The event is now live. :O

I'm already feeling Praetorium whiplash.

https://media.tenor.com/PtdLpMTE1yYA...-hairballs.gif

Cat relevant to my emotions.

I'll be seeing all of you in Frontline.

Oh, I thought you meant the other event.

I already have 30+ tomes. I'll have all my emotes by the end of my next day off.

Well, if I go for everything I don't have, that's 590 tomes. The question now is how much of it I actually care to grind for. We'll see.

The Rising quest was enjoyable.

The first letter in the post-quest list definitely made me laugh unintentionally though. The very first message you can read speaks about the importance of the forums and it just feels so hollow when they never reply to anything here.

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The very first message you can read speaks about the importance of the forums and it just feels so hollow when they never reply to anything here.

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it must be very hard to do that when for the last few months we have had nothing but "noise", static, abuse and a small clique of people shouting down anyone who dared disagree with their harsh, cynical, jaded and utterly hostile attitude.

I was actually surprised some of the more...vitriolic..people were allowed to go on for this long. To my mind, what we see now with those "voices' gone is more conducive to actual communication on game issues. I have never been one for harsh moderation, but to my mind? in this case a broom was sorely needed.

Maybe in the future we will see more better avenues for them to talk to us now a more...pleasant....atmosphere prevails.

Ive done both parts of the Rising now, it was wonderful and uplifting. The mount is magnificent. Maybe, before we look at what they have to say and ask why they dont talk to us, ask yourself if recently they had any reason to do so

I get feedback, i get dissatisfaction in some areas of the game, sure. Nothing is perfect, it never will be.

FF 14 isnt perfect, but it is again heads and tails better than a lot I have seen over the years . I for one respect YoshiP and his team, they have worked tirelessly to give us a damned enjoyable gaming experience. There has been, to my knowledge, never been an event like this in other MMO's...so with all respect to my colleagues and fellow Warriors of Light...I submit that communication is a two way street.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

never been an event like this in other MMO's...et.

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Other MMO events usually respect the brain of the playerbase and let them actually play the game instead of watching cutscenes for 20 minutes for a freebie reward.

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Originally Posted by Shinkuno

Other MMO events usually respect the brain of the playerbase and let them actually play the game instead of watching cutscenes for 20 minutes for a freebie reward.

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Thank you for proving my point. The gameplay in FF 14 has been this way since ARR and before. But you knew that already.

I personally am enjoying the game immensely,. absolutely loved Endwalker and its story, have enjoyed the expac and its many features. Endwalker to me has been a success and was worth every moment.

Im honestly sorry you dont share that feeling.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

The gameplay in FF 14 has been this way since ARR and before.

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I've been there since the closed alpha of 1.0. What you're saying is factually wrong.

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I've been there since the closed alpha of 1.0. What you're saying is factually wrong.

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I wasnt here for 1.0, sadly. My experience started in ARR...so tell me, what changed?

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Originally Posted by Karious

I'll be seeing all of you in Frontline Rival Wings.

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FTFY

Looking forward to the influx of participants with pulses and not much else.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

I wasnt here for 1.0, sadly. My experience started in ARR...so tell me, what changed?

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As far as "before ARR", the battle system was completely different with a stamina bar and more akin to a beefed up FFXI.

ARR had way more customisation options when it came to stats (though, those were mostly superfluous). MP, TP and aggro management were a thing till ShB. Role actions also weren't a thing in ARR. You had cross job skills that you got from leveling other jobs. The list goes on.

If you watch old YT videos from like a few expansions ago the game is barely recognisable anymore. Whether you like the changes or not (I don't), the gameplay is quite different. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a completely different one (if we exclude 1.0), but saying nothing has changed? If nothing got significantly altered, then why are all jobs slowly eroded to fit into the new-ish status quo? Looking at you, PLD.

The game has a bad habit of "QoL" so incessantly they remove entire gameplay features and only now are people starting to see the writing on the wall after DPS are being pruned as well.

I do wish XIV's holiday events had more actual...gameplay tied to them.

WoW's tended to be multi-layered with combat-related activities, goofy minigames, and other stuff to give them longevity past the initial story quests.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

I've been there since the closed alpha of 1.0. What you're saying is factually wrong.

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Hell even if they regretted it later they locked the entire conclusion to the dalamud storyline behind a savage raid series

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I do wish XIV's holiday events had more actual...gameplay tied to them.

WoW's tended to be multi-layered with combat-related activities, goofy minigames, and other stuff to give them longevity past the initial story quests.

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All I remember are recycled, old content with the same rewards each year. You sure we played the same game?

