Duration of Maneuvers & New Animators!

[Svens]

I just don't get it... I can't be the only person to have noticed an improvement over the Turbo Animator... honestly, if there's no noticeable difference, then just go back to using your Turbo... right? I mean everyone has an opinion, and I appreciate hearing others' take on the issue--but I can't help but wonder... is it easier to say you don't see something (such as an improvement to your automaton's overall performance by using a higher-quality item) primarily because you "want" the devs to make a new animator?... I too "would" love a new animator IF I felt it was necessary... as I previously mentioned... I don't think it's necessary.

If SE feels a new animator is needed because the current ones are just not performing as intended.... then so be it. However, as a pup (and I've been playing the job since its inception)....having had experience with all 3 animators, I can say... it's not the animator that's the issue... if you don't have a +1...get it. If you do and you still want a new animator, then perhaps the issue lies somewhere else. I'm just sayin'.

Define what improvements you are seeing between turbo and +1 and provide the tests and data to prove it. Otherwise, the only difference between the two are an additional +2 Dex for the master and +HP/MP for the automaton. Thus, the only improvements you should see are +1% acc (if uncapped), +crit rate, and your automaton not dropping below the hp/mp threshold to cast drain/aspir as often.

As for the OP, I am in favor of increasing maneuver duration and at least one more new animator. Would not mind an animator +2 with blue box to complement WoE+2 and AF3+2.

[xiozen]

Define what improvements you are seeing between turbo and +1 and provide the tests and data to prove it. Otherwise, the only difference between the two are an additional +2 Dex for the master and +HP/MP for the automaton. Thus, the only improvements you should see are +1% acc (if uncapped), +crit rate, and your automaton not dropping below the hp/mp threshold to cast drain/aspir as often.

As for the OP, I am in favor of increasing maneuver duration and at least one more new animator. Would not mind an animator +2 with blue box to complement WoE+2 and AF3+2.

Consider everything I'm saying as my opinion, as such the need to provide tests and data to prove it is moot, since opinions do not require proof. If you don't believe me, then don't believe me. SE developed this game and the animators... if anyone can provide proof of the differences between the animators, I would recommend redirecting your request for proof, to them.

An animator +2 to enhance the animator +1, would be a very nice addition to the game and since having the Turbo Animator was not a requirement in order to obtain the Animator +1, to be consistent I'd suggest not making it a requirement to have a +1 ver in order to obtain a +2.

[Lushipur]

Consider everything I'm saying as my opinion, as such the need to provide tests and data to prove it is moot, since opinions do not require proof. If you don't believe me, then don't believe me. SE developed this game and the animators... if anyone can provide proof of the differences between the animators, I would recommend redirecting your request for proof, to them.

i still dont understand what are you talking about.

liv 1 animator give no bonus;
liv 40 turbo animator give +2 dex...wiki say that may increase automaton response time but i never read of test and data to confirm this;
liv 71 animator+1 give +4 dex and an amount of hp/mp based on frame;

thats all.

[xiozen]

i still dont understand what are you talking about.

liv 1 animator give no bonus;
liv 40 turbo animator give +2 dex...wiki say that may increase automaton response time but i never read of test and data to confirm this;
liv 71 animator+1 give +4 dex and an amount of hp/mp based on frame;

thats all.

You've made it pretty obvious you don't know what I'm talking about. I repeat my earlier suggestion---redirect your inquiry to the SE Devs... I'm sure they'll shed some light on the animator +1 for you and it's functions. But consider this... SE has pointed out in the past that many items have "hidden" functions... I'm not sure if you are aware of this. From my personal experience with this particular item, I'm fairly positive, it too, has a hidden function(s)... but again, it's my opinion. I'm just thankful to have it.

Cheers X_X

[TrentWeskin]

You've made it pretty obvious you don't know what I'm talking about. I repeat my earlier suggestion---redirect your inquiry to the SE Devs... I'm sure they'll shed some light on the animator +1 for you and it's functions. But consider this... SE has pointed out in the past that many items have "hidden" functions... I'm not sure if you are aware of this. From my personal experience with this particular item, I'm fairly positive, it too, has a hidden function(s)... but again, it's my opinion. I'm just thankful to have it.

Cheers X_X

Lushipur is stating the fact that the hidden effects are already known.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Animator_%2B1

They are less than amazing is what he is saying.
Please pay attention to what people are writing before you post.

[xiozen]

Lushipur is stating the fact that the hidden effects are already known.

http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Animator_%2B1

They are less than amazing is what he is saying.
Please pay attention to what people are writing before you post.

I think it's because I was paying attention that I got so lost in this discussion in the first place... I stand by my original position. /cheers ^.^