100% PDT for PET is plain BS.

[Ilax]

Also major mistake for letting DDs have more than 10% crit rate, more than 10% added HP, and give mages more than +5 Refresh, while you are at it.

If you want to gimp one set of jobs, gimp them all, gimp them all the way back to 75 levels!

PLD hardly able to get they place in abyssea due to inability to tank and hold hate decently even after working 1yr + 240 mil+ with Aegis, but hey a stupid BST with Sheep and a -100% PDT that take 2 week effort are able right?

I see 2 choice here, totally unlock PDT for all job or nerf this bullshit, i don't care if is even MAX PDT -90~-95%, see PET get 0 dmg for every move is just BS specially when the job take 60+ min to kill.

[Greatguardian]

If an Aegis PLD can't hold hate, they're doing it wrong. Hate has nothing at all to do with why Paladin is lame in Abyssea.

Also, Burtgang breaks the PDT cap for Paladin now. Testing with Aegis shows the new MDT cap goes up to at least 87.5%, so it's possible Burtgang does the same.

[GlobalVariable]

The amount of absolute crying and "Don't be hatin'" in this thread is hilarious.

Glad you realize both are going on not just one. People say SE has yet to meet the middle ground but the players themselves can't ever meet in the middle either, its always so polarized.

Ducal Guard has always been a wonky atma. Summoners got the nerfbat swung at them because they were rocking 100% PDT. Bst and Pup still have it, so either it was intentional and you have nothing to worry about or it wasn't and they'll fix it.

Avatars have that big elemental resistance with it though. I could be wrong but I thought the problem was they could literally walk around like a god ignoring both there element and melee damage. I have to heal my pet still for nearly everything (some I can end fight before it dies). Some jugs do have a partial resistance but its not enough to afk and come back to a win like people are acting. And I know nothing about pup so I can't comment there.

And the whole "well people don't let me use X" line of thought people use is plain crazy, a jobs gear and abilities are not the games way of compensating us for the attitudes of our fellow players.

[GlobalVariable]

PLD hardly able to get they place in abyssea due to inability to tank and hold hate decently even after working 1yr + 240 mil+ with Aegis, but hey a stupid BST with Sheep and a -100% PDT that take 2 week effort are able right?

Not the BST fault abyssea made PLD feel useless.

I see 2 choice here, totally unlock PDT for all job or nerf this bullshit, i don't care if is even MAX PDT -90~-95%, see PET get 0 dmg for every move is just BS specially when the job take 60+ min to kill.

Like I was saying earlier, just give us all the same reasonably high global cap. And I already have some jobs that are not pets being hit for singles digits and zeroes very consistently. Its not that hard to pull off.

[Cyranda]

You're kidding, right? You read my earlier posts in their entirety, right? There is a difference between "Okay, we need you on WAR to fill out our Reds" and "Pfft Bst sucks u suck get on war lol noob".

So you let people come on things they like when it's convenient FOR YOU under the guise of "for the group" because it's more efficient and helps you get your stuff faster and, of course, probably does nothing for them (I'd wager that you probably spend the the vast majority of the time getting "stuff for jobs that help the most" and relegating your BST/PUP/SMN loving "friends" to the back burner in terms of how you distribute loot, too, or they get the "scraps" that are left over). If they're willing to do so, the point is irrelevant. If someone despises playing other jobs and/or really likes their BST, or only has BST leveled, why not just let them come on it all the time?

Pet jobs need to get over their victim complex. It's annoying, and to the rest of the game is a far bigger reason to avoid you than the job itself could ever be.

No, they don't, and I'd say your attitude is more annoying. You've essentially stated that they can only really come when it *doesn't matter*, and when it actually does (or you think it does, anyway), you don't take them. Man, is that ever a great position to be in! "Well, there's no reason not to bring you today, Mrs. BST, so you can come. If it matters, though, to hell with you!" That's more of a reason to feel victimized than not because you're essentially being a fair-weather friend and will selfishly strip them of fun whenever it suits you. And yes, it IS more selfish for you to do that because the VAST majority of the time, them coming on BST won't hinder anyone, and probably still help to boot (some help is better than none).

But I suppose that's the thing. They have to make the maximum sacrifice possible for you to be happy or they're not good "team members." Of course, in this case, you don't actually care how that member of your team feels, despite that they're still helping you either kill the monster faster, kill adds, hold it while people are down. See:

If playing any job but XXX is plain not fun, then Endgame is not fun and that person should just not do Endgame."

Ridiculous, but I suppose it is true that they should probably leave your LS because you'll be a jerk to them, but that's the entirety of the problem.

[Greatguardian]

So you let people come on things they like when it's convenient FOR YOU under the guise of "for the group" because it's more efficient and helps you get your stuff faster and, of course, probably does nothing for them (I'd wager that you probably spend the the vast majority of the time getting "stuff for jobs that help the most" and relegating your BST/PUP/SMN loving "friends" to the back burner in terms of how you distribute loot, too, or they get the "scraps" that are left over). If they're willing to do so, the point is irrelevant. If someone despises playing other jobs and/or really likes their BST, or only has BST leveled, why not just let them come on it all the time?

