

As long as existing multi-plot owners are grandfathered in AND they add auto sharing of houses with alts...sure.

...what. Allow someone with 10 plots between 5 characters to keep all the plots AND allow sharing of the plots with each of the alts? No. That defeats the point of such a system. There’s no need for 1 person to have 10 houses shared amongst their characters anyways, especially since supply is so limited in this game. If the personal house on a main character is shared by alts (and they have all the privileges of the main character in terms of decorating, etc.), then why would you need to keep all 10 houses? (Using general “you” here.)
10-19-2017, 06:47 AM
Siniztor

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Originally Posted by Penthea

You know what's more crap? Not having a house. If SE are going to continue this awful system with wards, then they're going to have to do something to make sure it isn't abused by players with alts and more money than they need.

You know whats even more crap..Paying $18 to move to a low pop server cause housing was my #1 priority...Having my 3 houses for a year + watching 200+ empty plots for a year...then people getting a free ride to our server Demanding we give up our houses we had for a year cause now they want a house.. WHEN WE BROKE NO RULES TO GET OUR HOUSES and yet you wanna punish us for not breaking rules. just cause in your opinon now that free transfered happen were greedy when i been sitting like this for a year just fine
10-19-2017, 08:03 AM
Penthea

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

WHEN WE BROKE NO RULES TO GET OUR HOUSES

Healers don't break rules if they don't dps but they risk getting kicked if they don't do it. You can queue for lvl 70 content as a class instead of a job, but you normally would get kicked by a group if you do.

Just because you're able to do something doesn't mean you should, or that you can expect everyone to think it's fair.
10-19-2017, 08:17 AM
Keridwyn

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Originally Posted by Siniztor

You know whats even more crap..Paying $18 to move to a low pop server cause housing was my #1 priority...Having my 3 houses for a year + watching 200+ empty plots for a year...

Hi, fellow person from Coeurl. We didn't have 200+ empty houses (unless you're talking right after 3.3 when they released more wards). Usually at any given time we had several Goblet smalls available and the occasional Lav Beds small. Now and again a medium or two would pop up and sit for a bit as one was demoed. Mist has been consistently full since about a week after 3.3. Did we have empty housing, yes, but it wasn't nearly as dead or available as you keep telling people it was.

I have nothing against multiple house owners but much like the demo timer getting added restricting the amount of houses a single player can own on any given server is one more way they can work within the existing framework and help more people. You're not getting punished because you didn't do anything wrong, just like folks who had their houses demoed didn't do anything wrong, it's just that change didn't favor you this one time. I do feel for you but you won't be the only one who loses out if this happens. If they could combat the house flippers better or if they would get rid of the broken limited wards system for dynamic wards or if they'd make instanced housing like apartments more attractive then we wouldn't be having this conversation but they keep telling us they can't (won't) fix the wards and add more attractive apartments.

We are working with what we've got and until they tell us significant change is coming this is a small change that will help combat house flipping and get a few more houses to people who don't currently have one.
10-19-2017, 10:11 AM
Siniztor

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Originally Posted by Penthea

Healers don't break rules if they don't dps but they risk getting kicked if they don't do it. You can queue for lvl 70 content as a class instead of a job, but you normally would get kicked by a group if you do.

Just because you're able to do something doesn't mean you should, or that you can expect everyone to think it's fair.

Your arguing in game player kicks against people breaking The TOS the DEVS have set... Ok lets break that down shall we. As you said healers don't break any rules not dpsing yet run the risk of getting voke to kicked...those who vote to kick healers for that are guess what Breaking the rules. There is no reason to kick for that. the reasons listed to kick are 1=AFK 2-Offline 3-Harassment 4-Cheating. a healer not dps'ing or not going as a job instead of a class is doing none of them. but the people who kick those people are faslely kicking ,lieing as to why they kicked them because in there personal opinion they don't like there game play...

See the healers not dps'ing and the people who don't do job classes have broke no rules just as the people with multi houses are not breaking the rules.. But the people kicking are lieing as to why there kicking people the Ai to kick has no way to know that so there kicked.

Like i said i have followed SE rules the game makers rules and broke none..your rules don't matter its not your game so just cause you don't like a rule dosn't mean i broke it or cheated.. thats your opinion of the rules.. so your argument breaks down to do what i want or ill break the rules to get what i want

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