Weapom Skill Adjustments: What we have and what we need

[Jar]

yeah 7hit outside isnt to bad the low delay makes it about as fast as 6hiting a scythe

[vedder]

yea im with dart 7hit it outside and maybe 6hit it or hope for DA/TA procs inside ive looked at everything i think i could and im pretty sure 7hit is gonna give better results considering sacrifices to 6hit

perhaps the next version update will introduce gear that allows us to 6hit it with capped haste, who knows

[Kagato]

btw, friend of mine has Redemption. He's well geared and all that knows the math. but quietus is so bad that 1 week after getting it he started on caladbolg lmao <_<

That's a shame, but I think it might see an update much like other Weapon Skills.

Also, I misread the wiki entry as a triple-attack. It's actually triple-damage so that means it's a single-hit.

But you said you get it without carbonara. I'll probably just pick up a tactical mantle for outside abyssea so I can eat a red curry bun, but inside abyssea I'd rather just stay with Atheling and eat a carbonara since reaching caps is too easy inside of there. I'm just not in any real rush.

Ultimately the big kicker is whether or not Souleater will be a full-time ability or not. If it is, I don't care how much -ATK gear I'd have on in order to gain STP.

And besides, I'll certainly know what to do once I obtain the thing. Right now is just speculation. There's only one or two DRKs on my server with Redemption and they're japanese, so consulting them is...well, lol.

[Jar]

That's a shame, but I think it might see an update much like other Weapon Skills.

Also, I misread the wiki entry as a triple-attack. It's actually triple-damage so that means it's a single-hit.

But you said you get it without carbonara. I'll probably just pick up a tactical mantle for outside abyssea so I can eat a red curry bun, but inside abyssea I'd rather just stay with Atheling and eat a carbonara since reaching caps is too easy inside of there. I'm just not in any real rush.

Ultimately the big kicker is whether or not Souleater will be a full-time ability or not. If it is, I don't care how much -ATK gear I'd have on in order to gain STP.

And besides, I'll certainly know what to do once I obtain the thing. Right now is just speculation. There's only one or two DRKs on my server with Redemption and they're japanese, so consulting them is...well, lol.

Looking at this You have NEVER capped attack inside abyssea or even tried too. it is not at all easy to cap attack.

[Gradd]

On anything that matters your not hitting the attack cap even inside of abyssea, on higher Tier NMs even with last Resort I really notice the huge difference in lack of damage with torcleaver because obviously I am not hitting the attack cap.

999 does not = Capped attack, people knew this at 75. Attack actually goes higher than 999, its just that 999 is all that we can see. Ps2 Limitations!

After I 85 my Almace this week im going to actually build redemption just to have it, my scythes sitting at the chloris stage. Friend of mine has the Fake Empyrean/Quietus Scythe the WS really is not all that great :/

[Kagato]

Ah, well perhaps the Redemption itself will make up for it. I've noticed that a lot of people who say the scythe and WS suck are usually basing it off the WoE/Fake version.

Personally, I don't care that much for Quietus anyway. I'm more in it for the weapon itself. Insurgency is really the scythe Weapon Skill that I like, but wish was better. Since I misread that quietus is triple damage and not triple-attack, that opinion is even more solidified than ever. I wouldn't be surprised if I still use Guillotine with Redemption.

Regardless, there are options. One way or another, the amount of Store TP needed needs to be met. I'll just say "the hell with it" and get everything and just test combinations myself. Personal experience and trustworthy sources are leagues better than hearsay and speculation. So yeah, I'll take the time and get the mantle and I'll still get everything else. Worst case scenerio is I sell some items back on the AH. Oh noes. :|

Anyway, appreciate talking with you, Dart. I just don't want this to turn into a topic about Redemption builds so I wanna cut the conversation here.

[Dart]

we do tend to get sidetracked don't we? Totally jar's fault /jarsignal

[Gradd]

Liberator goooooooooooooooooooooo, I know Kirschy likes hers alot, in my opinion its the strongest scythe at the moment, hoping SE makes Mythics easier to obtain I would love to build one.

[Jar]

we do tend to get sidetracked don't we? Totally jar's fault /jarsignal

If kagato Stoped barfing stupid i wouldn't have to correct him lol

[Kagato]

Liberator goooooooooooooooooooooo, I know Kirschy likes hers alot, in my opinion its the strongest scythe at the moment, hoping SE makes Mythics easier to obtain I would love to build one.

Seriously? This is the first time I've heard anyone bring it up positively.