So much bitterness. So you had some bad experiences with endgame shells, huh? Know some people that did? Or maybe you just feel like buying into the "Woe is us" complex? It doesn't really matter. My shell runs events fairly. Everyone gets the loot they earn, no matter what job it's for. You just make yourself look more and more stereotypically ignorant every time you post this rubbish. If so many people have similar problems, get better freaking shells.

No, they don't, and I'd say your attitude is more annoying. You've essentially stated that they can only really come when it *doesn't matter*, and when it actually does (or you think it does, anyway), you don't take them. Man, is that ever a great position to be in! "Well, there's no reason not to bring you today, Mrs. BST, so you can come. If it matters, though, to hell with you!" That's more of a reason to feel victimized than not because you're essentially being a fair-weather friend and will selfishly strip them of fun whenever it suits you. And yes, it IS more selfish for you to do that because the VAST majority of the time, them coming on BST won't hinder anyone, and probably still help to boot (some help is better than none).

I never said I don't take people. Where'd you get that from? Oh, unless those people simply sit out if they are asked to come non-Bst. But that's just childish of them. You seem to think events these days are things to be taken super cereals all the time. Hint: They're not. Dynamis? Got a black mage and a couple healy ish mages? Kay, everyone else do whatever the hell you want. Rinse and repeat for pretty much every level 75 event aside from AV. Get over yourself.

But I suppose that's the thing. They have to make the maximum sacrifice possible for you to be happy or they're not good "team members." Of course, in this case, you don't actually care how that member of your team feels, despite that they're still helping you either kill the monster faster, kill adds, hold it while people are down.

The goal is for everyone to be successful. That is not "my" goal. That is the goal of the group. Am I going to try and farm pop sets without Red procs? Hell no. Am I going to start fighting NMs with no one on a mage job? Hell no. Do I really care at all if a guy comes PUP or PLD once Procs and basic Healing are accounted for? Hell no. Oh and for the record, I spent years playing White Mage for my linkshell just so other people didn't have to because I'm not a brat. Get off your high horse.

See:

Ridiculous, but I suppose it is true that they should probably leave your LS because you'll be a jerk to them, but that's the entirety of the problem.

You assume I'm a jerk. Ask anyone who actually knows me from my server/linkshell. I'm a nice, laid back guy who generally lets people do whatever the hell they want as long as we don't wipefail at the end of the day. And yes, I still can't stand your attitude or the attitude of players who share it. Teamwork is not a bunch of people saying "Me Me Me" in unison. It's everyone saying "We We We". Sometimes, "We" needs a Warrior more than a Beastmaster. Get the hell over it.

[Luvbunny]

The goal is for everyone else with their 2-3 LOLs jobs to shut it until SE implement some changes with the next updates. Abysea made some LOLs jobs in the past become a better fun jobs to play and give solo jobs more reason to do stuffs on their own. All those dead jobs can either suck it, or wait till they get updated, it's your time for now at least to bear and grin it. A lot of other jobs had their shit moments, from Drg, Mnk, Thf, Blm, Whm, Smn, Pup, Bst, etc. Now those jobs suddenly have their shining moments with Abysea. The game is better than ever now, SE just have to tweak all the rest that are still not yet optimized.

[Bigboy]

This isn't really broken. It only works for a few encounters, and sucks up a lot of time in the process. As was mentioned in another thread... BST had it's core job ability made useless in Abyssea. I think most BST would like to throw the zone's worth of mobs at an NM, but charm works on NOTHING in Abyssea. Imagine having provoke not work, or if they made every WS into trash that wasn't even worth wasting TP on. That is basically what happened to BST, except we can tank some things really well solo. Not much, but some things. Any mobs that casts will kill the pet, and that's a lot of mobs.

[ShadowHeart]

become a ninja
2 x 10 pdt katana - 20
aht gi +1 nad head - 15
twilight neck - 5
grab 2 augment rings from abyssea - 10
throw on ducal guard oh now ur at - 100 pft and all that attack gear u can now add and atmas... alot more powerful then beast there are ways to do jobs which u can stack this on monk as well and throw in BB so gee ur crying about a pet job lol take a look at the monks right now....

[Greatguardian]

become a ninja
2 x 10 pdt katana - 20
aht gi +1 nad head - 15
twilight neck - 5
grab 2 augment rings from abyssea - 10
throw on ducal guard oh now ur at - 100 pft and all that attack gear u can now add and atmas... alot more powerful then beast there are ways to do jobs which u can stack this on monk as well and throw in BB so gee ur crying about a pet job lol take a look at the monks right now....

Player PDT caps at 50% unless you have a Burtgang. It's only pets that can hit anywhere over that =/.