That is not the issue, has nothing to do with laziness. For older games, they did not have much tech to work with, so they needed to find creative ways to prolong the life and create a difficulty level, like what Sequelitis - Castlevania 1 vs. Castlevania 2, what he spoke on 1. (I am not linking it because of all the cursing)They had to use the game itself to set the tone of things where now you have more options though art and music (like hor mor dhona was in 1.0, the music, the look of the place, really made you feel on edge with the strong monsters (I was never lv 50 in 1.0)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wade
Now that you have better tech for developing games, you think development of them would find more creative ways to extend the life of a game. Simply beating RNG is not an achievement, nor is it an investment of work. I just want to be able do something but I can't because it takes too long. For example I have tried to get the nightmare mount but it is too rare of a drop to make a static for it to kill in a reasonable time, even doing gargua as a 5 man, around 1 min 30 sec kills , 3 mins max/ total for queuing, exiting and such.. I think it was, for 3 hours and not seeing one? Sorry that is a flaw, an oversight, too low drop rate then intended when development team makes statements like this:
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“We’re not worried about the concurrent users. We look more to the daily active users and the monthly active users.”
It is not about being handed anything, it is about needing to invest more time then what people are able to, and it needs to be considered that messing around with inhuman RNG on these mounts is not the only content to do. You still have to deal with RNG with the weekly limit stuff, and I am sure you need complete the new 24 man thing in a week or miss out. With all the Do this or miss out weeklies and daily stuff you need to do, there isn't enough time to be doing 99 runs for a mount.
Where is that stated? they said "We’re not worried about the concurrent users. We look more to the daily active users and the monthly active users.” SO such a system is an oversight/ and or bugged, "lower then intended drop rates"Quote:
Originally Posted by Vidu
Drop Rates of mounts from Extreme primals & Dungeons
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09-02-2017, 06:15 AMSnow_Princess
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09-02-2017, 06:20 AMArutanBecause that's the new generation: not doing a thing and expect to get everything. Surely a game is fun when everything is given to you without doing anything. Where's the game in this anyway, who needs a game, all they need is flashy pixels because it looks cool and make them hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ilan
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09-02-2017, 06:21 AMBourne_EndeavorLet's say the 99 token exchange releases with 4.1; roughly a month from now. That amounts to 0.85% of hours invested on Primal farming between 4.0 and 4.1. If you consider it too much, play a different game. There is little else that can be said. It takes less time for me to play through Life if Strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow_Princess
Developers do not have infinite resources. No matter what game, genre or how innovative the content proves to be, we consume it far too quickly. You can argue until your blue in the face but it doesn't change the reality old Primals would be complete dead content by now. Want proof? Try queuing for Alexander or Coil tonight. You'll be waiting over an hour, if it ever pops to begin with. Why? No one does them because there is no reward. They don't care. Put a mount in A8N and I guarantee people will start running Brute Justice far more frequently. Calling it laziness only shows you can't appreciate the developers can't make enough content. This isn't unique to FFXIV either, but every single game released. What you're looking for is a hand out-- something you have to put in virtually no effort towards obtaining because you can't be bothered to run something more than once or twice. You are precisely the type of player developers don't cater to. Why? You'll only do everything a couple times, meaning nothing lasts beyond a week. That, in turn, leads to people unsubbing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow_Princess
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09-02-2017, 06:22 AMKeridwyn
You're yelling about there not being enough time after weekly stuff to grind mounts without realizing that for some of us we don't care about the weekly stuff. I don't care if I capped tomes/scrips or did my WT book. Don't care if my challenge log is done. Level other jobs at a lazy pace. But I can, have, and will continue to happily spend my time grinding for EX primal mounts because that is where my priorities lie.
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09-02-2017, 06:24 AMWade
FFS I keep seeing this quoted “We’re not worried about the concurrent users. We look more to the daily active users and the monthly active users.” but no one quoting it is actually thinking it through. If you have to log in 99 days in a row and play 15 minutes for a mount you are a daily active user - you adhere to that rule! You are quoting something that disagrees with your argument!
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09-02-2017, 06:29 AMClaviusnexI don't understand why you even bother with the game the way you are always complaining about having to play it to complete tasks or obtain items. Every thread is another "It's not fair" argument because you are forced to make choices as to what activities you do each time you log on. Every other player makes those same choices so what makes you so special? Maybe if you spent less time with useless complaining on the forums you might find you have more time to play the game.Quote:
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09-02-2017, 06:34 AMSnow_PrincessAnd if it took less time you would do more of those other things right? Only proves it takes too much time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keridwyn
I do not understand why you need to insist running something for 99 times is a good thing, it is pointless uncreative time sink that not everyone can do. I am shocked it is in the game to begin with and even more socked people are defending it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Claviusnex
You mean you can't picture people "unsubing" over things taking too long so they are unable to really play and enjoy?Quote:
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09-02-2017, 06:54 AMVahlnirDoing those fights through PF has always been preferable over randoming 7 strangers together. Always. You're so far out in left field with this topic. Clearly you're being disagreed with, and I'd imagine the devs also disagree considering how they implement content. That isn't them slighting you, or people with your point of view...this is them catering to what the majority wants. You are in the minority. And the majority seem to be doing just fine. What's stopping you from being part of the majority? Gonna have to come up with something beyond "it's not fair because reasons".Quote:
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09-02-2017, 07:01 AMKeridwynThanks but no, actually it wouldn't. I genuinely don't care enough about the carrots at the end of the weekly sticks to do the weekly thing. Thus the primal mount grind feels like a rewarding use of my sub. You can disagree, I don't mind we are all different, but don't assume that given more time I would do more things.Quote:
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09-02-2017, 07:02 AMRokkePeople make PFs as you can pick and chose party setup, classes, ilv, and loot rules while also being able to requeue instantly with a full group. It makes for faster runs. Faster runs = more runs, more runs = more chances to see dogs, birds, ponies drop.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snow_Princess
And yes, it is a time sink. Annoying as they are the game kinda needs them to keep people running things. If I was guaranteed drops on my first clear I wouldn't step foot in the EXs after getting my loot lol