Balance out Empyrean Weapon Magian Trials

[Byrth]

Any luck on the duel wielding Twashtar front?

I've determined that it'll at least warn me if I can't have two. I'm on the VNM trials right now with 42/50 Glavoid shells and 5 unpopped sets, so I need at most three more and probably less.

Also, regardless of my whinery in the previous post, it's possible to kill Glavoid with two Aeolian Edges and a Detonation skillchain before he even tries to cast. It's really freaking close though, and easy to mess up.

[Alhanelem]

Considering the Staff WS itself is way worse than any others, and it being difficult to make, it is just another Claustrum. SE never did figure out how mage jobs works. It would seem they only play PLD, WAR and SAM.

What's bad about the staff ws? huge MP restore and cure status effects? It's a nice thing to have, it's just not for killing things. And the weapon boosts the WS' mod, like every other weapon, by a substantial amount. If you want perp - (which isn't really even needed on a weapon anymore) or MAB or whatever, then it's not the staff for you. If you are, like a select few, interested in a stronger weapon and/or a handy weaponskill that's especially great for when you don't want to touch the mob but you have TP to burn (very common in abyssea), it's great to have.

[blowfin]

Chloris is a total joke compared to Glavoid, and Bukhis is pretty easy to multi-brew. It isn't like he absorbs damage and potentially goes immune to magic.

Bukhis isn't that hard normally either, it's all relative though I guess when people are able to duo other trial NM's. People just freak out about doom and losing their buffs.

With regard to the weapons I think it's balanced pretty well when you look at the big picture and the 3 Abyssea trials. Gun/GK/GS are way easier than most though, maybe we'll never know why they balanced it that way. It's not like the jobs that utilize those weapons got much love in Abyss in many other areas though.

Empyrean weapon (and relics) are unlikely to become the next best weapons. They are considered THE reward (with the AF3) of abyssea. It doesn't make sense to keep them going on after abyssea and after the next level caps. If the next great weapon doesn't come from a new endgame it would also kill said endgame activities seing as we are completely unlikely to see exceptionnal boosts on gear ( see : haste, attack, str all capping, easily and since forever, acc being useless since pizza exists).

I'd be completely dumbfounded if they stopped empy trials at 90. Mainly because it would be a completely idiotic thing for them to do.

[MarkovChain]

I've determined that it'll at least warn me if I can't have two. I'm on the VNM trials right now with 42/50 Glavoid shells and 5 unpopped sets, so I need at most three more and probably less.

Also, regardless of my whinery in the previous post, it's possible to kill Glavoid with two Aeolian Edges and a Detonation skillchain before he even tries to cast. It's really freaking close though, and easy to mess up.

have your THF open with cyclone > cataclysm, win ? I'm not a brew specialist but this takes 70% of dragua's HP and beat self SC from aeolian edge.

[Kimble]

Why would you need to do that if you can just do two edges and kill it?

[Miera]

I agree with you and my LS members talk about it all the time. Glavoid is a pain in the butt to get, he's fairly easy to kill now that we have a few Emp. Weapons in the shell but actually getting his KIs are rediculous. I think the NMs in Tahrongi Canyon for Emp. Needs their POPs to be fixed. This is rediculous especially everyone wants Great Axe, H2H, Dagger, and Polearm.

I am working on my Bow at the moment, Fistule is a no brainer just the fact that you cannot stack his items right now is killing me, however Buhkis is my main concern for i cannot solo him like I can Fistule.

Is there any way we can take down Buhkis without throwing pets on it?

[macbain]

My brother just finished Buhkis solo on dnc, doing 4 pops per brew using Aeolian Edge.

[JiltedValkyrie]

I've tanked Bukhis on BRD/NIN (DD setup) so don't gimme the whole spiel about that NM being too hard. (no brew)

[Suirieko]

Chloris isn't as hard as Bukhis because it can't dispel your cruor buffs like Bukhis can.

It's not a matter of how difficult it is to FIGHT Chloris, it's a matter of how annoying it is to pop it.

You have to fight 8 NMs to get the key items:

Chukwa

Vetehinen -> Ophanim
Halimede -> ^
Also, have bloodshot hecteye as well.

Gacanagah -> Hedetet
also, have venomous scorpion stinger as well.

Cannered Noz -> Treble Noctules
also, have bloodied bat fang.

And yes, I know I know FC works too, but if you think about it, it COULD take longer since this is ultimately a matter of luck. You could be getting 10 Mossy Adamantoise shell til you finally see a Veinous Eyelid.

Difficult? No.

Annoying and time consuming? Yes, especially if you compare it to all the other empyreans.

[blowfin]

Is there any way we can take down Buhkis without throwing pets on it?

Without brewing blink tanking works pretty well, NIN is probably one of the better jobs. Removing HP down quickly is important if people do happen to get hit by TP moves. You also want holy water for removing doom, you can't block that one with shadows.

I've tanked Bukhis on BRD/NIN (DD setup) so don't gimme the whole spiel about that NM being too hard. (no brew)

If people have plenty of cruor and don't need drops from the NM where is the problem with brewing it?