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Hell even if they regretted it later they locked the entire conclusion to the dalamud storyline behind a savage raid series

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You can DF the normal version or unsynch it and blast through. It's not a big deal I don't think.

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

You can DF the normal version or unsynch it and blast through. It's not a big deal I don't think.

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Oh I mean Ive also been here since legacy and I know you can unsync coils now, but on the release of the 2.0 patches if you wanted to know what happened to lousioux and Bahamut then you better be good enough to clear coils or tough luck

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Originally Posted by KageTokage

I do wish XIV's holiday events had more actual...gameplay tied to them.

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I stopped doing these events ages ago. It's the same oversimplified stuff but now with a slightly different token at the end. Neither challenging nor entertaining. So it's perfect for the average MMO player. lol It's like beast tribes but with FOMO and those I can only endure while listening to a podcast.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Oh I mean Ive also been here since legacy and I know you can unsync coils now, but on the release of the 2.0 patches if you wanted to know what happened to lousioux and Bahamut then you better be good enough to clear coils or tough luck

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That's fair. A friend of mine joined FF like three years ago and he did all of it via DF so I guess it's possible. I did Coils as WHM synched. Man, that was so much fun. lol

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

That's fair. A friend of mine joined FF like three years ago and he did all of it via DF so I guess it's possible. I did Coils as WHM synched. Man, that was so much fun. lol

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I did coils on patch as well (on SCH) and they are still my favourite raid tier, I also did second coil savage (well except for T7S, that fight is evil and I have never been able to clear it, nor do I think I ever will)

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Originally Posted by Payadopa

As far as "before ARR", the battle system was completely different with a stamina bar and more akin to a beefed up FFXI.

ARR had way more customisation options when it came to stats (though, those were mostly superfluous). MP, TP and aggro management were a thing till ShB. Role actions also weren't a thing in ARR. You had cross job skills that you got from leveling other jobs. The list goes on.

If you watch old YT videos from like a few expansions ago the game is barely recognisable anymore. Whether you like the changes or not (I don't), the gameplay is quite different. I wouldn't go so far as to say it's a completely different one (if we exclude 1.0), but saying nothing has changed? If nothing got significantly altered, then why are all jobs slowly eroded to fit into the new-ish status quo? Looking at you, PLD.

The game has a bad habit of "QoL" so incessantly they remove entire gameplay features and only now are people starting to see the writing on the wall after DPS are being pruned as well.

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Payadopa, you are about to give me PTSD over here. Thank god we dont have the fatigue system anymore and how crafting and gathering was. Don't get me started on that UI and could not even jump. I ran back to WoW after that.

I can understand that people want more gameplay during events like this (The Rising 2018 was the best one). But in my honest opinion, I am totally fine with that because I love stories and stuff like this make me happy.

I started in Nov. 2021. Pretty much as soon as I hit lvl 50, an 80 NIN and RDM offered to carry me through coils unsynched, just for the story. I've since paid the favor forward many times over. I think everyone should see it.

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Originally Posted by NekiUno

Payadopa, you are about to give me PTSD over here. Thank god we dont have the fatigue system anymore and how crafting and gathering was. Don't get me started on that UI and could not even jump. I ran back to WoW after that.

I can understand that people want more gameplay during events like this (The Rising 2018 was the best one). But in my honest opinion, I am totally fine with that because I love stories and stuff like this make me happy.

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Whatever your opinion on legacy can you imagine 2023 square enix actually making an event like the rising 2018

Yeah lets just recreate half the world from legacy including it’s world events, music and the fall of dalamud and just make it a seasonal event you can do

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Whatever your opinion on legacy can you imagine 2023 square enix actually making an event like the rising 2018

Yeah lets just recreate half the world from legacy including it’s world events, music and the fall of dalamud and just make it a seasonal event you can do

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Actually that would be a good idea to give new players like yourself and others the opportunity to experience those last days of 1.0 (I was there but sadly, I dont have that account anymore).

yes did Aglaia in like forever. Not suprised, but kinda funny how bosses die before they get to actually do their mechanics properly

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Originally Posted by NekiUno

Actually that would be a good idea to give new players like yourself and others the opportunity to experience those last days of 1.0 (I was there but sadly, I dont have that account anymore).

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I’m a legacy player, the event wouldn’t be for me, I still appreciated the hell out of it

Funnily enough doing some account fusion shenanigans actually permanently fused these red goggles to my account, I can’t take them off

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

I’m a legacy player, the event wouldn’t be for me, I still appreciated the hell out of it

Funnily enough doing some account fusion shenanigans actually permanently fused these red goggles to my account, I can’t take them off

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I wish I can fusion my account too if I can remember it :P.

