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  1. #51
    Player Zyeriis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akujima View Post
    Well Zyeriis. You are simply wrong.

    Because I should be allowed to "one shot" Shinryu. It's too time consuming to go farm cruor and get a primeval brew. So I think they should take out all these time consuming things and make the game easier.

    -100% PDT is a step in the right direction if you ask me. And -80% PDT like a suggestion that was made above is not enough.
    Wait, what?
    How am I wrong about detailing what I saw (an alliance that ended up with Lucky Lulush tanking Raja because the PLD and NIN died)?
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  2. #52
    Player Siviard's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zarabi View Post
    I don't have a pet job, but it sounds kinda interesting ,however even by searching i haven't found any info on this, so could someone tell me: What exactly do you need to actually get 100% pdt? o.o pwetty please tell the kitty cat? .-.
    Truth be told, it's not 100% PDT. It might just SEEM like that because most BSTs I know use Mounted Champion (for the REGEN), Razed Ruin (to help speed things up) and Atma of the Ducal Guard (the key ingredient)

    There are also pieces of gear (Anwig's Salade, Mirke Wardecors, Magian Axes) that can also have Pet: PDT+% augmented onto them for a cumulative effect. However, it doesn't quite come up to 100%, it's about 85% or so, but it might SEEM like it's 100% because whatever damage the pet is taking is being recovered by the REGEN from Atma of the Mounted Champion.

    To me it just sounds like the OP is /butthurt because an NM he/she wanted wasn't available, and is obviously so biased against pet jobs that he/she felt it necessary to make a post about it here. Like someone else mentioned earlier....why don't you make a thread about a NIN taking too long to solo something, or a DNC, or a RDM, or a BLU or a BLM? I've personally seen others taking a long time to kill various NMs that weren't BST. So stop being a hater and a troll, and get over it.
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    Pet jobs don't suffer from raise sickness anyway. We have never feared death. Not letting the pet owner die doesn't actually make us stronger.
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyeriis View Post
    Wait, what?
    How am I wrong about detailing what I saw (an alliance that ended up with Lucky Lulush tanking Raja because the PLD and NIN died)?
    Because any job should be able to "Tank". Also every Job should be able to heal themselves and not have to rely on a "Healer". That being said, I will be glad when they finally implement a vendor that sells every piece of equipment for 1~5 gil.


    (if you haven't already noticed, that post was total sarcasm and I agree that SE needs to fix pets being able to tank better than PLD's "should")
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    Last edited by Akujima; 05-12-2011 at 03:54 AM.
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    Player Zyeriis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akujima View Post
    Because any job should be able to "Tank". Also every Job should be able to heal themselves and not have to rely on a "Healer". That being said, I will be glad when they finally implement a vendor that sells every piece of equipment for 1~5 gil.


    (if you haven't already noticed, that post was total sarcasm and I agree that SE needs to fix pets being able to tank better than PLD's do)
    Eh, I wasn't actually taking a side. More of "smell the coffee" post. People complain that BSTs are soloing "their" stuff. I was giving an example where BST, in an alliance, saved the day and made the PLD/NIN/Healers look silly. It is obvious it needs a fix but, I doubt it'll ever happen: you know, unless people realize how truly broken it is and start exploiting it. Whining about people soloing "their" mobs isn't gonna do jack.
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    To the original poster.. jealous much? Sorry if you are too lazy to work on 100% PDT gears... Pet based jobs are a rare sight on Abysea, this is SE way to give us a little incentive to come and play. Solo is never a great alternative anyway vs these NMs, it takes too long and they would rage after awhile and gets harder and harder to kill. So stop being a complete retard and quit posting non-sensical subject.
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    I seem to only get "down with solo play" out of this post rather than the -pdt% in question. So im guessing back when sky was popular if your LS saw a bst soloing Despot or a rdm soloing Zipacna you would try your best to distract them to wipe or stand in their way or curebomb the bst that forgot to /blockaid. Not pointing fingers , just the feeling im getting out of this.
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    The amount of absolute crying and "Don't be hatin'" in this thread is hilarious.

