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    Player svengalis's Avatar
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    urthdigger and seriah hit the nail on the head. Even with forced spawns in abyssea it can be a headache cause you may run into some *** who thinks just because they kill faster then you that they can pop all their pops b4 yours even though you were there b4 them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by svengalis View Post
    urthdigger and seriah hit the nail on the head. Even with forced spawns in abyssea it can be a headache cause you may run into some *** who thinks just because they kill faster then you that they can pop all their pops b4 yours even though you were there b4 them.
    Why not let them? I mean, they can kill faster than you can, by letting them finish first, that means you can pop yours all by yourself without having to worry about them "stealing" your pop.

    Also, it comes down to who's time is worth more. Yours or Theirs? To you, your time is worth more, but to everyone else, their time is worth more. Accept the fact that you won't be able to do everything you want to do that day, and do something else.
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  3. #33
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    As I mentioned before, I had to deal with someone who was at Gukumatz all fricken day. No idea what he was after, but whatever it was must have had a piss poor drop rate. Also... they don't claim because they feel they can kill faster... they just claim. If they killed the mob quickly I wouldn't have as much a problem with it, but you've got people who grab claim, and then spend half an hour chiseling down its HP.
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    He once sold his soul to Promathia for a rare drop. He later won it back in a drinking contest, before beating up the twilight god for good measure.
    He's won dance-off trophies from the Republic of Bastok, the Duchy of Jeuno, and the Yagudo Theomilitary.
    He's won entire arguments with a single leer.
    He is the most interesting galka in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Urthdigger View Post
    As I mentioned before, I had to deal with someone who was at Gukumatz all fricken day. No idea what he was after, but whatever it was must have had a piss poor drop rate. Also... they don't claim because they feel they can kill faster... they just claim. If they killed the mob quickly I wouldn't have as much a problem with it, but you've got people who grab claim, and then spend half an hour chiseling down its HP.
    So then why don't you ask them if you can help them proc red !! and kill it with them?

    Just a suggestion.
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    This thread is pointless.. Didn't I just post a reply similar to this thread?
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    1. True Gamers plays to have fun.
    2. True Gamers don't play to waste time.
    3. True Gamers Aren't wasting time if they enjoy the contents they play while progressing.
    4. Gamers Love to see progression based on time/effort they put into challenges.
    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
    6. Gamers don't play for Time Sink Elements, and Don't want A game to be a Chore!
    All Gamers Unite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arlan View Post
    This thread is pointless.. Didn't I just post a reply similar to this thread?
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    The guy made 4 threads so far. This is thread number 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    The guy made 4 threads so far. This is thread number 3.
    Well damn...
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    1. True Gamers plays to have fun.
    2. True Gamers don't play to waste time.
    3. True Gamers Aren't wasting time if they enjoy the contents they play while progressing.
    4. Gamers Love to see progression based on time/effort they put into challenges.
    5. Gamers plays for challenging Elements, and Wants more Enjoyable contents.
    6. Gamers don't play for Time Sink Elements, and Don't want A game to be a Chore!
    All Gamers Unite!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Korpg View Post
    Why not let them? I mean, they can kill faster than you can, by letting them finish first, that means you can pop yours all by yourself without having to worry about them "stealing" your pop.

    Also, it comes down to who's time is worth more. Yours or Theirs? To you, your time is worth more, but to everyone else, their time is worth more. Accept the fact that you won't be able to do everything you want to do that day, and do something else.
    It's a little thing called manners. Do you cut to the front of a long line at a grocery store because you're in a hurry? I doubt it. Maybe someone will let you go ahead of them if they see you only have a couple items to their cart, but that's their choice.

    The big problem with just "Suck it up!" is rolling over for these jerks can mean the help you have available at that moment might not be 10 minutes later, or more depending on how long this group decides to monopolize. From there, there's no guarantee that yet another bunch would show up and do exactly the same thing. I've been the victim of this behavior. I've left pick-up parties where people insist on doing it. I hate wasting my time as much as the next person, but I'm having a hard time totally faulting people here as this behavior is a direct result of the game's design.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriha View Post
    It's a little thing called manners. Do you cut to the front of a long line at a grocery store because you're in a hurry? I doubt it. Maybe someone will let you go ahead of them if they see you only have a couple items to their cart, but that's their choice.

    The big problem with just "Suck it up!" is rolling over for these jerks can mean the help you have available at that moment might not be 10 minutes later, or more depending on how long this group decides to monopolize. From there, there's no guarantee that yet another bunch would show up and do exactly the same thing. I've been the victim of this behavior. I've left pick-up parties where people insist on doing it. I hate wasting my time as much as the next person, but I'm having a hard time totally faulting people here as this behavior is a direct result of the game's design.

    ...Get out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seriha View Post
    It's a little thing called manners. Do you cut to the front of a long line at a grocery store because you're in a hurry? I doubt it. Maybe someone will let you go ahead of them if they see you only have a couple items to their cart, but that's their choice.

    The big problem with just "Suck it up!" is rolling over for these jerks can mean the help you have available at that moment might not be 10 minutes later, or more depending on how long this group decides to monopolize. From there, there's no guarantee that yet another bunch would show up and do exactly the same thing. I've been the victim of this behavior. I've left pick-up parties where people insist on doing it. I hate wasting my time as much as the next person, but I'm having a hard time totally faulting people here as this behavior is a direct result of the game's design.
    Throw animosity into the picture and manners get thrown out of the window. Since everyone online have absolutely no risk of persecution of their personal lives, and making a new alter-ego for online personalities is as easy as setting up a new email address, nobody is going to adhere to common decency, and who's to blame them?

    Make it possible that you can get punched in the mouth through the computer screen and you will find people acting like human beings overnight.

    As for the time factor, think of it this way. If you get to pop your item, that means that the other group can't pop their item. You are satisfied, but what about those other people?

    And does that stop you from teaming up for the same thing? 2 groups forming into one leads to faster kills. I have done that with other groups many times. Its the people who don't want to cooperate that you have to deal with. Is it SE's fault that they decide to act like jerks? Should SE ban them for acting like jerks? That is what this issue comes down to, SE should punish everyone who doesn't work with everyone else. Which means, everyone.
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