Limit Breaks Too Hard to gather party?

[RAIST]

Um.... did I miss an update notice where they somehow made these mobs harder?

Point is... they are no harder to fight now then they were x number of years ago when we all had to do them ourselves. We had to pull from our pool of friends then , jsut as they need to now. Granted, there are fewer people playing now then there were even just a couple years agao--but chances are, they know SOMEONE with a job high enough to help them out.

A lot of the initial limit break stuff takes place in places you may already be xp'ing in at the level you log the quests--just might want some higher level help to make them EASIER, but they are not exactly impossible to complete if you are at the cap when you do them. Gotta remember, these were originally done py players AT THE CAPS when they were introduced. Granted, they may have formed alliances for some of it (again, to make it easier)--but it isn't necessarily required to do so.

Edit:
GK1 (cap raised from 50 to 55) items drop from level 51-55 mobs (can be farmed in 6 man level 50 party)

GK2 (cap raised from 55 to 60) requires you to kill 3 level 58 NM's. This may be a bit rough with a level 55 6 man party, but it is not undoable--the more the merrier on this one (unless you have high level help--these were soloable at 75 SMN in the past, I would imagine they are a breeze now for most any job at 90).

GK3 (cap from 60-65)can be soloed for the most part--granted, getting through Oz solo is a problem, but you only really need one other body opening the brass door if you don't have speed enhancement. You may also have to do the death run thing because of True Sigt/True Hearing mobs--but it can be soloed/duoed.

GK4 (cap from 65-70) is just running around towns trading seals to NPC's

GK5 to get to 75 cap is Maat Solo--farming the testy will require some help, as the mobs that drop them are a bit rough to solo--but the fight itself is a solo fight.

[Krisan]

I seem to recall these limit breaks requiring alliances to complete, RAIST. You're simply not going to find an alliance of people at the appropriate level ranges anymore to do these, and I suspect while it might be possible to tackle these in singular groups now, it wouldn't be very easy at all. Keep in mind also that even if you can find a group in your level range, it's unlikely you're going to find five other new characters\players that need it when you do. (Everyone else in their level range probably would have done it years ago like we ourselves have, and as such aren't inclined to do it again.)

Furthermore if you have to rely on a level 75+ player to come out and help you, the content in question is pointless. (Having a high level player finish it for you completely eliminates the challenge as it is.)

[RAIST]

Nope... I did my NM fights in a 6 man party when I did mine ages ago. Granted, I had some 75 help for mine. But I did go and solo them for an LS mate with my SMN at 75. I also remember going on papy farming runs at 62 BLM in 6 man parties as well--set up skillup runs along with it, and skilled up my staff on BLM.

Furthermore if you have to rely on a level 75+ player to come out and help you, the content in question is pointless. (Having a high level player finish it for you completely eliminates the challenge as it is.)

by that mentality, anything requiring experienced help (COP, ZM, TAU, WOTG, the list goes on) would need to be adjusted too.

The point is, these were already designed to be done at the level ranges when you unlock them (read my edit to the earlier post). Having more players or higher level help just makes them easier to do them is all.

[Eeek]

Limit Breaks are only hard for people without friends. And what in the hell is the point of playing an MMO without meeting people and making friends along the way?

If certain players just cannot find a way to complete Limit Breaks now, it's probably for the best. The rest of the game will just frustrate the bejesus out of them.

[Eeek]

by that mentality, anything requiring experienced help (COP, ZM, TAU, WOTG, the list goes on) would need to be adjusted too.

And to follow this line of thought to the end, FFXI should award players whatever jobs and equipment they'd like while reducing the entirety of the game's story content down to a single menu, accessible from a moogle outside every Mog House exit, for every cutscene in the game.

FFXI: Barbie and a Movie.

[Crawlerbasher]

I've always helped others with there LB quests.
I actually love doing them

[Akujima]

Limit Breaks are only hard for people without friends. And what in the hell is the point of playing an MMO without meeting people and making friends along the way?

If certain players just cannot find a way to complete Limit Breaks now, it's probably for the best. The rest of the game will just frustrate the bejesus out of them.

Uhh, Actually there's a difference between befriending someone, and being an annoyance to that person because they might think were only "friends" because they want you to help them with a bunch of outdated quests.

Having a friendship on an equal level, matters too. Personally I dislike having to "befriend" someone just so that they can do things for me easily. I would rather find equal level friends and complete a fun mission with them. But since Vana'diel is short on those low level buddies, Limit Break is no longer challenging, but rather frustrating.

And for the poster who mentioned CoP should also get adjusted, it did. They removed the cap on CoP missions, and what did that do?

New player about to ding Lv30~ -> /check's high level player... "Oh shit, Rajas ring is sweet!... Where do I get that!?..."

New player checks FFXI Wiki -> "Oh dang... I gatta tell my high level friends to run me through CoP now!"

[Eeek]

Uhh, Actually there's a difference between befriending someone, and being an annoyance to that person because they might think were only "friends" because they want you to help them with a bunch of outdated quests.

Having a friendship on an equal level, matters too. Personally I dislike having to "befriend" someone just so that they can do things for me easily. I would rather find equal level friends and complete a fun mission with them. But since Vana'diel is short on those low level buddies, Limit Break is no longer challenging, but rather frustrating.

And for the poster who mentioned CoP should also get adjusted, it did. They removed the cap on CoP missions, and what did that do?

New player about to ding Lv30~ -> /check's high level player... "Oh shit, Rajas ring is sweet!... Where do I get that!?..."

New player checks FFXI Wiki -> "Oh dang... I gatta tell my high level friends to run me through CoP now!"

What you're describing is more of a business relationship than an actual friendship. And maybe your own sense of inadequacy?

[Akujima]

And to follow this line of thought to the end, FFXI should award players whatever jobs and equipment they'd like while reducing the entirety of the game's story content down to a single menu, accessible from a moogle outside every Mog House exit, for every cutscene in the game.

FFXI: Barbie and a Movie.

And to follow this line of thought EVEN further.

We should all just double click the login icon, and a big screen pops up saying... "YOU WON THE GAME"

[Akujima]

What you're describing is more of a business relationship than an actual friendship.

Yes I did describe a business relationship. But replying to your post seems like you took it as a personal attack, therefore responding with your own insult towards me.

But if you would slow down a little and read carefully, you would understand that the last part is exaggerated sarcasm.