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    Understand why SMN alone got nerfed: SMN was able to reach -100% PDT with no gear, instantaneously, on a pet that was already near immune to one element. They were able to do it with a single Atma, using the other 2 for DD. For a few weeks, I walked Abyssea as a god.

    BST need multiple atma, lots of gear (including a pair of magian trial axes and mini-expansion hat), and still need to use food on a pet that can't be called out every 30 seconds like avatars. BST make tons of sacrifices to tank.

    Even at -87.5% pdt, SMN tank better than BST in several scenarios. That doesn't mean that BST can't find their niche. The OP was stuck behind a niche fight. Had the OP the slightest interest in a solution, he would have invited the BST into his alliance, killed the NM for him, and let the BST keep what he wanted. 60 minutes drops to 5 minutes, and hours of complaining on forums would disappear.

    Sincerly,
    The first -100pdt'er
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akujima View Post
    People are going to have to further accept, that they can't be supreme and almighty. "Solo" is escaping inevitability: There will always be other people, and you're going to have to interact with them. -100% PDT or -100% MDT or -100% whatever... It makes no difference.
    Well darn, Mr. Hyperbole, if only it were the BSTs and PUPs and, sometimes, SMNs, and recently PLD and RNG, wanting to solo causing the issues as opposed to people not wanting to do things WITH those jobs, you might have a better point. It's not their anti-social traits or "wanting to be almighty" causing the problem.
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    What game were you playing Aku. Blm was one of the best solo jobs. For alot of mission didn't even need a tank. Ever seen what 1O+ blms could do to DM, word i'm think best suit it would insta win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyranda View Post
    Well darn, Mr. Hyperbole, if only it were the BSTs and PUPs and, sometimes, SMNs, and recently PLD and RNG, wanting to solo causing the issues as opposed to people not wanting to do things WITH those jobs, you might have a better point. It's not their anti-social traits or "wanting to be almighty" causing the problem.
    SHHH you'll ruin the anti solo play straw man


    I'm just waiting to laugh at arguments against solos that use kiting instead of pets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyranda View Post
    I guess enough people might be that petty, but meh. I don't think it happens enough for the entire community, or even a large part of it, to feel that way. I think, rather, that it's really just a minor nuisance being blown way out of proportion.
    idk, my friend talking to do it, and so is probably 10,000 player after reading this post....

    Invincible in abyssea, hey who not interest in this? Seriously, i can already see all LS with they BST and 100% PDT otw right now.


    Go go new setup: BST, BLM/BRD, BLU, WAR/RDM FTW. (can self cleave, trigger everything, and tank everything)

    {Broken game do you need it?}
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    Last edited by Ilax; 05-11-2011 at 06:51 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dallas View Post
    Understand why SMN alone got nerfed: SMN was able to reach -100% PDT with no gear, instantaneously, on a pet that was already near immune to one element. They were able to do it with a single Atma, using the other 2 for DD. For a few weeks, I walked Abyssea as a god.

    BST need multiple atma, lots of gear (including a pair of magian trial axes and mini-expansion hat), and still need to use food on a pet that can't be called out every 30 seconds like avatars. BST make tons of sacrifices to tank.

    Even at -87.5% pdt, SMN tank better than BST in several scenarios. That doesn't mean that BST can't find their niche. The OP was stuck behind a niche fight. Had the OP the slightest interest in a solution, he would have invited the BST into his alliance, killed the NM for him, and let the BST keep what he wanted. 60 minutes drops to 5 minutes, and hours of complaining on forums would disappear.

    Sincerly,
    The first -100pdt'er
    It's apparently much more important for people to rage about their minor inconveniences than it is be nice to people (by, say offering an invite and alliance lead/quartermaster). Though I bet someone argues that the rare job that actually solos with -100% PDT will just not accept the invite and be a jerk. Because the 3 BSTs of the 58 online at the time are all going to always say no, no matter what
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyranda View Post
    Well darn, Mr. Hyperbole, if only it were the BSTs and PUPs and, sometimes, SMNs, and recently PLD and RNG, wanting to solo causing the issues as opposed to people not wanting to do things WITH those jobs, you might have a better point. It's not their anti-social traits or "wanting to be almighty" causing the problem.
    Look. Just take FFXI offline, and we can "tweet" to eachother in game about what we're doing.

    You know how many problems that would solve?
    No competition, No having to "wait" for someone to finish killing their NM, No having to compete for what's being dropped. Solves alot of the major problems that many people are having, if you ask me.
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    悪島 Where the spirit of the moon resides... 気 愛 月光

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilax View Post
    idk, my friend talking to do it, and so is probably 10,000 player after reading this post....

    Invincible in abyssea, hey who not interest in this? Seriously, i can already see all LS with they BST and 100% PDT otw right now.


    Go go new setup: BST, BLM/BRD, BLU, WAR/RDM FTW. (can self cleave, trigger everything, and tank everything)

    {Broken game do you need it?}
    They've been able to do it for quite a long time now, and it hasn't caught on much at all. I really don't think it's going to spread like wildfire if it hasn't already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenmore View Post
    What game were you playing Aku. Blm was one of the best solo jobs. For alot of mission didn't even need a tank. Ever seen what 1O+ blms could do to DM, word i'm think best suit it would insta win.

    10+ BLM = Solo, how?

    And...

    Actually "Instant Win" is 2 words. Oh, sorry I'm just pointing out your little mistake. Hope you're not upset.
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    Np shoulda seen that and put solo in a differnt paragraph shouldn't assume that you had any idea how good blm was at soloing. I mean how esle did they get 75. The 10+blms was to show that you didn't need a tank or pulling hate was a bad thing only crappy blms got killed in a couple of hits. The game used to be throw as any blms at a mob that you could find. Just to add little more blm/rdm got a good bit of survival tools.
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    Last edited by Ravenmore; 05-11-2011 at 07:10 PM.

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