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  1. #191
    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Futan View Post
    Based on the Goad items from the .DAT mines, it looks like there will be another trial. I very much doubt it will level the playing field, but it's wait-and-see for now.
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/goad

    Judging from the name those are probably just pop items for NMs. If a magian trial was involved then there would have been new .dats for them. None of the relic .dats were updated so any changes would have been made to existing weapons as was done with Burtgang and Aegis. And that would have been in the update notes along with the changes to Aegis and Burtgang.
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 05-10-2011 at 05:14 AM.

  2. #192
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/goad

    Judging from the name those are probably just pop items for NMs. If a magian trial was involved then there would have been new .dats for them. None of the relic .dats were updated so any changes would have been made to existing weapons as was done with Burtgang and Aegis. And that would have been in the update notes along with the changes to Aegis and Burtgang.
    Oh yeah. Forgot they were making them pop NMs. :x

    And about the relic .dats not changing, my line of thinking was that since the level cap isn't changing, they just put augments on them like they did the early trials.
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  3. #193
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vold View Post
    They've already mentioned they are adjusting relics/mythics/empyreans in the future. What more do you want? They can't do everything by yesterday.
    Everyone saw that but nothing is firm; it has been sooooo long since aby out and people who started this game two weeks ago are now having a emp wpn which out dmg a fighter jet in real life.

    Along with all other relic/mythic owners, i feel disappointingly upseting and stupid; except the 'indication of dedication'.

    Of cause the moderator/dev knows that, regardless whether they are working on it or not, I just want to express our thoughts.
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  4. #194
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    Hey SE, I love the increase in Aegis, I just hope you follow that up with some awesome new changes to relics. Can we get an idea when you plan on doing this.
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    99 Drk, 99 Sch, 99 Bst, 99 Geo and a ton of other jobs there
    110 +5 Bonecraft
    Level 99 Relic Scythe

  5. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unctgtg View Post
    Hey SE, I love the increase in Aegis, I just hope you follow that up with some awesome new changes to relics. Can we get an idea when you plan on doing this.
    (J/K)

    The plan will take place in the near future update and requirement is as follow:

    Base Condition -
    1. After everyone gets an empyrean weapon
    2. After about 30% of total population get a relic weapon

    Prerequisite -
    Relic-reborn prerequisite quests:
    1. 50 corresponding testy
    2. 50 corresponding fragments
    3. Defeat DL 16 times.

    Upgrade Trials -
    10 trials, 2000 kill-shot each on xp yielding monster WITHIN Dyna area.

    After all trials have been completed players will be able to unleash equal amount of damage as of a empyrean weapon weapon-skill.

    TYVM you will not have time to sleep or eat for the next 4-5 years. Cg obtaining your apoc.

    (j/k)
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  6. #196
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    I just noticed something about the mog bonanza.

    Anyone notice that lvl 90 relics *and* 10k unit currencies are both on the prize list? I can't think of a logical reason for this unless...

    What if they are planning on making the 90-99 upgrades for relics and empyreans require a 10k unit currency?
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    Last edited by Atomic_Skull; 05-12-2011 at 05:57 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atomic_Skull View Post
    I just noticed something about the mog bonanza.

    Anyone notice that lvl 90 relics *and* 10k unit currencies are both on the prize list? I can't think of a locical reason for this unless...

    What if they are planning on making the 90-99 upgrades for relics and empyreans require a 10k unit currency?
    than they have to fix the droprate >.>

    before update it was like:
    every 3rd day one dynamis with 150-400+ currencys in 3 1/2 hour (best i saw was 950 in a single run).
    (based on a complete ls farming them)
    now it is this way:
    in 3 days roughly 150 currencys in 6 hours.
    (if u have luck and 1 100 drops)

    tbh i have no idea how this should make relics easier.
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  8. #198
    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukat View Post

    tbh i have no idea how this should make relics easier.
    I don't think it was meant to make them easier, I think it was meant to thwart people from buying their Relics with gil. Someone at SE apparently didn't like the idea of people upgrading a relic solo by making gil elsewhere and then buying all their currency from bazaars and only setting foot in Dynamis to merc the base weapon, Attestation and Fragment.

    Before you could farm craft etc. and then buy currency from Dynamis LS's. Now you won't be able to do that, you'll have to farm with an alliance if you want to amass large amounts of currency.

    I think that in the devs eyes, people had warped their concept of Relics where a group cooperates to make a single weapon. Instead you had a lot of people who were upgrading relics all by themselves by doing activities that had nothing to do with Relics or Dynamis and SE decided to put a stop to it.
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  9. #199
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    well, i made an own ls to farm the currencys for mandau. took me 1 1/2 year. if that really should be their plan it would take almost 5-10 ,or even many more, years to get it done (except there are some things to make 100's drop what we don't know yet), with the same number of ppl.
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    Player Atomic_Skull's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alukat View Post
    well, i made an own ls to farm the currencys for mandau. took me 1 1/2 year. if that really should be their plan it would take almost 5-10 ,or even many more, years to get it done (except there are some things to make 100's drop what we don't know yet), with the same number of ppl.
    If you get 1 100 per run it will take you 188 runs. You won't be lowmanning relics in a reasonable amount of time but a large LS can probably do one in about a year to a year and a half going 3 times a week assuming they get a couple 100's each time.

    Assuming SE was serious about fixing relics *and* they make them actually worth the time invested then I don't have a problem with that. We don't need to turn every single thing in the game into something you can do in a week with a couple people.
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