    Ducal Guard has always been a wonky atma. Summoners got the nerfbat swung at them because they were rocking 100% PDT. Bst and Pup still have it, so either it was intentional and you have nothing to worry about or it wasn't and they'll fix it.

    Either way, no one really cares at all about "People not letting you come Bst to linkshell events". Really. I do not care. At all. When I run events in the shell I'm in, I either assign someone a job because they're needed on that job, or I tell them I don't give a crap what they come on. In the case of the former, people who bitch and moan and complain about "wanting to come BST", get a freaking pearlsmash because that sort of attitude sucks. In the case of the latter, I don't really care if people take the opportunity to come Pup/Bst/Smn/whatever, specifically because I said I don't give a crap.

    If your attitude and your shell's attitude don't sync, then fix it or leave. It's mind boggling to hear people bitching in this day and age about "Endgame Shells only let me do X, Y, and Z" when any group of like-minded friends with half an ounce of competence between them can do the majority of the game's content in under a party of 6.

    Edit: Of course, if all 6 of the aforementioned people are troglodytes that refuse to come anything but pup to everything every time, good luck proc'ing anything.
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    Last edited by Greatguardian; 05-12-2011 at 04:13 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyranda View Post
    On the balance, absolutely. I'd certainly prefer that than them losing the damage reduction and being forced to do things on other jobs they may not have or don't like playing. If they want to waste 60 minutes killing something with a low drop rate due to having no procs and whatnot, more power to them. With the very small number of people who actually do it and the only bother being the minor inconvenience to other players having to wait if they happen to come across the few monsters they solo this way, which is nothing compared to the inconvenience of them having to take the same amount of time and getting even less in return, yeah. Absolutely.

    The effect on the game is pretty much negligible, and given that people with brew can already essentially be invincible, the arguments against it are simply weak.
    Except a brew generally causes the monster to die relatively quick. Taking sixty minutes to kill a monster is inconsiderate in a zone where time is limited.

    Is the 100% PDT from gear and merit combinations? Or do all pets just have 100% PDT natively? I think a native PDT that high should be fixed. However, I see absolutely nothing wrong with a dedicated and well equipped pet job reaching such high numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siviard View Post
    Truth be told, it's not 100% PDT. It might just SEEM like that because most BSTs I know use Mounted Champion (for the REGEN), Razed Ruin (to help speed things up) and Atma of the Ducal Guard (the key ingredient)

    However, it doesn't quite come up to 100%, it's about 85% or so, but it might SEEM like it's 100% because whatever damage the pet is taking is being recovered by the REGEN from Atma of the Mounted Champion.
    Actually with time and effort you can get 100% Atma of Ducal Guard, Atma of Zenith is -60%. There's a head piece which is another -10%. This here is damage not just PDT but MDT too. Then you can quest two pdt axes use AF3 legs and a shepard's Chain. That I believe gives you -100% pdt and -78% mdt (I believe the bst legs are both types of damage).

    That being said as a Bst I don't see anything wrong with this. If their are others waiting for spawns I team up if we rotate spawns. I will hold nm for them while they proc mobs and things go faster. Also it still required some skill/knowledge to solo things thou not as much as before. Alot of nm's have hate resets or fast hate decay. Anything with magic chew's up your pet fast enough you typically ride reward timers. Quite a few nm's have Doom effects or petrify or anmesia which can make killing tricky to impossible.

    If you think us being able to solo a mob in 60 min's is unfair feel free to complain. But in my time playing this game both inside and outside of abyssea I have had my fair share of watching other jobs solo mobs taking just as much time. Like Rdm's DoT kiting. Thf Evasion tanking curing with bloody bolts and eventually /dnc. Nin's were a natural soloer even more so when /dnc came out. Maybe we should focus on all these jobs? Or better yet I've waited on Duo'd who couldn't proc and held mobs maybe SE could just spawn nm's with their weakness displayed in spawner's chat log?

    If you feel it's an unfair hack go level the job and take advantage before it is changed. :P
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