100% PDT for PET is plain BS.

[Greatguardian]

So you let people come on things they like when it's convenient FOR YOU under the guise of "for the group" because it's more efficient and helps you get your stuff faster and, of course, probably does nothing for them (I'd wager that you probably spend the the vast majority of the time getting "stuff for jobs that help the most" and relegating your BST/PUP/SMN loving "friends" to the back burner in terms of how you distribute loot, too, or they get the "scraps" that are left over). If they're willing to do so, the point is irrelevant. If someone despises playing other jobs and/or really likes their BST, or only has BST leveled, why not just let them come on it all the time?

So much bitterness. So you had some bad experiences with endgame shells, huh? Know some people that did? Or maybe you just feel like buying into the "Woe is us" complex? It doesn't really matter. My shell runs events fairly. Everyone gets the loot they earn, no matter what job it's for. You just make yourself look more and more stereotypically ignorant every time you post this rubbish. If so many people have similar problems, get better freaking shells.

No, they don't, and I'd say your attitude is more annoying. You've essentially stated that they can only really come when it *doesn't matter*, and when it actually does (or you think it does, anyway), you don't take them. Man, is that ever a great position to be in! "Well, there's no reason not to bring you today, Mrs. BST, so you can come. If it matters, though, to hell with you!" That's more of a reason to feel victimized than not because you're essentially being a fair-weather friend and will selfishly strip them of fun whenever it suits you. And yes, it IS more selfish for you to do that because the VAST majority of the time, them coming on BST won't hinder anyone, and probably still help to boot (some help is better than none).

I never said I don't take people. Where'd you get that from? Oh, unless those people simply sit out if they are asked to come non-Bst. But that's just childish of them. You seem to think events these days are things to be taken super cereals all the time. Hint: They're not. Dynamis? Got a black mage and a couple healy ish mages? Kay, everyone else do whatever the hell you want. Rinse and repeat for pretty much every level 75 event aside from AV. Get over yourself.

But I suppose that's the thing. They have to make the maximum sacrifice possible for you to be happy or they're not good "team members." Of course, in this case, you don't actually care how that member of your team feels, despite that they're still helping you either kill the monster faster, kill adds, hold it while people are down.

The goal is for everyone to be successful. That is not "my" goal. That is the goal of the group. Am I going to try and farm pop sets without Red procs? Hell no. Am I going to start fighting NMs with no one on a mage job? Hell no. Do I really care at all if a guy comes PUP or PLD once Procs and basic Healing are accounted for? Hell no. Oh and for the record, I spent years playing White Mage for my linkshell just so other people didn't have to because I'm not a brat. Get off your high horse.

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Ridiculous, but I suppose it is true that they should probably leave your LS because you'll be a jerk to them, but that's the entirety of the problem.

You assume I'm a jerk. Ask anyone who actually knows me from my server/linkshell. I'm a nice, laid back guy who generally lets people do whatever the hell they want as long as we don't wipefail at the end of the day. And yes, I still can't stand your attitude or the attitude of players who share it. Teamwork is not a bunch of people saying "Me Me Me" in unison. It's everyone saying "We We We". Sometimes, "We" needs a Warrior more than a Beastmaster. Get the hell over it.

[Cyranda]

Teamwork is not a bunch of people saying "Me Me Me" in unison. It's everyone saying "We We We".

It'd be good for you to remind yourself of that because you don't appear to be very cognizant of it, despite your high opinion of yourself; you say it, but the understanding doesn't appear to be there.

That you would consider it "petty" for someone to want to play a job she likes, or a "brat" for not wanting to come on a job she dislikes enough not to want to go in a game she plays for fun is absolutely ludicrous and DOES mark you as a jerk. A "laid back" guy wouldn't insist people do things he knows they don't like or even think about doing so to a hypothetical person because, quite frankly, that's just not what laid back people do. A high-strung, controlling person who thinks he or she is laid back might. Such a person might even crush the pearl of their fulltime BST, too, for having the audacity to want to play the job she leveled up for that purpose.

Teamwork is not just a bunch of people in unison shouting "We We We" with an objective to reach a certain goal at the expense of some of the people on the team. That's called work, with a generous helping of terrible leadership. Teamwork, especially in a game, is a bunch of people working to maximize each others' fun, and that means respecting people who can help, even if it's not at some theoretical maximum, rather than just arbitrarily trying to dump a sacrifice on them and calling it "selfish" when they don't accept it. That person who wants to come on BST (which can still help the group) because logging on to his WHM bores him to the point where he'd rather log off is not "petty" or "bratty" for wanting to enjoy playing the game. That's what the BST is offering the group. The team that insists that he do so, knowing full well that he doesn't like it is being bratty, controlling and ANYTHING but laid back. If that BST not coming on WHM meant the event not going, a "laid back" team that cared about its members (or even friends!) would realize they didn't have enough people and ALL make the sacrifice not to go or find a way to make it happen and bring that BST with them rather than trying to pin the blame on the guy and get angry enough to break his pearl. They'd realize they just didn't have the resources instead of trying to take the faux moral high road and try to force someone to do something they dislike or else kick/leave.

The goal is for everyone to be successful.

Oh, is THAT the goal? I always thought it was for everyone to be successful WHILE HAVING FUN, but then...

I spent years playing White Mage for my linkshell just so other people didn't have to because I'm not a brat.

I guess not, though really, you must not have disliked it very much or had fun in some other way, but that's not really the point. Even if it were, walking across a sheet of broken glass and then expecting other people to do so again speaks to how ludicrous that notion is (you know, because walking on broken glass sucks and no one should).