But that would be nice if the game had something like that but nothing beats being there looking at that damn red moon with the servers about to shut down.

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Originally Posted by VelKallor

it must be very hard to do that when for the last few months we have had nothing but "noise", static, abuse and a small clique of people shouting down anyone who dared disagree with their harsh, cynical, jaded and utterly hostile attitude.

I was actually surprised some of the more...vitriolic..people were allowed to go on for this long. To my mind, what we see now with those "voices' gone is more conducive to actual communication on game issues. I have never been one for harsh moderation, but to my mind? in this case a broom was sorely needed.

Maybe in the future we will see more better avenues for them to talk to us now a more...pleasant....atmosphere prevails.

Ive done both parts of the Rising now, it was wonderful and uplifting. The mount is magnificent. Maybe, before we look at what they have to say and ask why they dont talk to us, ask yourself if recently they had any reason to do so

I get feedback, i get dissatisfaction in some areas of the game, sure. Nothing is perfect, it never will be.

FF 14 isnt perfect, but it is again heads and tails better than a lot I have seen over the years . I for one respect YoshiP and his team, they have worked tirelessly to give us a damned enjoyable gaming experience. There has been, to my knowledge, never been an event like this in other MMO's...so with all respect to my colleagues and fellow Warriors of Light...I submit that communication is a two way street.

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Bro acting like anyone who wants the game to improve and speaks negatively about its direction are all part of a secret clique that needs to be eradicated.
This post of yours ain't the W you think it is. Makes you look unhinged.

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Originally Posted by Supersnow845

Whatever your opinion on legacy can you imagine 2023 square enix actually making an event like the rising 2018

Yeah lets just recreate half the world from legacy including it’s world events, music and the fall of dalamud and just make it a seasonal event you can do

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Were we playing different versions of the game back then? All I recall them "recreating" was a horde of monsters in the middle of present-day Ul'dah.

Where was I supposed to go for this half a world of legacy content?

https://media.tenor.com/XmkVbYRVIN8A...v-louisoix.gif

How very glib.

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Originally Posted by Iscah

Were we playing different versions of the game back then? All I recall them "recreating" was a horde of monsters in the middle of present-day Ul'dah.

Where was I supposed to go for this half a world of legacy content?

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Actually, there is a way you can get that content, but I don't think they would do that because of technical reasons but New Game + would be a good place imo.

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Originally Posted by Gullis

yes did Aglaia in like forever. Not suprised, but kinda funny how bosses die before they get to actually do their mechanics properly

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If anything that's sad, not funny. If I were a new player I'd stop playing if I had to sit through ARR till EW getting bosses that die within their introductory monologue. Bonus points if the MSQ hyped them up for 20 hours. Do people also enjoy movies where the main antagonist dies off screen within the first 30 minutes only for the actors to shuffle about for another hour? lol I don't think this is even remotely acceptable but in XIV it's praised. By all means, make them soloable through trusts or whatever but at least stop dumbing them down to the point of caricature.

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Originally Posted by NekiUno

Actually, there is a way you can get that content, but I don't think they would do that because of technical reasons but New Game + would be a good place imo.

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That doesn't answer my original question (where was all this alleged additional content I don't recall from the 2018 Rising event) but also doesn't make sense in itself.

If the way to get this content is so cryptic that you can't even tell me what it is, it is clearly not in the game.

And New Game Plus is for replaying content that currently exists in the game, which 1.0 content – if that's what you're alluding to – is not. But you aren't explaining yourself so I can only make wild guesses at your meaning.

“Event” /10char

i wish they would change this event up praetorium is the worst content in the game they need to add another dungeon one that doesnt take a lifetime to complete that gives the same amount of tomes as prae

"watch a movie for 20 minutes back to back" simulator
"event"

lmao

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Originally Posted by Iscah

That doesn't answer my original question (where was all this alleged additional content I don't recall from the 2018 Rising event) but also doesn't make sense in itself.

If the way to get this content is so cryptic that you can't even tell me what it is, it is clearly not in the game.

And New Game Plus is for replaying content that currently exists in the game, which 1.0 content – if that's what you're alluding to – is not. But you aren't explaining yourself so I can only make wild guesses at your meaning.

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Actually, you must be talking to him because the only thing I was saying that 2018 Rising event was the best one imo and I miss those last moments of 1.0 looking at the red moon. About NG+ with 1.0, it would be a nice idea but there is no way to do that.

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Originally Posted by NekiUno

Actually, you must be talking to him because the only thing I was saying that 2018 Rising event was the best one imo and I miss those last moments of 1.0 looking at the red moon.

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That isn't remotely what you wrote in your reply to my previous post.